Thread: PSI abilities, ARE THEY REAL!?!

While this isn't exactly a psi ability, anyone ever hear of CSE, the Cavernous structures effect? I can't help but feel there is some link between the two.

Grebennikov built detectors for torsion-wave energy that were relatively similar to Kozyrev’s, albeit far less complex. The key to remember here again is that these spiraling waves do exert a subtle pressure on physical matter that is detectable with sensitive instruments:

I have managed to devise instruments for an objective registration of the CSE, which react accurately to the proximity of insect nests during all this time. Here they are in the drawings. They are sealed [glass] vessels with straws, burnt twigs or drawing coals suspended on spider web threads in them, with some water on the bottom countering the effects of static electricity, which hinders such experiments in dry air. If you point an old wasp nest, a bee honeycomb or a bunch of cereal ears at the upper end of the indicator, it turns slowly a few dozen degrees around. This is no miracle… Those who have doubts are welcome to visit the Agroecology Museum near Novosibirsk and see it all for themselves…

I swiped that passage from here http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/es...ecosmos_11.htm

Note the part about the water in the jar to counter static. That would probably be a good idea for any sealed psiwheel experiment.

I can't help but be confused at you guys. You're all here, supporting psi abilities, many of you even claiming to have them yourselves. However, only a single one of you has presented any actual evidence.

Yes, we've decided that video evidence proves nothing. However, I would still love to see more videos of this stuff, even if I just have to take your word for it. Why are you people so unwilling to just record these events?

Originally Posted by thegnome54

Have you tried they key, string, dice force, card force, or psi wheel tests, and have you had any success? Just out of curiosity.

Yes. For quite some time I could move the psi wheel which ever direction I wished, and at the same time freaked out many of my fellow class mates (this was at school... nobody excepted I wasn't faking it, dispite my efforts).

During this time I became very depressed due to being alone in my quest to discover the mysteries of what we call "consciousness". This ended, along with my psionics studys, when I switched schools and was introduced to the world pf psychedelics. After my first experience on marijuana I had found an excape from the harsh reality of life and began using everyday. I quit praticing psionics during this time, but never forgot about them. After my first DXM experience I realized that psychedelic drugs were directly connected to higher states of consciousness and ego loss. I would go on and off practicing TK but found that no advancement would be possible when I was stoned all the time. I had almost forgotten about psionics when I reached the worse point of my addiction. I was incrediably depressed, I was loosing faith in psionics and although I had see and done things myself, it was not enough proof. I felt like a priest who had lost god, and I was far to lost in haze of marijuana to find it again. I lost myself in my depression, stopped going to school, and eventually was sent off to rehabilitation. It was those three months in rehabilitation that I would consider to be the wierdest three months I've ever experienced up to now. The story would be a long one if I were to type it up right now, so I'm going to cut it down drastically. I went there, sobered up, made many close friends, and, most importantly, experienced telekinesis, telepathy, spirit communication and love as I have never experienced it before. It was a major turning point in my life, although it didn't physically manifest into my personality until about a year after I got out. During that year I started smoking lots and lots of weed again, and eventually dwelved into the most dangerous addiction I've ever been through: The Devil's Ether. But unlike before, I never lost hope, and never forgot about what happened during those three months, although many times through the own haze of my drug use I wondered if those three months even happened, or if I was crazy. It took a mind blowing OBE to allow me to fully except those three months, aand after that I finally had found some peace. After that OBE my entire psyche excepted the reality of collective consciousness and psionics 100%, which also changed me a great deal. I practiced on and off, but it never really worked out. I was just smoking way to much weed, you know? But I got it strait through my mind that my drug abuse would have to stop, abruptly, before I could persue life's mysteries seriously and take my psionic and meditation practice seriously also. I made a decision at the start of the summer, a decision that still stands strong today. Come end of summer (getting nearer, nearer and nearer...) I will stop using drugs in lesuire and abuse, and begin my sober journey into the realms of the unknown. I have learned much throughout my drug use and don't regret a single bit of it, besides perhaps the ether (now thats one HELL of a drug!). I have learnt the rolls that psychedelics play in spiritual developement, and will never completely stop using them. In moderation these psychoactives can be extremely benificial by allowing you to shed your ego and view things on a whole new spectrum, and in certain cases access realms beyond that of the physical, but in abuse they can make you loose your mind, quite literally.

The end of summer is near and I just got a webcam. I'll do my best to provide you with a variety of different videos, but not until the time comes (I won't revolve my practice to providing the public with "proof", this is not some game, I'm doing this for myself and right now, I'm just not ready to provide anybody with videos and whatnot, I don't have the proper skill yet). I don't think I'll even bother filming any psi wheel demonstrations, as they show nothing, plus I've got a few ideas of my own.

Ops... sorry, I'm rambling. I just want all the skeptics to know why I can't provide them with any videos at the moment. I just don't have the skill to do so, videos aren't worth taking unless I can do something worth filming... and just because I'm not currently in tune with my telekinentic ability at the moment, doesn't mean I haven't been in the past, and certaintly does not mean I haven't had enough experience to make the claims I do.

But, on the other hand, maybe tonight I'll try to capture a psi ball on film (I am good with psiballs). I just dosed up on some San Pedro and it does a wonder with energy work .

whoa....i just had a crazy psi experience....i tried moving a pen acroos the table with my mind...after about 10 mins i only tried it with the lid and i still couldnt do it so i got really angry and threw the lid across the room...i couldnt be bothered to go picking it up so i didnt...then i went on youtube to watch a music video and went to write the name of it down with that pen only to find that the lid was back on it....so basically what i wanted to do was what i did but didnt mean to???

Originally Posted by the real pieman

whoa....i just had a crazy psi experience....i tried moving a pen acroos the table with my mind...after about 10 mins i only tried it with the lid and i still couldnt do it so i got really angry and threw the lid across the room...i couldnt be bothered to go picking it up so i didnt...then i went on youtube to watch a music video and went to write the name of it down with that pen only to find that the lid was back on it....so basically what i wanted to do was what i did but didnt mean to???

The key to telekinesis is not to actually concentrate to hard on the object. You must only gently focus on it. Don't strain yourself. There have been many instances where people try TK and don't suceed (because they concentrate to hard), and when they give up what ever they were trying to move does.

Remember, relax, focus, don't strain yourself. Just focus, gently, and trance out a little bit. If your tense and trying to hard then it probably won't work. You'll notice that when it comes to telekinesis, you have to be in a very relaxed state for it to work.

Good read, wer. Can you make a visible psi-ball? :O

All these people who claim that just because science hasn't proved psi abilities, then they don't exist are driving me nuts. I have to assume they just don't know about science. Hiscorically, every major breakthrough was met with ridicule and skepticism.

But the main problem with science, is that it has two sets of rules, one for the macroscopic level, and another for the quantum level. This means we have it wrong somewhere. Any Unified Theory offers endless explanations for how these things might work.

And then there is the fact that just about every great scientist of renown was neck deep in Aether theories and/or sacred geometry. Einsten, Newton, Copernicus, Davinci, just about everybody.

Actually, make that just about every historical figure you ever learned about in school. All the philosophers, Aristotle, Plato and on. All the good conquerors, Napolean, Alexander the Great, Hitler. All the great artists and composers.

Where was I going with this? You can't trivialize psi abilities into useless skills such as pushing paper around. There are larger implications, it's a path to greatness. It's so blatantly obvious everywhere you look, it's mind boggling how people can choose not to see it. Like the SEP field from Hitchhiker's guide to the galaxy or something.

I succesfully made a psi wheel!! It was crazy. I thought it was just a breeze so I covered in under a glass bowl and I can still do it. It's so weird.

Originally Posted by BohmaN

Good read, wer. Can you make a visible psi-ball? :O

I have before. I have not been able to give them color or anything, but I have made one so strong that I could see a faint, translucent static type stuff moving between my hands (note that this wasn't the natural static you see all the time on your vision, this was moving and much thicker).

I just had a really weird experience. I was bored and supposed to be doing Maths coursework so I did the natural thing and made a psi-wheel. The funny thing was that I got it to spin twice. I removed my hand to make sure that it was in fact me. I was also wearing a surgical mask to prevent any breath going on it. I must say I'm still sceptical though. I repeated the results, once. I also tried doing it under a glass bowl and failed. I think wer is right about the not concentrating thing though. Both times I did I was just thinking, "Wtf's going on?" Rather than, "SPIN DAMN YOU SPIN!!!". How very odd.

[EDIT] Not really psychic stuff but I just sang the same song my sister had in her head. Quite a coincedence.

Originally Posted by goldney

[EDIT] Not really psychic stuff but I just sang the same song my sister had in her head. Quite a coincedence.

What do you mean that wasn't really psychic stuff? That was telepathy. You experienced the natural connection between consciousness. Stuff like that happens all the time, its well documented.

Originally Posted by wer

What do you mean that wasn't really psychic stuff? That was telepathy. You experienced the natural connection between consciousness. Stuff like that happens all the time, its well documented.

If telepathy was true, he would sing the exact song every time.

What happened is a combination of coincidence and subconscious thought. For example, and ambiguous sound could have reminded them both o the same song. Nothing special about it, really.

Lastly: well documented? Where? please show me

Originally Posted by Kromoh

If telepathy was true, he would sing the exact song every time.

What happened is a combination of coincidence and subconscious thought. For example, and ambiguous sound could have reminded them both o the same song. Nothing special about it, really.

Lastly: well documented? Where? please show me

Tusk tusk. You know absolutely nothing about telepathy. It happened unconsciously, a phenomena related to the collective unconscious. You have no idea what your talking about.

There have been thousands of documented cases of people having seemingly random telepathic experiences. Look it up.

Yeah, I don't believe in telepathy or anything like that, I agree with Kromoh on this one. It did happen to be the tune from an advert that's been playing recently as well.

Originally Posted by goldney

Yeah, I don't believe in telepathy or anything like that, I agree with Kromoh on this one. It did happen to be the tune from an advert that's been playing recently as well.

Ah, I see. I do however believe many of these type of events relate to telepathy, other do indeed fall into coincidence.

Wow, that was kinda weird. I tried making a psi ball, and I think I actually made one. It was weird, at first I tried making one but I got really tired right away and felt like I had no energy. I took a lighter and imagined absorbing energy I actually felt better, tried again, and I think I made one. It might just be my imaginition, but still, its weird!

Originally Posted by wer

Tusk tusk. You know absolutely nothing about telepathy. It happened unconsciously, a phenomena related to the collective unconscious.

Fallacy: if it was unconscious, he would never have sung it.
My argument: study of the subconscious can prove what I mentioned before right.

Originally Posted by wer

You have no idea what your talking about.

Since this is based on the first fallacy I will disconsider this

Originally Posted by wer

There have been thousands of documented cases of people having seemingly random telepathic experiences. Look it up.

Look it up? Where? I want something scientifical, not some neo-christian site that keeps beating around the bush.

Originally Posted by Kromoh

Fallacy: if it was unconscious, he would never have sung it.
My argument: study of the subconscious can prove what I mentioned before right.

It was unconscious on both ends. There's a theory called the collective unconscious by a very smart man named Charles Jung. Sure he was consciously singing the song, but telepathy is possible because in theory, you don't have to actually "send" the thought to another person because there is no reason to. Your already unconsciously connected in the first place.

Originally Posted by Kromoh

Look it up? Where? I want something scientifical, not some neo-christian site that keeps beating around the bush.

Theres a book called "The Sense of being Stared at" by Rupert Sheldrake, a very well educated man whom is anything but a crazed religious idiot. He site is located here.

Originally Posted by wer

a very smart man named Charles Jung.

Is that Carl Jung, because if it is he also believed in ghosts and the paranormal. Just giving people some more background on what to base their opinions.

Originally Posted by goldney

Is that Carl Jung, because if it is he also believed in ghosts and the paranormal. Just giving people some more background on what to base their opinions.

IF Psi powers really exist wouldn't it be obvious Paranormal and ghosts exist? I mean think about it. Its just, obvious if we can have psi powers, anything is possible.

It isn't so much that I don't believe in someone's ability to read the future. It's more to the point in wondering why the hell would you want to?

Originally Posted by Xyn

IF Psi powers really exist wouldn't it be obvious Paranormal and ghosts exist? I mean think about it. Its just, obvious if we can have psi powers, anything is possible.

So you assume that because "psi-powers" exist therefore the paranormal must as well. That's one mighty big leap to make, with literally no evidence to back it up. It seems that you're saying because one branch of new-age thinking exists they all must.

Originally Posted by goldney

Is that Carl Jung, because if it is he also believed in ghosts and the paranormal. Just giving people some more background on what to base their opinions.

My mistake, yes it was Carl Jung.

Whats so bad about believing in that?

Originally Posted by goldney

So you assume that because "psi-powers" exist therefore the paranormal must as well. That's one mighty big leap to make, with literally no evidence to back it up. It seems that you're saying because one branch of new-age thinking exists they all must.

No, ghosts and stuff are not proven by psionics, but astral projection and OBEs are a different story...