Update. I've just took another nap with the orgonite and nothing happened this time around. I did dream but don't even remember enough for a DJ. Could of just been that the first time was a fluke. I am extremely sick now though. Migraine, coughing up mucus/phlegm, general weakness, stuffy runny nose, ect. I was surprised I was even able to sleep. I haven't been this sick in a very long time. I still believe it's a healing crisis but none the less, I fell like crap. |
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You'd be surprised. Most people that have experiences with orgonite describe the same thing. We call it the "vibrational flu." Hahaha You can check out the link to see a website that describes everything from my new sleep patterns, I've been sleeping in 3 hour blocks, to my healing crisis. All explainable. Plus my sore throat has nearly went away so I'm getting better and worse at the same time. Haha |
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mmmm for something like that , we could try wiring ourselves with a 9v batery and going to sleep |
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Um, given the plethora of LD'ing techniques, machines, etc, that are available, does it really make sense to use a device that makes you sick? |
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Well, actually it is still "pseudoscience" what i am doing in this field because there are no "true" scientific devices out there yet to serve any objective data. the whole measurements were all of subjective nature but this doesnt matter to me since i am proud of getting positive results. |
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Last edited by Erii; 05-03-2012 at 10:24 PM. Reason: mergin
This is the first time I have come across rose quartz being useful for inducing lucidity. So last night I charged and programmed a piece of rose quartz that I have. I slept with it under my pillow. I had plenty of dreams in my regular sleep and with WBTB but I didn't achieve lucidity. |
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Please click on the links below, more techniques under investigation to come soon...
Surprisingly, using a 9v battery to power lemurian crystals or just plain Brazilian Quartz has yielded amazing results when accomplished using an in line 15mhz frequency generator wrapped around the crystal with a mobius coil. Basically the 9v battery powers the frequency generator and that generator then uses the mobius coil to activate the crystals natural energy, or thereby "amplifying" the energy the crystal already has available. I've never tried myself but all who said they have say it works extremely well. I don't know the exact science but that's the way I understand it. |
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The device doesn't really make you sick. The temporary sickness can be compared to that of taking "detox" products that give you diarrhea, throw up, ect. The only difference is, orgonites detox effect seems to be much more profound and noticeable. I'm finally starting to feel better. Still feel a bit under the weather but definitely better now then the day before. Haha |
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There is 2 classes of orgonite. Original orgonite was made with just layers of metal and resin. The "new gen" orgonite is typically now made with the addition of crystals. When speaking of piezoelectricity, I am doing so in describing the "new gen" orgonite. Piezoelectric qualities have been proven in crystals. When force is exerted on crystals, energy in the form of electricity is actually created. Mind you in extremely small quantities, but nevertheless actually there. When resin in liquid form hardens, it actually compresses. This compression is what activates the piezoelectric qualities of crystals. This compression is what is supposed to make the crystal "amplify" it's energy. It also seems to be noted that while in a mixture of orgonite, may it be the metal inside, or perhaps a combination of the metal and resin, the crystal is boosted furthermore then just that of the natural compression exerted on the crystal. |
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I heard golden yellow danburite works the best of any crystal for lucid dreaming, especially in combination with Scolecite or Seraphinite. I will be trying to get my hands on all these crystals and be combining them into one piece of orgonite. If anything could possibly guarantee lucidity, this combo of crystals should be it. |
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So, things like diarrhea, vomiting, etc do not equal being sick? In your book, maybe; not most others'. I really don't think that is a very good selling point for orgonite; most people have little interest -- rightfully so -- in even the shortest periods of "side effects." You might consider downplaying the detox angle a bit! |
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Have you ever taken a colon cleansing product? Not fun stuff if you have. Haha Any sort of detox product gives you the appearance of being sick but all it is just the detox effect taking place. They are not side effects but is actually the intention of the product. When your body rids itself of toxins, those toxins were in fact the same things that made you sick from an earlier period. So aggravating these toxins gives then one more shot to ravage you before your body expels them. Just the process of cleaning out your body tires you out immensely, let alone what toxins may be unearthed one last time to take a bite out of your immune system on it's way out. Haha This is termed as a "healing crisis." The same effect takes place with orgonite, only stronger. But once it's over you feel better than you ever had before. Even though I'm still feel pretty sick I already feel stronger and more clear headed then I did before. Almost like a "fog" has been lifted. Seems hard to describe. |
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^^ I was never much of a fan of colon-cleansing either, but I do understand your point, Bogalu. I look forward to your post-healing-crisis report... |
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Interesting. I combined a herkimer diamond, amethyst and another stone that I can't remember the name of. Works well at amplifying my intent. However if my initial intent isn't that strong then no lucids for me. Interestingly if I have the correct level of intent and I don't use the crystals then no lucids, but with the stones it works really well to bring multiple lucid dreams per night. |
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Please click on the links below, more techniques under investigation to come soon...
I guess this is a bit of a bump, but I ordered one of these things last week and it came in today. I haven't noticed anything too special about it just yet, but I'll be posting results here if I have any. |
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My dreams are posted here from now on: Into the Depths
While I haven't ever used orgonite, I have heard that it is generally a terrible idea to sleep in their proximity. Based on my limited understanding of energy work, this makes sense. |
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Last edited by RationalMystic; 03-10-2012 at 05:37 AM.
For the curious... I never made a follow-up post because I never had any results. There was no boost to my lucid dreaming or even recall. Then again, I didn't have any physical illness symptoms either. It was as if the thing was never even there. Basically a waste of money, but at least it looks kinda cool. |
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My dreams are posted here from now on: Into the Depths
In any "alternate medicine", one must be wary of snake oil merchents. Look up the mechanics of orgone. If you think the idea holds possible weight, build a device yourself. They aren't that difficult to make and if it doesn't work, at least you can publicly refute an idea without second thoughts and thats a privilage thats greater then you think. |
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I'm still in college, so I don't really have a spot to mix all this stuff together, nor the time. I don't know if the principles make sense to me because I've never done anything with crystals on their own, either. Perhaps in 6 months' time I can come back to it, but like you I'm preoccupied with other things for now. |
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My dreams are posted here from now on: Into the Depths
Bogalu, could you put up a photo of your orgonite here? |
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