Thread: Stop Drop and Roll. Why Lucidology and Nicholas Newport are creating misinformation.

Originally Posted by WLLPEREGOY

i meant day not dad, spelling errors happen people

Yes...and the better placed they are, the more likely we are to make fun of them.

hahaha yeah....... that was a funny pic hahahaha

Originally Posted by WLLPEREGOY

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA oh man that just brightened up my dad lolololololololololol

Parental monitoring of online activity? Hmm.. I suggest he outsources the job to netnanny if he's worried about your online usage. Oh.. Hi WLLPEREGOY's dad. ^-^

Originally Posted by atkins513

Hey Thanks for posting. WE ARE PICKING UP THIS DISCUSSION AT THE LINK BELOW Please copy and paste your message into that forum.

http://www.dreamviews.com/f45/lucidology-101-nicholas-newport-entire-video-course-here-109585/

First off it's ridiculous that your trying to hijack this thread. If I was the OP I would be very pissed.

Second, what's your obsession with this guy? It seems that your one of the few people that like him. So maybe you should keep it to yourself.

Originally Posted by Jeff777

Parental monitoring of online activity? Hmm.. I suggest he outsources the job to netnanny if he's worried about your online usage. Oh.. Hi WLLPEREGOY's dad. ^-^

read the post above, my god

Originally Posted by WLLPEREGOY

read the post above, my god

Oh people are just messing with you... Take it as being part of the family.

Originally Posted by dakotahnok

Oh people are just messing with you... Take it as being part of the family.

i know................................... potatoes and a moose

POTATOES

yeah............. potatoes are good

Originally Posted by Mario92

If you're paying for lucid dreaming, you're doing it wrong.

UR DOIN IT WRONG!!!

Sorry couldn't help myself lol

I think the worst part is that he calls all other guides out there 'weak and ineffective'.

Ha ha ha I just read all 12 pages of this thread (actually mostly skimmed it, reading the important things) and I just have to say this it is fucking hilarious!!! I mean come on Atkins you try to steal the thread and move it to one of your own (why? because you want to have a big successful thread?) then when people make fun of you and get mad that you want to move the thread you whine and say that your going to ignore this thread. But nope you come back over and over again to basically say the same thing every time. Then the thread slowed down and almost stopped, but you kept posting about how it was slowing down, which in turn probably made it more popular again. Anyways, if you have a problem with the thread just stop visiting it.

Hehehe

Last night between 4 and 7pm I did my first year 12 lesson on Philosophy at an adult campus. It was an overview of the whole year course. Josh (the young, hip teacher) talked about argument and the penny slowly started to drop (hehehe)

I bet folk like Aquanina and other very mean and arguementative folk are practicing "Philosophical Argument" (hahaha).

Wellllll

WATCH-OUT

Because this year I'M going to learn how to ARGUE (hehehe)

Then I'll be no more Mrs Whimpy Nice gal (hahaha)

You guy'S say so much UNINFORMED crap about Nick and Lucidology 101 but so far I just whimp-out and let it pass. Now I think some of you are doing it on purpose cos you want to practice your Philosophical Argument Skills.

You are baiting us"Nick-fans".

Soon as I get my Philosophical argument shit together I'LL TAKE YOU ON.

Originally Posted by debrajane

Hehehe

Last night between 4 and 7pm I did my first year 12 lesson on Philosophy at an adult campus. It was an overview of the whole year course. Josh (the young, hip teacher) talked about argument and the penny slowly started to drop (hehehe)

I bet folk like Aquanina and other very mean and arguementative folk are practicing "Philosophical Argument" (hahaha).

Wellllll

WATCH-OUT

Because this year I'M going to learn how to ARGUE (hehehe)

Then I'll be no more Mrs Whimpy Nice gal (hahaha)

You guy'S say so much UNINFORMED crap about Nick and Lucidology 101 but so far I just whimp-out and let it pass. Now I think some of you are doing it on purpose cos you want to practice your Philosophical Argument Skills.

You are baiting us"Nick-fans".

Soon as I get my Philosophical argument shit together I'LL TAKE YOU ON.

I hereby nominate this as the funniest post I think I've ever seen on DV. Ever. Does anyone else feel the same way?

Argument Clinic

YouTube - Argument Clinic
(6:07) over a million views so far.

Originally Posted by debrajane

I bet folk like Aquanina and other very mean and arguementative folk are practicing "Philosophical Argument" (hahaha).

You are baiting us"Nick-fans".

Soon as I get my Philosophical argument shit together I'LL TAKE YOU ON.

Thats just the thing. Nobody is being mean, we are just talking about it in a negative or positive way, and there are people that disagree with both sides of the argument.
In fact, the only people being 'mean' and insulting are the "Nick-fans" (well, 1 of them anyway)
Just remember, nobody has insulted you for liking Lucidology so try not to take it personally but by all means come back with some counter arguments. I have no problem being proven wrong especially if its something that helps me become lucid

Originally Posted by debrajane

I bet folk like Aquanina and other very mean and arguementative folk are practicing "Philosophical Argument" (hahaha).

The bizarre thing is that you're talking about me as if I'm not here, and yet I'm obviously going to read this thread. Am I really so mean and argumentative? Did I hurt your feelings?

Originally Posted by debrajane

Hehehe

Last night between 4 and 7pm I did my first year 12 lesson on Philosophy at an adult campus. It was an overview of the whole year course. Josh (the young, hip teacher) talked about argument and the penny slowly started to drop (hehehe)

I bet folk like Aquanina and other very mean and arguementative folk are practicing "Philosophical Argument" (hahaha).

Wellllll

WATCH-OUT

Because this year I'M going to learn how to ARGUE (hehehe)

Then I'll be no more Mrs Whimpy Nice gal (hahaha)

You guy'S say so much UNINFORMED crap about Nick and Lucidology 101 but so far I just whimp-out and let it pass. Now I think some of you are doing it on purpose cos you want to practice your Philosophical Argument Skills.

You are baiting us"Nick-fans".

Soon as I get my Philosophical argument shit together I'LL TAKE YOU ON.

You could take anyone on right now. Debating skills take practice. I'm not so good myself, but if you have a point to make you should make it. We don't need to "watch out" because as long as you make a valid point to argue what people are saying in this thread then people people will consider it. It doesn't mean that those people won't find something to use to debate against it... But what have you got to lose? Really?

And people here are not "being mean". Aquanina is not mean for giving her opinions on this subject. Debating can get pretty heated sometimes, but it's for a reason, not to make people feel shit. Some are more blunt than others.

Feel free to "take us on"...

When you google his name, this thread comes up in the second spot. Which I find kind of interesting. I look at some of the videos and I can see why people think he is a joke. The basic information seems okay for the most part, but a few of the things he says is really out there, and make no sense.

Alric

Be specific,

You wrote:

***The basic information seems okay for the most part, but a few of the things he says is really out there, and make no sense.***


Exactly what do you consider "really out there, and make no sense."

Quote the bits from his 101 YouTube's that you consider "really out there and make no sense".

I have transcribed the first 5 or 6 YouTube video's onto the other thread. So, highlight, copy and paste what you don't like so I can understand.

The first was trying to diagnosis sleep apnea while in sleep paralysis. I am not sure if that is even possible, but even if it was people shouldn't be trying to diagnosis things in that way, and it is probably just going to scare people more than anything.

Some of the mind body independence stuff, which was pointed out earlier in the thread also make no sense. I think he was just trying to simplify it for people, but it does come out sounding a bit silly. Mostly that isn't a big deal however, I don't know what he is talking about when he is explaining how the body sends extreme pain to test if you are awake or not. He mentions it a few times, about the extreme pain in sleep paralysis. I am not sure what he is doing but no one should be experiencing "extreme" pain during any of the techniques.

I also don't know what he is talking about with the jaw stuff. I suppose some people may have problems, like people who constantly grind their teeth and stuff. However for most people, I think applying pressure to your jaw and tugging on it really hard and stuff is a bit over doing it for us. I am not even sure if it is safe to tell a person to stick their fingers in their mouth and tug their jaw down as hard as possible. He basically said it was impossible to hurt yourself so do it as hard as possible. Maybe you can tell me if that is actually true or not?

Thank you Alric

You have given me several things to work on. I got study and my cleaning chores to do so it might be a while before I reply.

Thanx again for spelling-out where you feel Nick lost-the-plot a bit.

And giving me something to work with.

Respectively yours

DebraJane

(It is 10:40 am here in Adelaide, South Australia)

Originally Posted by Raspberry

You could take anyone on right now. Debating skills take practice. I'm not so good myself, but if you have a point to make you should make it. We don't need to "watch out" because as long as you make a valid point to argue what people are saying in this thread then people people will consider it. It doesn't mean that those people won't find something to use to debate against it... But what have you got to lose? Really?

And people here are not "being mean". Aquanina is not mean for giving her opinions on this subject. Debating can get pretty heated sometimes, but it's for a reason, not to make people feel shit. Some are more blunt than others.

Feel free to "take us on"...

Trust me, sometimes it does make people feel shit. When five or six people shoot someone down they do feel shitty.

Aside from the few silly things he does talk about though, I would suspect most of the stuff should work to some degree or other. Since it is basically the same stuff here on the forums, I don't see any controversy on the basic stuff he is saying. Each person is different so if someone understands it better by looking at videos then they should go for it.