Thread: WILDING and HI... what does yours look like?

I used to experience HI and HS and I would not even realize there was anything unusual. One night I was so aware when it happen that it startled the hell out of me! I kept seeing this man and his daughter sitting on a step talking. I sat straight up and went to my computer to look up what I'd just experienced. After realizing what HI was (this was after being interested in LDing, I'm surprised I hadn't read about it earlier), I stopped experiencing it for a few months.

Recently I have been attempting to WILD, and I am curious about my HI. I have not yet been successful, but I have gone into SP and seen and heard a lot of HI/HS. My HS is very clear, just as though someone were talking to me. My HI are fleeting images, but one thing I've noticed is that they are always in a certain position. It's like I'm seeing a painting hung on a wall, but they are always either on the right or left side of my vision, about mid-height. I'm just curious about what your HI looks like, especially orientation-wise. I know they are supposed to be more complex and eventually take up all of your vision and whatnot, but what does it look like initially?

The HI that was very vivid 2 nights ago was a young girl in a white dress standing on a beach. I've photoshopped basically what it looked like.

Strangely, after I saw this I heard a woman say, "If you want the toy, we'll have to go to McDonalds." Dreams are so crazy!

I think I'm going to try to imagine WILDing like the scene in The Voyage of the Dawn Treader, where the children get pulled into the painting. That's sort of what it feels like!

That's an interesting picture. I'd say my H.I. looks like what you get on Photoshop when you use the Lights render, but with multiple colours and obviously animated.

mine looks almost like what you would see when looking at an aurora borealis. then my mind will wander and I begin to start watching a dream like a movie, pretty much my whole vision is filled. when i get to this point i usually feel like i'm about to fall asleep and unintentionally bring back my conscious thought and then I feel reality again(and know reality because 100% of time RC shows reality). if i let it go i feel that I might fall asleep and probably do when i wake up in the morning. i've even laid there for about 2 hours in SP doing it over and over but no success...

Any hints experienced people? much appreciated

Originally Posted by Tom187

mine looks almost like what you would see when looking at an aurora borealis. then my mind will wander and I begin to start watching a dream like a movie, pretty much my whole vision is filled

Hmm, from what I've read on the tutorials, it sounds like you are close if it's like a movie? That's pretty neat, with the aurora borealis. At the very least, it would be nice to fall asleep to something that pretty every night

And yet, when doing a WILD I get SO bored

Originally Posted by Jdeadevil

the Lights render, but with multiple colours and obviously animated.

That's what I'm curious about. Mine tend to just start off as images, almost just like different photographs flashing before my eyes. I haven't gotten to the point where they are animated or linked, but I've never seen the color flashes and etc. that I've read so much about.

Originally Posted by Shift

That's what I'm curious about. Mine tend to just start off as images, almost just like different photographs flashing before my eyes. I haven't gotten to the point where they are animated or linked, but I've never seen the color flashes and etc. that I've read so much about.

Well they didn't properly animate, just appeared and disappeared. No pictures ever come, but from plenty of past experience, I know that if you imagine a picture for a bit a second and then cancel it out, you will see it a tiny bit fading out.

Originally Posted by Jdeadevil

No pictures ever come, but from plenty of past experience, I know that if you imagine a picture for a bit a second and then cancel it out, you will see it a tiny bit fading out.

Hmm that's strange. That's all I see. Random glimpses I guess into the dream world. People, objects, etc., but never anything abstract. They are usually highly defined, but are so hard to focus that they disappear instantaneously. Sometimes I'll see something, and seconds later can't remember what it was. The brain is such a fantastic thing

It is indeed.

Shift, I'm fascinated by your description of your HI. Especailly with the orientation. It brings to mind so many things I've heard about left/right brain dominance, eye position during sleep, ect. I hope we get enough people describing their HI to draw some conclusions. This would make a great research project.

I am going to pay more specific attention to my HI, but off the top of my head, let me see what I can remember.

They sneak up on me. I always feel as if I am dropped into a scene that is already in progress. I feel like I have missed the beginning, and now I need to really focus to catch up on what the hell is going on. I will often get complete yet brief scenes with accompanying dialogue. When I am paying attention, I can recognize the HI, but as soon as I identify it, I lose it.

To put things straight, HI is the what you see when you have your eyes closed isn't it?

Originally Posted by Robot_Butler

Shift, I'm fascinated by your description of your HI. Especailly with the orientation. It brings to mind so many things I've heard about left/right brain dominance, eye position during sleep, ect. I hope we get enough people describing their HI to draw some conclusions. This would make a great research project.

When I am paying attention, I can recognize the HI, but as soon as I identify it, I lose it.

Exactly, I think it is such an interesting concept/topic! I would love to form some sort of survey and figure this out, and I agree: everyone please post some input so we can get an idea of this phenomenon!

My HI/HS usually appear as I am laying in bed, relaxing, and thinking from thought to thought while trying not to concentrate on anything at all. Mixed in between my conscious, relevant thoughts will be random, completely unrelated images. My consciousness will try to focus on it more, and it will disappear, but not before I get some clear concept of what it was (in the case of the girl on the beach, that image is basically exactly what I saw, then it disappeared... the girl was standing at a different angle, but that's the only difference.)

I guess people use the term HI loosely to refer to any of the hallucinations, dreamlets, and geometric patterns you get while falling asleep. Thats why I'm so interested. People say HI, but there are so many different kinds of HI. Sounds, tactile sensations, emotions. It would be cool to figure it all out.

Yes, that's true. When I say HI, I mean those images, like photographs, that I keep mentioning. When I say HS, I mean auditory hallucinations, things that I hear that sound just as though they were happening in real life. I've only experience snippets of conversation though, no other types of audio. And I've never felt, tasted, or smelled anything. (HT=taste, HF=feeling, HO=odor???) I guess "Hypnagogia" refers to them as a group.

I hear noises first, basically just someone talking about random crap, and it's usually in my right ear only. And I see someone or something in the right side of my vision spectrum.

And then they go to the center, and the images are usually kind of frightening, like zombies and deformed people and stuff like that, which leads me to sometimes believe I am clinically insane.

They are often pleasant though, just genuinely strange and random images floating in the center of my vision.

Originally Posted by Jim224

I hear noises first, basically just someone talking about random crap, and it's usually in my right ear only. And I see someone or something in the right side of my vision spectrum.

And then they go to the center, and the images are usually kind of frightening, like zombies and deformed people and stuff like that, which leads me to sometimes believe I am clinically insane.

They are often pleasant though, just genuinely strange and random images floating in the center of my vision.

I am actually not sure if I hear sounds or see images first. I will have to pay attention to that detail.
That zombie thing sounds pretty scary, if you are trying to fall asleep My HI never seems to be related to anything else, so I am not sure what inspires it, do you have any clue what causes you to see those images over anything else?
Are the sounds related to the zombies/deformed people (haha groaning, chainsaws?), or unrelated?

The times I've WILDed.. there's always a huge dropoff for me; almost similar to what Robot Butler said about feeling like he missed something. Suddenly I realize I'm in the midst of some very serious imagery; and then I sort of pull myself into the front of my brain to bring everything into focus. But so far I've had to go almost completely unconscious to get to the point where the imagery is intense enough to enter.

so pretty much it seems that there is a very fine line that each person needs to find where they are in between sleep and consciousness and use their HI to drag them in? If you are too conscious then there is no use and if you are too tired you may just fall asleep.

seems difficult since i find that my mind wavers to and fro and i'll catch myself sometimes before falling asleep and sometimes i'm feeling as if its easy for me to enter sleep paralysis because my mind is so active but i don't get anywhere from there.

I've WILDed 3 times now and still haven't had HI yet. I just enter straight into the dream.