Thread: The Real (Easy) Way To WILD

I've actually just thought of something this morning that might make a difference. Rather than just control your thoughts, try to be a bit more aware of you body. At least, do so when you are very relaxed and are starting to feel a bit numb from lying still. Try to notice how heavy it feels, what mild sensations are there. This should also help with inducing heaviness.

I haven't tried it out yet, it's just a hunch. I'll edit the main post if it proves helpful. Feel free to try it out if your timezone is ahead of mine.

Originally Posted by Sean999

Passive Awareness is used as a form of dream control. It, along with Forced Control, is explained in BillyBob's thread here.

I think it has nothing to do with WILD'ing, but if I'm wrong, someone feel free to correct me. Hope that clears it up.

Well you said in order to WILD one should Try to "Just Fall asleep" (Passive) while remaining some level of consciousness (awareness). So in order not to fall asleep unconscious and, also, not to keep your self awake you should remain Conscious in a Passive way.

I just wouldn't have a Clue of how exactly to do that. I have found it pretty much impossible to "Quiet my Mind", to stay "Detatched from my thoughts and not get carried along in them" or to remain consciously aware of them. Any tips?

I don't know where you're getting all this "Passive Awareness" stuff from. It has nothing to do with this technique. You're just over-complicating things.

Have you ever just sat there, day dreaming? It's pretty much like that. Just have some control over your thoughts, and you should enter SP soon enough.

Has this worked every night?
What's YOUR progress?

Originally Posted by Sean999

I don't know where you're getting all this "Passive Awareness" stuff from. It has nothing to do with this technique. You're just over-complicating things.

Have you ever just sat there, day dreaming? It's pretty much like that. Just have some control over your thoughts, and you should enter SP soon enough.

Hi. Do you really think its complicating things? maybe he is just trying to name the process, which is inbehind. I know, your technique works, becouse it is so simple and we were discussing it in chat, but trying to find why is the goal on its own. SKA is one of the very few asking questions and trying to make some kind of model above sensations we percieve, so when he talks about Passive awareness, i would think about it a little.

Actually. The simplicity of your method is a two edge sword. Easy to memmorize, but harder to perform and actually understand. We should find out why this works for you? Not only how... Becouse to use techniques we need more then just the process itself.

Each technique is just a transformation from one state of mind into another. Maybe you could describe the state of mind you was in, when starting to perform the technique and also something about yourself, what you think is important....

Without this information we cannot apply your technique correctly (And it will be just trial and error for most of us). YOu should work on your technique a little bit more and should have significant anmount of results to post it here, becouse with writing it here on this forums, you have the responsibility for other people, from which majority is pretty young and unexperienced and take things for granted.

But.... I like, how you expressed another view on WILD, you described it as easy.. And actually. Thats the thing people here need to hear. So counting plusses and minuses of this thread. I would say you didnt do wrong.

Enjoyed reading. And hope we will chat further, to discuss the aspects of your technique.

What is with you guys and waking up after 5hrs? No one wants to ruin their sleep pattern by waking up in the middle/end of their sleep. Some may not be able to go back to sleep either, much like myself. I think it is a great method, because we are all different in the way we sleep. However for myself, I haven't seen a WILD tech yet where you didn't actually have to wake after ??. This kind of dissapoints me, but none the less I respect your method. So don't get me wrong when I wrote this, good work mate.

Originally Posted by Barefooted Student

What is with you guys and waking up after 5hrs? No one wants to ruin their sleep pattern by waking up in the middle/end of their sleep. Some may not be able to go back to sleep either, much like myself. I think it is a great method, because we are all different in the way we sleep. However for myself, I haven't seen a WILD tech yet where you didn't actually have to wake after ??. This kind of dissapoints me, but none the less I respect your method. So don't get me wrong when I wrote this, good work mate.

The reason we wake up after about five hours is because it makes induction much easier. It is known as WBTB (Wake Back to Bed). Some people can WILD before going to bed, but it is much harder. The pay off is not worth it either. The LD would be short and not as clear.

Also, after about five hours of sleep, your REM periods are much longer, allowing you to have longer, clearer LD's. In the beginning of the night, they are short.

Personally, I WBTB every night, and it doesn't affect me much, if at all.

Giving this a third shot.

6) There comes a point where you suddenly feel very light. You want the opposite to happen. At this point, you want to induce heaviness. Once you do, you should enter SP almost instantly (at least, that's what happens to me).

your answer

To help yourself induce the feeling of heaviness, imagine sand bags (or other heavy objects) are being tied to your joints. This should make it easier to induce the heaviness and speed up the process.

I never knew about this I will give this a shot for a week. are there any more ways to induce heaviness? at this point should you move your concentration from breathing now to the legs?

Originally Posted by Soldier

I never knew about this I will give this a shot for a week. are there any more ways to induce heaviness? at this point should you move your concentration from breathing now to the legs?

There are probably lots of ways to induce heaviness. Try to come up with your own, you'd probably find it easier with your own preferences. Here are some ideas:

• Imagine that you are so heavy that you start sinking into your bed. Visualize the sheets stretching.
• Imagine you are on a much bigger planet with a lot more gravity.
• Imagine yourself falling.

I've actually changed my process a bit. I don't need to induce heaviness or anything anymore. I guess it just gets easier after a few successes. I just enter SP quite easily and with little effort. Then I enter the dream.

However, I still sometimes have trouble with concentration. My mind is easily influenced by movies, books, etc. And sometimes I just can't take my mind off them. So I'm still a newbie in that aspect .

Please, continue to post your experiences! We can all learn from each other.

Thanks for the WILD technique, it soulds a lot easier than trying in the morning sleeping in or going to sleep. I should have thought of this too but it escaped my thoughts as well!

How ca you make sure it isn't disruptive to your sleep pattern though? I'd use an alarm clock obviously and I can't know what stage of sleep I'll be in when it wakes me up. Does it matter?

I will try this technique

By doing WBTB a person has rested enough to stay awake, but is still tired enough to go to sleep. If a person tries to WILD when going to bed at night, they are often to tired and just fall asleep. If they try to WILD for an afternoon nap, then they are too awake. This is just generally speaking of course.

Originally Posted by Barefooted Student

What is with you guys and waking up after 5hrs? No one wants to ruin their sleep pattern by waking up in the middle/end of their sleep. Some may not be able to go back to sleep either, much like myself. I think it is a great method, because we are all different in the way we sleep. However for myself, I haven't seen a WILD tech yet where you didn't actually have to wake after ??. This kind of dissapoints me, but none the less I respect your method. So don't get me wrong when I wrote this, good work mate.

Originally Posted by Sean999

There comes a point where you suddenly feel very light. You want the opposite to happen. At this point, you want to induce heaviness.

so sean999, what exactly do u do when u want to induce heaviness? i dont think my technique is really workin anymore

If I fall asleep to quickly (before lightness feeling) what do you suggest? I dont really want to stay up longer because then I just dont get back to sleep. Normally I will be up for about 10min

Originally Posted by LittleBuddy

so sean999, what exactly do u do when u want to induce heaviness? i dont think my technique is really workin anymore

I actually don't induce heaviness anymore. The vibrations start almost without warning. But, what I used to do to induce heaviness was simply imagine myself sinking or falling into my bed. Try imagining heavy objects are being tied to your major joints (knees, ankles, elbows, etc). If inducing heaviness just doesn't work, try forgetting about your body and just concentrate on whatever's on your mind.

Originally Posted by 2Fruits

If I fall asleep to quickly (before lightness feeling) what do you suggest? I dont really want to stay up longer because then I just dont get back to sleep. Normally I will be up for about 10min

When you are ready to lay back down in bed, try doing some mental tasks. Maybe do some Math problems, or try remembering your previous day. What I do is imagine myself singing some of my favourite songs.

Sorry for the lack of replies, I actually took a three-week break from LD'ing. Now I'm back. Just need to get my recall back up.

Originally Posted by Sean999

[*]There comes a point where you suddenly feel very light. You want the opposite to happen. At this point, you want to induce heaviness. Once you do, you should enter SP almost instantly (at least, that's what happens to me).
Comments?

How do you do that?

My second Helpful Tipe explains one technique that helps. I think the best thing for you is create your own way of inducing heaviness.

How I would describe now, however, is the feeling of general movement. When I'm about to enter SP, I feel like I suddenly fly straight up, then back down. Then the movements are random after that. I don't have to put any effort into entering SP, it just happens.

I've just been trying to do a WILD and i did feel weightless at some point!!
I was wondering why it wasn't working and i got bored and gave up

Next time i'm gonna try imagining being heavy when that comes

I think i was concentrating too hard too, after reading the other guides i was trying my hardest to block out any thoughts other than counted and it really didnt help.

I was facing straight up too which isn't how i normally sleep so i'm gonna try sleeping on my side


I' m a little disappointed but after reading everyones posts i doubt anyone got it first time
guess i'll try again tomorrow

Hey guys I'm new to this forum. I have been lucid dreaming for about two weeks and have already had three LD's with the MILD technique , but I want to try WILD. Even without keeping my mind conscious I have felt the vibrations, and lightness of my body. The one question I have is, how can you tell when you transition from SP to the dream?

I did WILD during a nap I took this afternoon, and my body felt very light and I imagined it getting very heavy. Within minutes I felt like I was spinning uncontrollably in my bed, but after about a minute of that nothing happened and I became fully conscious Did a RC and I was not dreaming. After that I couldnt get the SP back. Could this be due to there wasn't total darkness in my room? What am I supposed to do when I start feeling like im spinning/flying?

Unless it bothers you to have any light at all, it's fine if the room isn't perfectly dark. Just whatever works for you.

As for entering the dream, you were on the right track. It's possible of that you didn't have the right balance of mind awake/body asleep. I suggest you continue trying, and find the right balance. It might take many tries, but it's definitely worth it.

Welcome to Dream Views!

Alright thank you! I will keep trying this along with MILD on other nights. I'm glad to be here

Originally Posted by burton_bean

Hey guys I'm new to this forum. I have been lucid dreaming for about two weeks and have already had three LD's with the MILD technique , but I want to try WILD. Even without keeping my mind conscious I have felt the vibrations, and lightness of my body. The one question I have is, how can you tell when you transition from SP to the dream?

Well the first time I ever had a lucid I woke up in my bed very shortly after falling asleep to find that everything but me eyes were paralyzed it freaked me out and I fought it until l I finally broke free. I lied back down and proceeded to go back to sleep only to fall right back in. it was then I said to myself "screw it, I'll just close my eyes and wake up in the morning, it'll be no big deal" and the moment I closed my eyes A world formed around me and I stood there in utter amazement as I thought to myself " holy shit I'm dreaming, cause I know I'm lying in my bed right now" that was my first discovery about lucid dreams and one of the most incredible Lucid dreams I've ever had! So with that being said, if you go into full paralysis. just start thinking about where you want to be and if all goes well like in my dreams, you'll be there faster than you can blink!

How long does it take for sp to kick in for you, and what do you mean by making your body heavy? I heard that your supposed to ignore all external stimuli to trick your body into thinking its asleep(then your mind will folllow). I tried this today, and it was really annoying trying to ignore all physical stimuli. Itching, tickling(I have shaggy pillows), and all that other crap keeps me from maintaing a steady, mellow train of thought.