Thread: Finally, A 10 second lucid induction! Title -*MFG*

Originally Posted by dcs82009

When you do this step, do you just reach out your real hands to "grab" something in your visualization, or do you actually, tangibly grab something near the bed in your room?

If I understand correctly you use you real hands to reach out and grab something in the dream. The thing is, when you do this your real hands do not move, instead your dream hands move and grab the dream world and pull you into it.

Originally Posted by Jamoca

I tried this last night with some good results. Here is what happened, pasted from my DJ. Anyway, I really feel like this has some potential and I think it should be experimented with more. I will keep on working on it.

Maloc's Fast Grab
I attempted this technique with interesting results. I visualized a world and started to see bright colors. However, I didn't wait until it formed, I just tried with all my might to reach out with my hands. I found that I couldn't and my body felt incredibly tight and bound. My dream hands sunk into a pool of molten color and it was the strangest feeling. Unfortunately I did not enter a lucid dream. The whole experience felt like a fast WILD, in a way. It was really great. I want to try it again.

I tried it another time in the night but I didn't visualize anything and I was on my belly so I ended up just hitting my bed with my real hands.

Glad to hear your results and I'm sure I will hear many more soon. The more people attempting this, the better. For this, I believe, is the technique to do.

Originally Posted by Jamoca

If I understand correctly you use you real hands to reach out and grab something in the dream. The thing is, when you do this your real hands do not move, instead your dream hands move and grab the dream world and pull you into it.

Presto you answered correctly. I told him to to read the following steps but I can now see how they could confuse as what to grab. If I could, I would edit the OP. Anyway to do that?

Tried your technique, but i think i was too sleepy. I remember waking up early early in the morning and say i was going to attempt it, but i can't recall. At any rate heaps of vivids, i wil try again tonight. As a sidenote I'm awarding -5 internets for quoting yourself.

I tried last night and the image of my world began forming but it lost shape and I tried again, but lost it again... I guess I need to try to improve my visualization skills, but I fell asleep during one attempt

I tried it last night.. I dont I'm good at visualization? Am I supposed to imagine a place that I like? or an actual place Im familiar with? Is it first person or third person?
PS: I've never had a lucid dream btw so I kinda reckon on my input is void lol

my real hand kept moving and woke me up

Originally Posted by Lionsroar

I tried it last night.. I dont I'm good at visualization? Am I supposed to imagine a place that I like? or an actual place Im familiar with? Is it first person or third person?
PS: I've never had a lucid dream btw so I kinda reckon on my input is void lol

If you read again, its supposed to be random. Mostly the image will be in first-person as in, its just a vivid image with you not having a body( you might, depends on your image)

Originally Posted by Cammy

my real hand kept moving and woke me up

Well for you having to do this method, you were already awoke to start off of. How did you hand keep moving? You mean, did you try it repeatedly, because if you did, make sure the image you see is vivid enough and only catch a dream-something then.

For the people who absolutely suck at visualization. Try this visual technique. Imagine what first comes in your mind. Imagine it alive. Example: if its a forest, then think of an active forest. When you do this your mind will have trees moving by the wind and deers running around. Whatever your subconscious thinks of, it'll be unique and different everytime because it will be random. Once you thought of this moving random image, keep it in your mind and don't do anything conciously on your part to influence it. It should by nature, get vivid on its own. This method though may take anywhere from 15 secs to 2 min. But for you beginners, it should be alright. Also if you can, do this method now or asap, then do it when you attempt MFG so that its easier upon your self.

P.S. Right now, I'm working on a tech that will only take 3 seconds to do. If my theory on it is right, it should either require no visualization OR it'll provide visualization already to you (OR it might not work at all). Not saying anymore about it. For now, I want people to read this guide thoroughly to understand it and have fun with it.

P.S.S. I still offer my challenge

Ok, so I've been trying to do this for the past two nights. The technique, as intended, hasn't worked for me yet. But I tried to do it so many times, that I actually tried it while I was dreaming and voila!

That's a pretty interesting technique. I gave it a spin last night when I woke up around 4 A.M. As I closed my eyes I started to see a grayish fog which lightened into a fuzzy scene within about five seconds. A few seconds later it become much clearer and I began to wonder if this was the moment I was waiting for... but after about three seconds it began to fade. I had waited too long as I was expecting it to come into focus better. I made a second attempt, but apparently I only succeeded in going back to sleep

I think this has potential; I shall try again tonight.

wow this technique sounds promising, so when you imagine everything getting brighter and brighter do you literally see it getting brighter?

Hey man, I like your technique. However, I don't like the beginner visualization part. Can you please clarify the normal visualization part?

Originally Posted by RockNRoller123

Hey man, I like your technique. However, I don't like the beginner visualization part. Can you please clarify the normal visualization part?

I wrote it in the OP.

Oh, Thank you.

Originally Posted by RockNRoller123

Oh, Thank you.

Np, the beginner viz. is a tech i wrote for beginners to do in case they found the viz that was written in the original post difficult. If your confused still, i have 20 min of free time to answer questions.

Cool.

SO...

Can you walk me through how you might typically visualize for your technique?

Originally Posted by RockNRoller123

Cool.

SO...

Can you walk me through how you might typically visualize for your technique?

Sure, wanna go to chatroom so it'll be an easier convo? Or discuss it here?

Here's cool.

I would sleep for like 4-6 hours. Don't matter as long as I'm in REM, though its easier to do when very tired because HI gives a huge advantage to visualization. Then I would take care of business and attempt this method. (------A whole paragraph got erased because I had to refresh page....)

I would then, think of a random place, such as a room or outside, and hold it in my mind. Then, I would imagine it getting more clear and colorful, while being "lively", meaning the grass will be sway with the wind and people walking around.(<--- This paragraph is the rewritten version, that summarized the first one ...the first one was more detailed......)

In fact: Don't think of it getting brighter but instead, think of it getting more colorful. Lol I finally thought of the perfect word to explain it Anyways in its basic form: Think of a lively world getting more clearer and colorful in a slow fading transition type of way. Like how you would wipe a windshield from rain. You keep wiping and wiping and it gets more clear. Once its vivid enough to "daze" you, making you think wow, then hurry, with your real hand, grab a nearby object (like a pice of grass, or a rock, or even touching a wall, anything. Could be a toy.) and hold on to it, you'll then instantly feel yourself in the dream. It will sway or something, like your forcing your self in and its stabilizing lol. Then after that, I would do my normal stabilizing technique such as spinning or examining the ground, to have a perfect lucid. By the way, this technique has given me highly vivid lucids upon entering, so you won't have to worry about fuzzy dreams and so. Well, its about that time. Cya

Wow...

Thats GENIOUS!

Wow some really interesting happened last night, when i was going to bed and just looked at the blackness between my eye lids i imagined everything getting brighter and out of no where i see these 2 chairs that are in my backyard it looked 100&#37; real but a little dim it was their for a few seconds than it disappeared

Ok heres a re-modified better edited way of saying it so you guys complete it the first time.

As I said, this technique works anytime REM is available. I'd advise for you to do it atleast by 5 min of waking up, as HI will dramatically increase your visualizations faster and more vivid.

First, after you wake. Take care of business, like a restroom run, or snack. Iff you don't have anything like that to do then move on to the next step.

Second, close your eyes and right there where the darkness is in front of you, imagine an image that your familiar with, like your room, or somewhere outside, getting more clearer and colorful each passing moment. Clearer, bright and colorful, clearer, bright, and colorful. Make sure this image that you're trying to reveal is right in front of you, like its filling in the darkness that you were originally looking at. This process will be fast and should only take 3-15 seconds, 10 on average for it to be right on spot.

Third. Seems like most people don't know how vivid it has to be for the grabbing procedure begin .You'll know when the image is vivid enough, when you end up noticing that your actually examining itlike its real(because it'll look real).

Fourth. At that point, when you notice yourself examining it, using your real hands, grab the nearest image/dream object ASAP. You'll probably have only 2 seconds upon after realising that your examining it, to grab something, ANYThing. If you haven't found the nearest object of the image, just reach out your hands anyway and sway around or something to grab something. Just like if you fell off a building, you would grab something using instincts, sight, whatever to grab anything to catch on to. Same thing applies to this lol.

Fifth, As soon as you got your object, you will feel as if your completely transistioning in the dream world. DON't let go of it yet, keep holding and touching it until your satisfied that you are safe to say that your completely in the dream. After that, do a stabillize tech(I recommend) and reward yourslef with the title of Dream-Catcher

I ended up in a VILD when I tried this. Great stuff

It would work great if my visualization wasn't crappy, I need to practice more consistently, I have practiced on and off for a year and it doesn't seem to help unless I keep at it day to day.

Although the technique does work in a DEILD sense, because it is pretty similar to my DEILD technique, it just sucks when I'm awake for some time.