Thread: Is it possible to be my friends dream guide?

Originally Posted by saltyseedog

well Normally when i go into other peoples dreams. They will not really care and be happy to see me. If they don't want me there they will say something like why are you here??? This is a dream look at your hand. This isn't a dream wtf are you talking about??!!!
but really who the fuck cares it not that big of a deal. Kind of exaggerating it. I mean you dream of crazy random shit all the time anyways. Its not like your going to mess them up forever or anything. really I would advise not giving a shit and doing whatever you want because thats your right as a lucid dreamer to go in stupid nonlucid dreamers dreams. be free and have fun. If someone doesn't like that... maybe you should fight them! Just be free and do what you feel like. manners don't exist in dreams. Fuck manners those are physical world shit. for people who take everything to seriously. don't take things seriously in dreams. it is a dream!!!!! That is what dreams teach us. Stop taking everything so seriously and getting offended. Just be free and stop being a whiny bitch. it makes you see through the eyes of a dreamer all the time. being free and playful and care free. there is no reason to take everything so seriously all it does is makes yourself stressed out. You waste your energy being offended. Everything is a dream.

Lucid dreaming may be just a dream, but shared dreaming is more than that. You dont have to take things seriously but other people havent consented to sharing a dream with you so they may be taking things more seriously than you. Im not gonna argue with you because its obvious to me that I wont be able to convince you that other people deserve respect.

EDIT: and i dont see how im getting offended or being a whiny bitch by saying that you shouldnt invade peoples minds and fuck with them when they are most vulnerable.

I would suggest reading this http://www.dreamviews.com/f61/shared...-theory-94502/
I know it is just one persons opinion, but to me, it makes sense

lol Well fucking with peoples minds is pretty fucked up but you would be surprised how much that actually happens. not humans though. Other entities. They manipulate the consciousness of individuals and the collective consciousness. we are toyed with in our minds. We belong to a collective consciousness that is full of greed and hate. We open ourselves up to that. I wouldn't trip to much on going in peoples dreams though. I often get thrown in dreams randomly with other people anyways

Originally Posted by Atras

I would suggest reading this http://www.dreamviews.com/f61/shared...-theory-94502/
I know it is just one persons opinion, but to me, it makes sense

Ya I don't really care about Etiquette. See incubus.

Originally Posted by saltyseedog

lol Well fucking with peoples minds is pretty fucked up but you would be surprised how much that actually happens. not humans though. Other entities. They manipulate the consciousness of individuals and the collective consciousness. we are toyed with in our minds. We belong to a collective consciousness that is full of greed and hate. We open ourselves up to that. I wouldn't trip to much on going in peoples dreams though. I often get thrown in dreams randomly with other people anyways

Well i guess thats your choice.

Originally Posted by saltyseedog

Ya I don't really care about Etiquette. See incubus.

And wtf your comparing yourself with a demon that has sex with people in their sleep?

I wouldn't suggest doing that. Most people get freaked out and would call the priest if they heard a disembodied voice every so often or saw something let alone someone getting in there dreams. People like us are more used to very odd things so we sometimes don't get how other people would react. Imagine something happening to you against your will that defies all you where taught and know. Most peoples minds are very fragile to things that threaten there privacy and perception of reality.

Originally Posted by Osmodin

I wouldn't suggest doing that. Most people get freaked out and would call the priest if they heard a disembodied voice every so often or saw something let alone someone getting in there dreams. People like us are more used to very odd things so we sometimes don't get how other people would react. Imagine something happening to you against your will that defies all you where taught and know. Most peoples minds are very fragile to things that threaten there privacy and perception of reality.

exactly

naaa most people wouldn't even know its you in their dream because they are non lucid. really its not that serious unless you do something that seriously effects their own natural state of being. i think that it doesn't really matter. If they don't like you in their dreams it probably won't be enjoyable to dream with them anyways. if you don't like them you can give them nightmares. maybe they deserve it because they are assholes. do what feels right I dunno. I don't like morals. I want everyone to just be themselves. Listen to your heart and do what feels right in your heart. be yourself. don't be afraid to act from your heart. Morals are just beliefs created by your own mind on how to act in realtionship to whatever. But really do what feels right in your heart. let your heart be your moral guide.

Originally Posted by saltyseedog

naaa most people wouldn't even know its you in their dream because they are non lucid. really its not that serious unless you do something that seriously effects their own natural state of being. i think that it doesn't really matter. If they don't like you in their dreams it probably won't be enjoyable to dream with them anyways. if you don't like them you can give them nightmares. maybe they deserve it because they are assholes. do what feels right I dunno. I don't like morals. I want everyone to just be themselves. Listen to your heart and do what feels right in your heart. be yourself. don't be afraid to act from your heart. Morals are just beliefs created by your own mind on how to act in realtionship to whatever. But really do what feels right in your heart. let your heart be your moral guide.

My heart tells me to do what's right.

I quess it depends on what person you want to share a dream with. I think it would be cool to have another person as a dream guide, but I dunno how someone else would react about having another person in their dreams. It´s probably better to ask for permission.

Originally Posted by gameoverlord345

lol that sounds so mean :/

Sorry It wasn't supposed to be.

Originally Posted by Raspberry

Sorry It wasn't supposed to be.

lol np

Originally Posted by saltyseedog

naaa most people wouldn't even know its you in their dream because they are non lucid. really its not that serious unless you do something that seriously effects their own natural state of being. i think that it doesn't really matter. If they don't like you in their dreams it probably won't be enjoyable to dream with them anyways. if you don't like them you can give them nightmares. maybe they deserve it because they are assholes. do what feels right I dunno. I don't like morals. I want everyone to just be themselves. Listen to your heart and do what feels right in your heart. be yourself. don't be afraid to act from your heart. Morals are just beliefs created by your own mind on how to act in realtionship to whatever. But really do what feels right in your heart. let your heart be your moral guide.

i do have asshole 'friends' and i don't see how entering their dream is bad... won't they just think i'm a dream character? I just intend to have an adventure with them or something...

Originally Posted by saltyseedog

well Normally when i go into other peoples dreams. They will not really care and be happy to see me. If they don't want me there they will say something like why are you here??? This is a dream look at your hand. This isn't a dream wtf are you talking about??!!!
but really who the fuck cares it not that big of a deal. Kind of exaggerating it. I mean you dream of crazy random shit all the time anyways. Its not like your going to mess them up forever or anything. really I would advise not giving a shit and doing whatever you want because thats your right as a lucid dreamer to go in stupid nonlucid dreamers dreams. be free and have fun. If someone doesn't like that... maybe you should fight them! Just be free and do what you feel like. manners don't exist in dreams. Fuck manners those are physical world shit. for people who take everything to seriously. don't take things seriously in dreams. it is a dream!!!!! That is what dreams teach us. Stop taking everything so seriously and getting offended. Just be free and stop being a whiny bitch. it makes you see through the eyes of a dreamer all the time. being free and playful and care free. there is no reason to take everything so seriously all it does is makes yourself stressed out. You waste your energy being offended. Everything is a dream.

It's funny how you're the one whining when we're just looking out for other people.

To be honest I think you're just being selfish. Sure, play around in your own dreams and do whatever, but it's different when someone is alive there too.

Dreams can be terrifying and I'm not gonna start fucking with people through them and I advise anyone else not to either. Atras and I are just saying that to avoid any reactions, arguements etc, just to ask (even passively) if you can go into their dream before you do.

I don't consider that whining. I consider you to be whining though, saltyseedog. Hypocritical much?

Wait, isn't everyones dream one big dream world or do you like enter a portal to another persons dream....

I don't know, I don't know a lot about shared dreaming. But when it comes to real live people there are things you can and can't do.

Well, i said i'd ask him so i will

Originally Posted by saltyseedog

naaa most people wouldn't even know its you in their dream because they are non lucid. really its not that serious unless you do something that seriously effects their own natural state of being. i think that it doesn't really matter. If they don't like you in their dreams it probably won't be enjoyable to dream with them anyways. if you don't like them you can give them nightmares. maybe they deserve it because they are assholes. do what feels right I dunno. I don't like morals. I want everyone to just be themselves. Listen to your heart and do what feels right in your heart. be yourself. don't be afraid to act from your heart. Morals are just beliefs created by your own mind on how to act in realtionship to whatever. But really do what feels right in your heart. let your heart be your moral guide.

So we should all destroy what seperates us from the animals? Morals which keep us from harming others and ineffect bringing about caos. So we should live our lives doing things reguardless of how it effects others? We should say kick a toddler becasue it would be fun, becasue they deserve it for makeing a mean face? This is extreem but you get it dont you?

We as humans would not be able to exist without morals, without morals crime would be rampant on the streets and thus no order. Humanity compleety destroyed and us being turned into animals that fight and bicker amongst themselvs? Humanity is damaged enough as it is. Cerial killers follow thire hearts but it is wrong. People are fragille and easy to drive off the deep end. You just should not tamper with someones head. Giving someone nightmares is wrong, the right nightmare given to the wrong person could potentially harm them in more ways than one.

I doubt you could even enter someones dreams any way. It takes mental discaplin to concentrait on that and you clearly have no discaplin.

Originally Posted by Raspberry

It's funny how you're the one whining when we're just looking out for other people.

To be honest I think you're just being selfish. Sure, play around in your own dreams and do whatever, but it's different when someone is alive there too.

Dreams can be terrifying and I'm not gonna start fucking with people through them and I advise anyone else not to either. Atras and I are just saying that to avoid any reactions, arguements etc, just to ask (even passively) if you can go into their dream before you do.

I don't consider that whining. I consider you to be whining though, saltyseedog. Hypocritical much?

Thanks! Agreed

we are animals foo!!!! Disregarding our natural animalistic state has caused all this chaos on earth. Look around!!! Look how fucked up everything is!!!! We are destroying ourselves and the earth!!!! We are greedy and horde and fight wars out of self importance and disagreement on religious morals and shit. It is soo stupid. animals would never do that! they wouldn't kill each other over disagreement of beliefs or to horde and and not share. Animals take what they need, but they are not full of greed and self importance. Nor do they hate others. They get angry. They get angry at behaviors that hurt them or the ones they love. They get angry when they are not free. They express what they feel. we are like domesticated dogs. can you imagine a wolf being put on leash and going with it? No! he would flip out and squirm around trying to break free and then run as fast as he can to get away or die trying. We have become domesticated. they train us so we obey. They train us so they have control. they don't want us to flip out and run away. they don't want us to listen to our hearts. They want us to listen to our minds. we are living in an unnatural state. A state where we believe ourselves separate from nature. We are not though. we are one with nature. we are one with humanity. we are one with ourselves. we do not know that though. We live in our belief of separation. Believing that I start here and you start there. Rather than we are all one and all interconnected. No matter what you do I will love you because you are my brother. You are a part of the family I belong to called humanity. But it doesn't mean I'm not going to get pissed when you act like an asshole to me.

Originally Posted by saltyseedog

we are animals foo!!!! Disregarding our natural animalistic state has caused all this chaos on earth. Look around!!! Look how fucked up everything is!!!! We are destroying ourselves and the earth!!!! We are greedy and horde and fight wars out of self importance and disagreement on religious morals and shit. It is soo stupid. animals would never do that! they wouldn't kill each other over disagreement of beliefs or to horde and and not share. Animals take what they need, but they are not full of greed and self importance. Nor do they hate others. They get angry. They get angry at behaviors that hurt them or the ones they love. They get angry when they are not free. They express what they feel. we are like domesticated dogs. can you imagine a wolf being put on leash and going with it? No! he would flip out and squirm around trying to break free and then run as fast as he can to get away or die trying. We have become domesticated. they train us so we obey. They train us so they have control. they don't want us to flip out and run away. they don't want us to listen to our hearts. They want us to listen to our minds. we are living in an unnatural state. A state where we believe ourselves separate from nature. We are not though. we are one with nature. we are one with humanity. we are one with ourselves. we do not know that though. We live in our belief of separation. Believing that I start here and you start there. Rather than we are all one and all interconnected. No matter what you do I will love you because you are my brother. You are a part of the family I belong to called humanity. But it doesn't mean I'm not going to get pissed when you act like an asshole to me.

Wow your contradicting yourself. The people that are destroying the earth and being greedy and shit dont have morals! If everyone followed morals, True morals, then there would be peace. If everyone was tolerant of eachother and didnt do things because it only is good for themselves there wouldnt be chaos. Your just trying to make excuses to do whatever you want but your just contradicting everything your saying and making no sense. I know your getting all these ideas from that strange satanistic belief you follow but dude Its messed up.

EDIT: When i say morals I'm not talking about constraints that religion sets on society, I'm talking about doing whats right because its right.

Originally Posted by Atras

Wow your contradicting yourself. The people that are destroying the earth and being greedy and shit dont have morals! If everyone followed morals, True morals, then there would be peace. If everyone was tolerant of eachother and didnt do things because it only is good for themselves there wouldnt be chaos. Your just trying to make excuses to do whatever you want but your just contradicting everything your saying and making no sense. I know your getting all these ideas from that strange satanistic belief you follow but dude Its messed up.

EDIT: When i say morals I'm not talking about constraints that religion sets on society, I'm talking about doing whats right because its right.

You stole what i was gonna say lol.

Oh my, first, you have to assume SDing is real. If it is, you have to give your own description of a DG, based on what you think a DG is, it might be harmful or not. Then what kind of person it is and all that, and make even more assumptions based on that.

Also, on the morals thing, morals are not universal nor objetive, it changes from person to person and age to age, so at least use "in this day and age" or something.

Originally Posted by Atras

Wow your contradicting yourself. The people that are destroying the earth and being greedy and shit dont have morals! If everyone followed morals, True morals, then there would be peace. If everyone was tolerant of eachother and didnt do things because it only is good for themselves there wouldnt be chaos. Your just trying to make excuses to do whatever you want but your just contradicting everything your saying and making no sense. I know your getting all these ideas from that strange satanistic belief you follow but dude Its messed up.

EDIT: When i say morals I'm not talking about constraints that religion sets on society, I'm talking about doing whats right because its right.

Morals are held out of the belief of seperation though. Have respect for someone elses boundries. But in reality boundries only exist because you believe they do. we are all one. We are all connected. we all have access to each others dreams (unless you intend someone not to be). we are free. Morals they keep pushing seperation. seperation is the illusion. It is the illusion that exists only so we may become one again. seperation is why anybody does not have respect for anothers well being. I know that sounds contradicting. Sometimes people deserve an ass whooping though. if they didn't get it they would just keep going around acting like an asshole to everyone. You feel it in your heart. express it!!!! to serve god is to serve yourself. to serve yourself is to listen to your heart. when you listen to your heart your desire is to do whatever for the greater good of the one. because we are all one. If you feel like lashing out and killing everyone, maybe thats because you listen to your heart and look around and everyone hates each other and sees one another as seperate? maybe thats what makes them go crazy. maybe they went crazy from there own thoughts of hate. either way, you should express yourself. For that is who you are. be yourself. don't live a lie.

Also I'm not satanist just cause I made a thread about satanism. I'm not like omg I'm just regeritating satanic crap. This came from my heart bitch.