Thread: Becoming Lucid WITHOUT using reality checks

Originally Posted by killaneko

Huh... I have never thought of myself as a "Natural"! I think if I was I would have alot more LD'S but im limited to about 1 or more a week. But as for what lucidreamsavy said, I too get a "dream feel" sometimes and becom lucid just because of it.

In my oppinion, become lucid because you just know doesn't make you a natural, I don't...I'm not a natural, that's for sure, but that's why I become lucid, and so do others. People (me included) also get lucid because they've BEEN lucid before, so you do, in fact, get that "dream feel". So, you may get lucid this way and not be a natural. Most naturals get them at least every other day at least, MOST, so there is a good chance that you're not a natural, but you could be I suppose...

A good number of naturals don't even know what LDs are, so since you've been doing RCs and know what a LD is...

I've never become lucid as a result of doing an RC.

I'm not a natural and I've only had a handful of LDs.



But I always do an RC every time I get lucid to make 100% sure that I'm dreaming.

Out of my 8 LDs, I've never used an RC either. It's more of a "let's just back up this idea that I'm dreaming" sort of thing.

The subconscious effect which becomes engrained by the process of consciously doing reality checks is more important than the checks themselves. Merely the act of checking if you are in a dream. You don't need a reality check in the common understanding of the word because you simply know you are awake when you are awake, so if your less than certain - you are dreaming. Either that or put the drink down. Reality checks in my opinion only really come into the equation, that's after once you've experienced lucidity a few times before, is in sleep paralysis or WILD. You want to be able to check your progress in sleep paralysis to see if you have transitioned to the dream body. Preferrably one without moving, unless you break the sleep paralysis state. Depending on the intensity of detail you might need a reality check, because sometimes it is so real in a WILD that you believe that you are simply walking around. Experience pretty much negates the need, but they can only help I think, even if you don't physically do anything.

Sometimes I find that I need to start off certain senses. Often I can see and hear, but touch is gone, or sound is not there. So I sort of have to do certain checks to make sure i'm properly aware. Not so much to see if I am lucid though, just to check the extent to which I am.

Dalziel is right.

The most important thing Reality Checking does is condition you to start questioning whether or not you are dreaming. If you do it enough, and have enough experience being inside and recognizing dreams, you won't even have to consciously question whether or not you are dreaming. You'll just know.

Of, course RCs do have their uses. Like Dalziel pointed out, they are a great tool to use when WILDing. Also, they can help you reaffirm that you're dreaming if your lucidity starts to wane.

And:

its called being a natural, i can do this any time i choose. i can chain dreams and all the other complex things that others take their whole lives to learn. i can even create hi while sleeping or awake if i wish. its so easy for me it kinda bores me sometimes.

i should take full control of one of my dreams sometime just because i can. i still have total control pasively or actively. i also never need any of the focusing techniques or anything.

You're so silly.

I actually became lucid entirely by reality check last night, something I never thought would happen.

I was at my friends house, when I suddenly appeared in my living room. Wait, I thought to myself, wasn't I JUST at my friend's house watching TV? How did I get here? I didn't think I was dreaming, but I reality checked because it seemed strange. I could breathe with my nose plugged, and so I realized I was dreaming.