Thread: trouble with LDS and my pops

why exactly does your dad not want you to try it? Please answer this the best you can, maybe asking him about it before.

Originally Posted by LLR

im 13 and live at home my dad dose not want me 2 try and have a lucid dream is there any thing evil about lucid dreaming b/c i do bleave in god but beside that my recall has gone 2 hell and back

Does your Dad share your dreams?
I mean how would he know how you dream?

Originally Posted by DreamChaser

Does your Dad share your dreams?
I mean how would he know how you dream?

I didn't want to start with that right now, you see his father might read this thread ^^

he thanks its evil and i always have tell someone and it get back 2 my dad

Originally Posted by ShadowmanX

I didn't want to start with that right now, you see his father might read this thread ^^

nope he has no idea i even come 2 this site lol

Originally Posted by LLR

he thanks its evil and i always have tell someone and it get back 2 my dad

Well thats too bad. Your dad seems to be this kind of person who won't change his mind. at least thats my suggestion for what you told, I can't be sure.

My dad is/was similar everytime he would see me trying something extraordinary (I'm really interested in paranormal stuff like telekinesis and telepathy) he said thats nonsense and should do that because wouldn't work.

My suggestion is you try it without him knowing. If you have to tell someone, then just tell about how your dream was and what you did and don't mention that you purposely where controling the dream. If you have really good control and get extremely excited to telling someone then just mention that it was very vivd and you can remeber any detail

And for your first question: As far as I know there is nothing evil about it. I really think you should talk about it with your father. Why he thinks it is evil and how he got the idea. Maybe he had bad experiences himself, but this doesn't mean you'll have the same.

Hope this is helping

u see i some times sleepwalk when i have a LD so and he says it has some thing 2 do with Hypnosis

Did you try...just doing it without telling him? How would he know? Unless you think he's psychic or something.

By the way, I'm getting blaring warning signs here the way you describe him. It sounds like he's abusing you. You might want to move out as soon as humanly possible.

Don't bring it up again, unless he mentions it first. If he does, don't refer to it as "lucid dreaming," but as "realizing when you are dreaming," because it sounds less different (and to the superstitious, less intimidating and mystical). Tell him that many people (even children) realize they are dreaming naturally during some nightmares. Tell him that it has been studied intensely over the past decade, and no ill side-effects have ever been recorded. Tell him that because realizing when you are dreaming is so rare, you won't have them very often even if you practice, so it cannot hinder any natural dream processes.

Of course, some parents can't be talked to with common sense. If the above doesn't work, try the below:

So? Do it anyway. It's not like he's going to find out, unless you are blatant about reality checks. Nobody can tell you how to dream. Hide your journal (perhaps on the computer), or put your lucids in code (don't mention lucidity, but put a symbol by the date indicating you were lucid).

My thoughts are, you were too flagrant about lucid dreaming. You can't go up to a superstitious type and be all "I'm practicing lucid dreaming so that I can be the God of the dream world," and think that they won't caution you.

Originally Posted by drewmandan

Did you try...just doing it without telling him? How would he know? Unless you think he's psychic or something.

By the way, I'm getting blaring warning signs here the way you describe him. It sounds like he's abusing you. You might want to move out as soon as humanly possible.

lol thats a good one no but my dad dose scare the crap out of me but theres still the prom with my recall but i have had a few LDS here and there

Originally Posted by Abra

... I can be the God of the dream world...

I guess you just brought it to the point, he might think that of some kind of blasphemie ^^

Originally Posted by LLR

u see i some times sleepwalk when i have a LD so and he says it has some thing 2 do with Hypnosis

There are two main reasons why he is pretty much wrong here:

1. During a dream (known as a REM period), the body is paralyzed. Sleepwalking occurs during deep sleep (NREM periods), not dreams.
2. During hypnosis, you are actually fully conscious, but completely relaxed and focused. When hypnotized, you can reject whatever suggestions you don't want to do. Hypnosis is not a form of mind control.

ok but can some one help me with my recall it crap now a days

what helped me was auto suggestion. When going to bed just say to yourself "I will remember my dreams" you can also just think these words it doesn't matter, but the more you think or say them the better

Alsao try eating peanuts. I had my first recall for months after eating peanuts

lol ok ty

Originally Posted by LLR

he thanks its evil and i always have tell someone and it get back 2 my dad

Easy solution:

Don't mention it again to your Dad.
You said he doesn't know about this site.
You said you have to tell someone.
Tell us.

Job Done.

We can help you through it all.
Just delete history and hide this site as a Favorite (if he uses same computer).

Originally Posted by ShadowmanX

what helped me was auto suggestion. When going to bed just say to yourself "I will remember my dreams" you can also just think these words it doesn't matter, but the more you think or say them the better

Alsao try eating peanuts. I had my first recall for months after eating peanuts

Peanuts gives me pimples.

my mom wasnt too fond of me learning to LD as well but im 19 so she didnt really have a say in the matter lol, i would suggest 2 things, first just LD and dont mention it to him anymore, and 2nd if you dont like the idea of that them just punch your dad in the kidney and tell him your gonna LD if you want to

Originally Posted by oubaseballd3

my mom wasnt too fond of me learning to LD as well but im 19 so she didnt really have a say in the matter lol, i would suggest 2 things, first just LD and dont mention it to him anymore, and 2nd if you dont like the idea of that them just punch your dad in the kidney and tell him your gonna LD if you want to

I wouldn't recommend the second suggestion, but in the dream world you may just get your chance to.


Example:
http://www.dreamviews.com/community/...ad.php?t=62896

wow lol if i did that he would proble cup check me and then ground me but im still having a dry spell.

ha just a thought...

then again you could do what i did and tell him that you are just exercising more control over your body and are trying to control everything about yourself, and also on a side note, dont mention the effects of SP if you havent already...i did that lol and my mom started in with "thats probably God telling you that you arent supposed to be doing that" ...and there is no arguing that (cause i wonder that occasionally as well lol)

lol

Just restrict your talking to Dream Views.
Easy.
We will support all of you.

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