Thread: No More Doubts: What's A Lucid Dream?

I don't understood that...

It means: Subconcious of newbies will absorb the concept of a FLD and end up replying it when there is a chance of a LD, thus, ruining their LD experience.
Basically, a myth. Like the "you can't read, being excited wakes you, can't feel pain" in dreams, thing. Anyway, just recalled you speak spanish better, so if you want to keep discussing this, should be better of by PM lol (silly me...)

All I would say if people want to understand the concept of Lucid Dreaming and how far it can go; and this in that, read a book...

yeah I agree about the "switch", about waking up from a zombiefied delirium and becoming yourself. However you seem to mix that with levels of dream control. dream control VS levels of lucidity, is ineffable in my opinion- there are many guides about percentages, that kid on youtube made vids about the 5 "layers" of lucid dreaming- I think its much simpler- you are either lucid or not, you can have varying control and levels of consciousness that can vary from moment to moment.

However you seem to mix that with levels of dream control

but shift fixed it =P with her post.

you are either lucid or not, you can have varying control and levels of consciousness that can vary from moment to moment.

agree

hi, I made this graphic to aid the explanation of lucid dreaming.



I don't think that the graphic needs more explanation, it's very easy.

I would like to add some things:

The definition of lucid dreaming is:
Lucid dreaming is becoming aware that you are dreaming.
and it's right, no matter how aware,clear or vivid...

also:

Lucidity and Conscious go in the same hand.
Non-lucid = Unconscious (auto-pilot mode)
Lucid = Conscious (you know...it's like waking life)

about Dream Control:

I would say that control doesn't mean too much in a dream, because if you are controlling the dream, you can do it in a conscious or in a unconscious(auto-pilot mode) way.

the point is that Dream Control is different from Lucid Dreaming, has nothing to do with it, only the Consciousness or Unconsciousness of the control you are doing...

there are non-lucid dreams without control
there are non-lucid dreams with control(you have unconscious control)
there are lucid dreams without control(of certain things, like flying, also walking, or talking...)
there are lucid dreams with control(have fun! this is conscious control)


Why add a new term called False Lucid Dream?
it's just a new term.
people say that new terms complicate things....
then if new terms complicate things, why do we call "nightmares" to bad dreams?
why don't we call them just bad dreams..?
is the same thing...

So...

a False Lucid Dream is just a non-lucid dream, with different feelings, equally as a vivid non-lucid dream, or a non-lucid nightmare , they are still non-lucid.
People just have to learn to differenciate "being aware of dreaming", and "dreaming that being aware of dreaming"
and that difference can only be felt, not too explained.....


bye,

Very nice post, mariano. Good point about non-lucid / unconcious dream control still possible.