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      I'll try V2.0. Sorry if this is a no0b question, but would these help with dream recall at all?
      I don't usually think, therefore I mostly am not.
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      You can not convince the one with faith who needs not look for fact that the facts "prove them wrong".
      Likewise, you cant teach some one who looks for facts to have faith in the absence of facts.

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      Quote Originally Posted by kookyinc View Post
      I'll try V2.0. Sorry if this is a no0b question, but would these help with dream recall at all?
      The poster himself said yes. And based on my experience a big YES and i'm pretty experienced in this section.
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      I just remembered very gapingly but nonetheless vivid clips of a dream last night. What was astonishing about it was that it was only 3 to 3.5 hours after first going to bed, I didn't even try and remember it. I normally only remember my dreams latter on when in my more powerful rem cycles. Got some open eye visualizations of white sparks while listening to the isocronic files similar to what one would experience from long term mediation into hypnotic imagery. And to whoever brought up I-doser, I'd recommend staying far away from their overtly priced files.

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      Going to try V 2.0 tonight. So should I listen before I go to bed? During a WBTB? As Im going to sleep at the beginning of the night or as Im going to sleep for a WBTB? Does it even matter lol?
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      Quote Originally Posted by Kangaxx View Post
      The poster himself said yes.
      Derp. Sorry, I'm dense sometimes.
      Also, one more question. Should I play V 2.0 once as I fall asleep or should I put it on repeat so I hear it all night?
      I don't usually think, therefore I mostly am not.
      Quote Originally Posted by abicus View Post
      You can not convince the one with faith who needs not look for fact that the facts "prove them wrong".
      Likewise, you cant teach some one who looks for facts to have faith in the absence of facts.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Kangaxx View Post
      The poster himself said yes. And based on my experience a big YES and i'm pretty experienced in this section.
      Absolutely. If you take a look at my Dream journal you'll see I've had a long dry streak, but since listening to this EVERY night I've had very vivid and intersting dreams... which I recall perfectly.

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      Good to hear! And I agree about i-doser...

      Going to try V 2.0 tonight. So should I listen before I go to bed? During a WBTB? As Im going to sleep at the beginning of the night or as Im going to sleep for a WBTB? Does it even matter lol?
      It does matter. Listen to it right before bed, or right before returning to sleep during a WBTB.

      Also, one more question. Should I play V 2.0 once as I fall asleep or should I put it on repeat so I hear it all night?
      Nope. Just listen to it once right before bed.
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      Thanks, mindwanderer! I'll post my results tomorrow!
      I don't usually think, therefore I mostly am not.
      Quote Originally Posted by abicus View Post
      You can not convince the one with faith who needs not look for fact that the facts "prove them wrong".
      Likewise, you cant teach some one who looks for facts to have faith in the absence of facts.

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      You welcome! Good luck and good dreams!

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      Ya thanks, Ill be trying it before I go to bed and before returning to bed during my WBTB.
      Oh, Nobly Born,
      Now is the moment.
      Before you is mind, open and wide as space,
      Simple, without center or circumference.
      Now is the moment of death.
      -- Tibetan Book of the Dead

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      Will post results today/tomorrow

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      Results: My dry streak of only one non-vivid dream fragment in the last 6 days has ended! Last night I had 1 short non-vivid dream and one nice, long, vivid dream. Nothing lucid (the dreams were actually consistent with reality, unfortunately), but thanks a million, mindwanderer!
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      I don't usually think, therefore I mostly am not.
      Quote Originally Posted by abicus View Post
      You can not convince the one with faith who needs not look for fact that the facts "prove them wrong".
      Likewise, you cant teach some one who looks for facts to have faith in the absence of facts.

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      Awesome! Glad to hear it! You can't have a lucid till you consistently have vivid dreams and good dream recall... and this sounds like a start!

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      I've found an IPhone app like this but with different settings and stuff for $1.99. Do you think I should use this instead of the app?

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      I would say that the OP is a member of the community. Also, this is free, not two dollars.

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      Thanks for this. I'm going to listen to V2.0 tonight and post the results in the morning. Hoping for a lucid but a vivid dream would be great also!

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      Remembered about two dreams but that is my usual. All I did was listen and then go to bed tho so I'm going to try it again with WBTB.

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      Last night I listened to V 2.0 three times in a row, followed by putting sine wave tone LD2 on repeat, while I slept all night. It continued to give me weird feelings every time I woke up. The third time I awoke within 5 minuets felt that sp feeling and rather than my normal loud as thunder sp, got very little feedback (the kind that scares most people). And instead received my first all voices sp. I can take all the sounds of over the top thunder and static, banging on walls ect, but when stuff that's not there starts talking at you while your frozen it's a little intimating. Made it through, but lost my lucidity quickly due to excitement. I have no doubts this file has had an effect on my dream recall and dream vividness, and I don't think it's just placebo. Also According to my sp: ad ad mill the pant.

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      I have listened the V2 track the last two nights and it worked nicely. I have 3 brief LD (the last one I had was a month ago) and it increased the recall, too. The only 'problem' (well, I wouldn't exactly call it a problem) is that sounds get scary sometimes.
      I'm going to continue listening it before going to bed and with WBTB (like I did the past nights) and let's see if it goes on working as fine as it did until now.

      Thanks, mindwanderer.

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      Quote Originally Posted by pointofbeing View Post
      followed by putting sine wave tone LD2 on repeat,
      Where can I find that file?
      I don't usually think, therefore I mostly am not.
      Quote Originally Posted by abicus View Post
      You can not convince the one with faith who needs not look for fact that the facts "prove them wrong".
      Likewise, you cant teach some one who looks for facts to have faith in the absence of facts.

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      Quote Originally Posted by kookyinc View Post
      Where can I find that file?
      You can create one yourself with Audacity. I'll search the internet for it anyway. I'll PM if i find something.

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      I listened to V2.0 last night, looped the track and listened to it before bedtime. I tried to do some autosuggestions (my lucid mantra) but it was difficult to concentrate on them with the tone playing, so I just tried to clear my mind and meditate on my breathing. After about 40 minutes of listening I turned it off so that I could go to sleep.

      No lucid dreams or particularly vivid ones, however my recall seemed better than normal this morning. I was able to recall an incredibly long, sprawling dream; the images just kept coming back to me after I woke up and started writing, going further and further back into dream time until I had recalled what seemed like a 5 hour dream. It's pretty unusual for me to remember dreams this long; events that happen earlier in the dream usually get lost. I've done binaural beats before but never isochrons - I'll probably be trying them again.

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      i'm going to try this tonight, 1 time right before i go to bed and 1 at the end of my wbtb.
      i used this before but i forgot what the results were, i didn't really pay attention ^^

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      I like your idea but am a little confused. My research indicates that REM sleep is a higher frequency, closer to 10 or 12 in fact. Can somebody please clarify.

      Also i wonder has anybody ever recorded brainwave frequencies during the lucid state. It seems REM frequency is quite close to the waking frequency. Perhaps to induce lucidity one could use isochronic tones too obtain a brainwave frequency between that of REM and awake states.
      Last edited by A.J.; 07-08-2010 at 10:37 PM.
      LD's approximately 20: always getting better

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      I'll try this and post my results tomorrow

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      Listened to V2 before going to bed. I remembered 3 very vivid dreams and I usually only remember 1-2. I had no lucid dreams because my reality checks were not working.

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