Salvia Divinorum: can somone relate the difference between Lucid Dreaming and Salvia

[Wrighty]

I did Salvia for the First time yesterday and i lost control of my body, I was in 2 places at once and i also went into my sitters body and was her for a few seconds then went back into my body and was like this isnt reality. i then went through my sofa with me eyes closed still, there was people everywhere and was strapped next to eachother inlcuding me revolving round ln some other reality Its weird as hell also the colouring was like salvia itself that greenish colour and that earthy look to it. Now what i need to know because i dont no for shore is Does lucid Dreaming have the same sort of effect meaning that can you control it say your fears, so lets say you have a bad salvia trip and see a freakish monster can you control it to stop your fear? just like in a lucid dream a monster comes at you and you just tear it apart lol or hug it and it rather dies or becomes freindly you can stop the fear right there

[rkenning]

i doubt it maybe after a lot of practise but it would take a lot of mental power

[whiterain]

I did Salvia for the First time yesterday and i lost control of my body, I was in 2 places at once and i also went into my sitters body and was her for a few seconds then went back into my body and was like this isnt reality. i then went through my sofa with me eyes closed still, there was people everywhere and was strapped next to eachother inlcuding me revolving round ln some other reality Its weird as hell also the colouring was like salvia itself that greenish colour and that earthy look to it. Now what i need to know because i dont no for shore is Does lucid Dreaming have the same sort of effect meaning that can you control it say your fears, so lets say you have a bad salvia trip and see a freakish monster can you control it to stop your fear? just like in a lucid dream a monster comes at you and you just tear it apart lol or hug it and it rather dies or becomes freindly you can stop the fear right there yes mate the only problem is that salvia also seems to do other things to your consciousness which may make you unable to become lucid or realise that you have control. for instance whenever i take it, i completely forget that ive taken it and everything that goes with it. basically it does take you into a dream realm, but these days i cant really see what the benefit of it is if you can already lucid dream. certainly forces the third eye? open though. i can hear a click in my head when it happens sometimes glad you didnt have a bad time. so many trip reports are of people being absolutely terrified, but i guess that is just a consequence of the poor health of many of our subconscious minds. try 'smoking it' when already in a lucid dream. its much more fun for me and had an awesome experience that i wrote up in the dream drugs thread

[Wrighty]

i think one of the main reasons people shit them selves in the trip[ is because they take it in the wrong enviroment!! mine was 10x i dont wanna have a mega hit just more for spiritualism purpose it was very unique but i knew i was still in the room because i told my bro and his mate to piss off because they were laffing before it started and just had one sitter in the room and yh wow was crazy!! being to places at once reality+ another reality however i was unwilling saying things and doing stupid movements lol and alot of laffing!! afterwards i quietend down and was pausing when i was speakin and found it hard to move but wow!! wont be trying that for awhile i feel totally different and stress free right now piece dude

[whiterain]

i think one of the main reasons people shit them selves in the trip[ is because they take it in the wrong enviroment!! mine was 10x i dont wanna have a mega hit just more for spiritualism purpose it was very unique but i knew i was still in the room because i told my bro and his mate to piss off because they were laffing before it started and just had one sitter in the room and yh wow was crazy!! being to places at once reality+ another reality however i was unwilling saying things and doing stupid movements lol and alot of laffing!! afterwards i quietend down and was pausing when i was speakin and found it hard to move but wow!! wont be trying that for awhile i feel totally different and stress free right now piece dude great to hear mate sounds like you had a good one. how did it compare to a wild for you? did you see reality melt away? in mine its like some other dimension comes rolling through the room and picks me up with it then spits me out the other side its not the kind of thing you would do very often i guess. hell ive had mine for about 2 years and tried it 3 or 4 times

[guitarboy]

When I took it recently, I knew for a fact that I had taken it and that I was off in some other land.I couldn't control myself at all, even when trying to get up. I couldn't manipulate the hallucination either, but it wasn't really anything visual. It's hard to explain. It was only 30x though, so it ended pretty quickly.

[dreamstatelogic]

i've had some great experiences with salvia. never have been able to control the trip though, i find the LSD trip much easier to find control ... has anyone here had any experience with DMT?

[Wrighty]

naw iv never tried lsd or dmt im too scared too lol pls they can mess you up yh you can definatly feel your self being hit by another reality!! xD

[darklight101]

Salvia could be used as a dream amplificator?

[Dthoughts]

first time i tried smoking just a pinch of salvia as a "dream aid" and before i noticed the room slipping away i was in some salvia place. you completely forget about smoking anything so forget about being really lucid. but suprisingly i remember being very clear-headed during the whole experience. it's very weird and intense and it took about 5 minutes. after i came back it was just very hilarious when i realized what just happened. it's like being pranked. This experience i had is very common and happens to most people. It's far from the deeper realms salvia can take you tho. I'm pretty sure the things that can happen to you on salvia are of such nature that controlling it is out of the question but if things get too heavy or scary you could just ask sally for something lighter. It worked for me atleast.