Stop Drop and Roll. Why Lucidology and Nicholas Newport are creating misinformation.

**Raspberry** · 02-21-2011 09:03 PM

Originally Posted by obama6493

I don't know why but i can't watch these videos at all...

They feel so...so...pseudo-real...

Originally I was very neutral-stanced in this. But I can't watch the videos either. I watch them half-bored because as most others have said, it's the same old stuff but made all fancy and hard to understand. To me, this looked as though he only does it to confuse the watcher, making them think he knows his stuff and so they should buy what he offers them. This is probably screwing with a lot of newbies, in my opinion.

I have also taken a test (my school does this to all their pupils) to find out what type of learner I am so I can efficiently study for my exams. I was one of the very few to be visual, which means those videos should appeal and make sense to me. Obviously, the listening and physical aspects of learning also make up the final outcome for my learning type, but considering I learn a hell of a lot faster when I'm using powerpoints, charts, and graphs, I figured that the graphs should've made more sense to me, especially since I already know quite a bit about lucid dreaming.

Everyone knows that graphs aren't difficult at all. I'm a credit maths student. So when I was looking at them, I shouldn't have been thinking "What the bloody hell is this?" I had to stop at each one, and then finally I would conclude it was a bunch of random lines, and who really needs a graph to explain sleep paralysis? There were other things I disagreed with too, such as SP (and the itches etc) being "excruciatingly painful". I didn't watch all of the videos. Most of them just made me laugh (such as the stop, drop and roll one).

I like to keep an open mind about most things, but I just can't see any sense in what he's saying and feel as though people are being scammed.

As WLLPEREGOY said, some of us are hesitant to part with our money (I'm a middle-class teenager living in a recession). $35 is like what, £24 or something? For me that's quite a bit to be spending on something. Especially when I can get a heap of info for free on this site. And people are finding and coming up with free methods all of them time. When I have trouble with something, I can just post a thread asking about it and quite a few people will help me out and patiently answer my questions, almost always offering new information I didn't know about before.

Another thing that bothers me is all of this "research" he's done. I didn't find any evidence of this in the videos. Sure, he showed a picture of a stack of books. But they could have been a stack of any books. I don't remember seeing any names on spines because he flipped them around to show the pages instead.

I think I'll stay away from him thanks. I would rather keep the £50 from 102 and 103 and spend it on something I'm not so wary of.

My 2 cents

**Kona** · 02-23-2011 12:19 AM

yeah either DV or EWLD which is like $5 if you want a book thats a nice price and chalk fulll of stuff

**Maria92** · 02-25-2011 11:38 PM

Originally Posted by debrajane

Last night, I got lucid.

I was sting crosslegged on the floor in-doors. I looked at my legs and thought, "if I'm dreaming, my legs will be flexible and pain-free."

Slowly, tentatively, I moved my knees down to the ground. Yes, I was dreaming.

So What.

There is nothing to do.

I stood up. Walked over to someone who was watching me. I felt sad.

Any way

I only want lucidity for my "not quite mutual dreaming, & not quite remote viewing" thread activity. But that thread was deleted and I am still banned from the main IASD website.

No one plays my "New Synchronizity Game" thread on SALTCUBE but it costs $35 to get a login at saltcube.

And

No one is on my frequency at Dream Views.

My games bring verification that participants do/did visit the beach, traveling through the Mandala.

But, except for a couple of participants, like c and o, no one plays and now that my thread was obliterated and I was banned, no one can play.

Still no word for the mods that took down the thread and banned me. I keep contacting R at IASD's office, 3 times now, since 11/11/10 but one talks to me.

Lucidity just for the sake of it does not turn me on. It (for me) is lonely and boring.

I have got a "set-up" that can validate that you guys LD/OBE to my beach. It is a light, friendly and fun game, so let's get to it.

**EbbTide000** · 02-25-2011 11:43 PM

Sorry

I am deleting post now.

**saltyseedog** · 02-26-2011 04:44 AM

No one is on my frequency at Dream Views.

I'm on your frequency!!!

Lucidity just for the sake of it does not turn me on. It (for me) is lonely and boring.

Me too, I need other dreamers.

**EbbTide000** · 02-26-2011 06:03 AM

1 Saltyseedog

How do you feel about opening a thread just for U and I (and anyone who wants to join in)? I don’t want to open threads in case I step-out-of-line and “They” obliterate my thread. If “They” delete my thread everyone else’s posts are lost along with mine. If it is your thread, they might ban me and my posts but I will still be able to read how everyone else, contributing to your thread, are getting on.

If you open a thread I will post what I posted on saltcube (and somewhere on Dream Views) to your thread about how to get to my beach, to mutual dream and remote view. On saltcube I called my thread. “New Synchronicity Game”.

Also, salty see dog, can you teach me how to post pictures into the body of my post’s, please.

**saltyseedog** · 02-26-2011 06:10 AM

Originally Posted by debrajane

1 Saltyseedog

How do you feel about opening a thread just for U and I (and anyone who wants to join in)? I don’t want to open threads in case I step-out-of-line and “They” obliterate my thread. If “They” delete my thread everyone else’s posts are lost along with mine. If it is your thread, they might ban me and my posts but I will still be able to read how everyone else, contributing to your thread, are getting on.

If you open a thread I will post what I posted on saltcube (and somewhere on Dream Views) to your thread about how to get to my beach, to mutual dream and remote view. On saltcube I called my thread. “New Synchronicity Game”.

Also, salty see dog, can you teach me how to post pictures into the body of my post’s, please.

Omg I'm tired and confused by all these words!!! Ya we can make a thread I don't see why not. I don't think anybody cares. Make it on beyond dreaming if its about dreamsharing and stuff.
If you wanna post pictures in posts press that button that has atree on it and it will say insert image. Then enter the url of a picture from like google images.

**EbbTide000** · 02-26-2011 06:21 AM

Thanx Saltyseedog

it is nearly 4pm here and I am at Netzone Internet Cafe.

I am working at uploading the first target for my saltcube thread called, "New Synchronicit Game".

When I finished I will follow your instructions and open a thread on "Beyond Dreaming" and try to upload todays pic. hope it works.

**saltyseedog** · 02-26-2011 06:29 AM

cool its like 9:25 here but I only got 3 hours sleep.... so is this the beach or whatever that you created and you get to it by going through a portal thing in your avatar?

**Mzzkc** · 02-26-2011 06:34 AM

Originally Posted by debrajane

How do you feel about opening a thread just for U and I (and anyone who wants to join in)? I don’t want to open threads in case I step-out-of-line and “They” obliterate my thread. If “They” delete my thread everyone else’s posts are lost along with mine. If it is your thread, they might ban me and my posts but I will still be able to read how everyone else, contributing to your thread, are getting on.

I'm all for intense paranoia every now and again, but don't you think your fears are a little unfounded? I'm pretty sure you'll be fine as long as you don't post ridiculous amounts of porn or anything like that.

**EbbTide000** · 02-26-2011 06:51 AM

Ok Mzzkc

I will restrain myself from posting ridiculous amounts of porn, (hahaha)

Saltyseedog

The beach (or whatever) is not and imaginary creation.

The beach is a geological reality.

The mandala might be imaginary or maybe not (hehehe). It is up to participants to experience and decide.

**saltyseedog** · 02-26-2011 06:59 AM

Everything is imaginary in a dream silly!!!! I'm going to Amsterdam tonight to smoke weed and I have no idea what it looks like, so my subconscious is going to fill in the details.
I would go to your beach place tonight but I gotta lotta dream plans... maybe later this week.
Have you ever been flying in a deam? Its friggin amazing! I fly over my town and I can see everything in detail in the entire town like flying in a plane and looking out the window.

**EbbTide000** · 02-26-2011 07:37 AM

Ok Saltyseedog

The thread called:

“Synchronicity Game” light, fun friendly”

is up on “Beyond Dreaming”

Could not get the picture up but the first link takes you to my Flickr account where I posted it last week. I hope I can learn how to get the pictures up without the link to my Flicker account.

It may take a bit of time before folks get the gist of this game.

**EbbTide000** · 02-26-2011 07:46 AM

No, saltyseedog

Not everything is imaginary in a dream. This game causes of the scale " SYNCHRONICITIES". but it is not something to debate and argue about, it is better felt than telt.

Oh! you just replied on that thread. so I will go to that thread and talk.

Originally Posted by saltyseedog

Everything is imaginary in a dream silly!!!! I'm going to Amsterdam tonight to smoke weed and I have no idea what it looks like, so my subconscious is going to fill in the details.
I would go to your beach place tonight but I gotta lotta dream plans... maybe later this week.
Have you ever been flying in a deam? Its friggin amazing! I fly over my town and I can see everything in detail in the entire town like flying in a plane and looking out the window.

**Wrighty** · 02-26-2011 04:41 PM

I would advise everyone to watch Reecejones87
he gives you alot of info on how to lucid dream and after a few days of getting into it i had my very first lucid dream

Hes also a really nice guy very knowledgable!!

FOOK Nick newport soon as i had the false feeling and left him a nice comment!! haha BULL S**T!!

**Dunchfastmo** · 02-26-2011 11:18 PM

i found the roll over graphs to be very helpfull

**EbbTide000** · 02-27-2011 01:50 AM

Hi MCCKC

Your avatar attracted me instantly when I saw it. It reminded me of a bowling ball. A bowling ball was my dream remote viewing Target that was uploaded to my Flickr account on 11/May/2010.

But

Just now, I went to get some bread and the Sunday paper and on the paper stand, on the shelf under the Sunday Mail was a FREE paper called "RIP IT UP" and emblazoned on the front cover IS your avatar.

I brought it home, put it on a table in the courtyard of the boarding house where I live, snapped it with my mobile and uploaded it to my Flickr account.

Put "Flickr" into the Google search.bar, then put "ultravioletfrog" into the Flickr search bar and the last photo in my Flickr account is your avatar.

To me, this cements that in the dream I remembered when I woke-up this morning IS the next dream Target for my new thread called "Synchronicity Game" light, fun and friendly.

So thanx Melchezadec. I will pay my tithe to U.

Originally Posted by Mzzkc

I'm all for intense paranoia every now and again, but don't you think your fears are a little unfounded? I'm pretty sure you'll be fine as long as you don't post ridiculous amounts of porn or anything like that.

**Raspberry** · 02-27-2011 06:30 PM

... Pm?

**Maria92** · 02-27-2011 08:16 PM

HAL 9000 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Is this your card?

**LucidPower** · 02-28-2011 01:45 AM

I think we should organise a DDOS attack on his websites to stop the spread of his nonsense in the lucid dreaming community.

**iFatal** · 02-28-2011 03:02 AM

Originally Posted by LucidPower

I think we should organise a DDOS attack on his websites to stop the spread of his nonsense in the lucid dreaming community.

Haha we would need a good programmer to do that.

**Jeff777** · 02-28-2011 04:14 AM

Originally Posted by iFatal

Haha we would need a good programmer to do that.

Take it a to a PM fellas. If you're serious, you don't want Google indexing this shit.

Plus I'm pretty sure "Tricky Dick Nick" has been to this thread.

**Maria92** · 02-28-2011 05:02 AM

Originally Posted by iFatal

Haha we would need a good programmer to do that.

No....you really don't. Just google "dangerous kitten". What you do with it after that is not my fault. The contents are legal as is. It is how you use them that gets you into trouble. I'll just leave this warning here:

PEOPLE HAVE BEEN REAL LIFE V& FOR DDoS ATTACKS

**EbbTide000** · 03-01-2011 02:46 AM

Wow! Mario 92 (and the rest of U)

Dangerous Kitten (?!?)

I woke out of an in-depth dream on 28/Dec/2010. Most of my dreams evaporate within about 3 seconds of me being aware that I'm awake.

I woke-up on the 28th, engulfed in a wonderful dream. To hold-on to it I shouted:

"Playfull Kittens!".

But the dream still evaporated and I couldn't even remember why I shouted the phrase:

"Playful Kittens!".

So, I grabbed this phone and opened a thread on SALTCUBE called "Playfull Kittens".

I recon, if you paid you 35 dollars and logged-in to SALTCUBE you would agree that, that thread alone is worth you $35.

Playful Kittens is (at the moment) thread 27 of the 40 threads on the front page at SALTCUBE.