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      I would like to hear about ppl with spn powers i think that when i was small not only was i more aware (relived the feeling during day awareness) but as if when i wanted something to happen it happened like telling the rain to stop and after some seconds it would stop . I now think this was all in my mind or something but i would like to hear stories of others that bypasses explanation . (dont bother yourselves with premonition/precognitive because i believe in it)

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      Quote Originally Posted by wana View Post
      I would like to hear about ppl with spn powers i think that when i was small not only was i more aware (relived the feeling during day awareness) but as if when i wanted something to happen it happened like telling the rain to stop and after some seconds it would stop . I now think this was all in my mind or something but i would like to hear stories of others that bypasses explanation . (dont bother yourselves with premonition/precognitive because i believe in it)
      When I was younger like in 8th grade, I think I was telepathic, cause a thing would happen like at least 20 times a day where I would think something, and then a couple seconds later someone would say that. Over time it stopped happening though. During that time I got really into that stuff and looked it up and stuff and came upon a website that claimed to teach telekinesis and stuff. None of it ever worked, except for one. I used to be an altar server which is like a person who helps the priest in the catholic religion, and I was holding a candle, and I willed it to go out, and then it went out. That's all the experiences I've had but they stopped as I got older.

      EDIT: also I can see people's aura. I don't know if that's considered a power or not because anyone can do it if they try.
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      Performing dream control techniques (or super powers) in waking life is definitely beyond dreaming and highly advanced stuff if it does exist. Which i feel it does on some level. There are documented cases of physic powers, levitation, telekensis etc. The easy most common answer is no you cant have superpowers in waking life. However you cant deny the special cases where the supernatural has occurred. Personally my wife seems to make the weather change when ever she feels like, mostly rain which is an example of dream control. We laugh about when she does it and then pretty much write it off as luck but deep down i wonder how much of it was luck and not pure creation like in a lucid dream. namaste.


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      I've had experiences where when the powers of concentration, and empty minded-ness are great enough, that I have been able to move a psy-wheel, or move/blow out a flame. I had this guide in a book called "Our Ultimate Reality". Many things rang true in that book, and it has some amazing things in it. I've also had many experiences where I was thinking of saying something, but didn't, then someone else said it, but I think that people sometimes begin to think the same way as others. There's my 2 cents.

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      Quote Originally Posted by dreamcatcher81 View Post
      Performing dream control techniques (or super powers) in waking life is definitely beyond dreaming and highly advanced stuff if it does exist. Which i feel it does on some level. There are documented cases of physic powers, levitation, telekensis etc. The easy most common answer is no you cant have superpowers in waking life. However you cant deny the special cases where the supernatural has occurred. Personally my wife seems to make the weather change when ever she feels like, mostly rain which is an example of dream control. We laugh about when she does it and then pretty much write it off as luck but deep down i wonder how much of it was luck and not pure creation like in a lucid dream. namaste.
      I do believe that super powers exist in waking life. Is it just luck that the flame went out when I willed it to?

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      If you say you blew out a candle with your mind i believe you, thats your experience, and it motivates me to do something supernatural like u did, its just that until i have a experience like yours on a personal level i remain objective to supernatural powers.
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      I do believe that super powers exist in waking life. Is it just luck that the flame went out when I willed it to?


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      Guys i just want testimonies and yes aura seing is a SuperNaturalPower snp and can you tell us here how you manages to do it because i believe if dream sharing is possible (if the shared dreaming thread experiment suceeds) then that snp wouls be usefull
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      Quote Originally Posted by wana View Post
      Guys i just want testimonies and yes aura seing is a SuperNaturalPower snp and can you tell us here how you manages to do it because i believe if dream sharing is possible (if the shared dreaming thread experiment suceeds) then that snp wouls be usefull
      Seeing auras is pretty simple. You just stare at a point on a persons body, preferably like the middle of their forehead, and then just keep your vision focused on that one point, but also notice the rest of their body. Eventually you will see them start to glow and that glow is their aura. People have layers of aura, when I used to do it alot more I would be able to see the different layers but I havent done it in a while so right now I can only see the base layer which tends to be a blue-ish colors. According to online sources, different colors means different moods, I'm not sure if that's true or not but who knows.

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      Powers or 'abilities' are very much real. I'l tell you that much
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      Atras: I would count seeing auras as a special ability, if you're able to get any actual information about a person that way. I can't see auras, and I doubt its just because I haven't tried. Not everybody's wired up quite the same. A question I have is whether you're seeing something that's actually where you see it, or if you're feeling the person's mind and then projecting the aura onto your visual field in reflection of what you feel. One reason that interests me, is its relevant to the question of whether astral matter is actual exotic matter, or whether its a mental representation of something else. To illustrate something of what I mean, visual light doesn't have color either. Our eyes detect different wavelengths, then our brains form a color map in response to what our eyes detected. But the color is not in the light. I'm speculating that color itself is astral, that we're using that part of ourselves to model wavelengths of light, but I'm guessing about that. Similarly, I'm thinking that the experience of sound is likely astral also. When we experience a sound as being in a particular location, we're projecting a probable origin of vibrations onto an internal map of our surrounding environment. The actual vibrations that reach our ears are quite a bit different than the experience of sound, most of us just never pay much attention to that. Anyway, anything that you can tell me by thinking about your experience is of interest to me, since I can't do my own experiments since I don't see auras.


      Rhetorical question for other people who think they can do stuff like control the weather: How do you know the weather is responding to you, as opposed your subconscious getting a premonition of what's going to happen, and then suggesting to you what you 'want' based on what it knows is probably going to happen anyway?

      Brain scans show that most people have already decided something prior to being conscious of making a decision. This fits my experience also. My feeling of having choice is a mental of model of the power I have, its not a direct awareness of what power I actually have. I say that because I can consciously alter the model, and experience myself as having far more or far less choice without changing my actual choice. Similarly, when I ask a question, and my subconscious responds with an answer, often I can tell that it was my subconscious that suggested the question to start with.

      I'm not doubting that people have the power to change things psychically, I'm sure that they do. I'm just drawing attention to this potential cause of confusion. I've had this in my dreams also, where I experience myself as causing an event which later happens in the waking world, but I think that I'm not actually causing it, I'm just temporarily shifting my sense of identity to the fate, so to speak, that does cause it.

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      After learning about chi, activating my third eye and then having many astral experiences, I have come to not question the existence of supernatural abilities. I can see auras easily if the lighting conditions are right, if not I can focus more on it and I can see it. In addition to auras I also see orbs of all shapes and sizes during my day to day life. I also have a remarkable ability to "feel" things, like peoples emotion, intentions, or anything that I choose to really. I have also heard of many other people who have done similar things as me and there is plenty of cases out there on the internet, if you know where to look.

      Funny story about willing the weather to stop, one day my uncle and I went to pick up a new couch and the weather was getting nasty. I was just along to help move the couch, but my uncle kept mentioning a tarp to cover it. I thought it would be fine, and after we picked up the couch and headed back it started to rain... The rain subsided after I kept willing it in my head to wait until we got home to start raining. Right before we get home my uncle says something about the rain stopping because he willed it too, laughingly, I said me too.

      shadowofwind: My belief about the whole matter regarding "astral energy" is that everything is truly some type of energy. I believe that our "third eye" or brow chakra is our true eye, meaning that this is how we perceive that type of energy that is all. Also there is ways to activate this ability, as I have.

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      I don't have any superpowers per se. I've got an acute intuition though, which has been an extremely valuable asset to me because it allows me to learn and adapt to stuff really easily and quickly, including scenario in the dream world.

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      Orb: When you say 'everything is truely some type of energy', you must be alluding to a collection of qualities which you associate with the word 'energy'. Otherwise it would be like saying 'everything is that which it is'. To me the phrase says something like 'everything is a simple dynamic complex of inertial spontaneity'. I agree with that. Common concepts of 'energy' are included in my thought about what matter is, with light being a special case in that the state its in is all translational, so to speak. But this doesn't answer my question, other than to suggest that "astral energy" is a type of matter where we perceive it to be, without addressing the other alternatives.

      The moon, as a physical object, is a large ball of rock in space some modest distance from the earth. Suppose I see a reflection of the moon on the surface of a lake. Is the moon in the lake? If you consider moonlight to be an extension of the moon, then there's some of that, but for the most part the moon is in space near the earth, not in the lake.

      Similarly, when you see someone's aura, where is it? Is it in the space surrounding that person's head, reflecting to your mind's eye, and projected onto your mental model of the space surrounding the person's head? Or is it somewhere other than in the space surrounding the person's head, but you are projecting it there in your mind, because of a relationship it has with the other person's mind, which is related with their head?

      Imagine you're driving a car, but instead of being able to see through the windshield, a computer projects a cartoon of your surroundings onto the inside of an opaque windshield. What we call 'seeing' is like that. Imagine you're looking for something good to eat, and the computer helpfully colors things differently depending on whether they're edible and what they taste like. That's what color is like, except usually things are colored approximately by wavelength of reflected/emitted light, rather than by edibility. Imagine that some things emit smells, but since you can't smell through your windshield, the computer creates a little colored cloud in the air around each thing to indicate what it smells like. This is like an aura. So my question is, does the colored cloud literally represent particles emitted by the object, colored and brightened so that you can see them? Or is it more figurative, like sound is figurative, indicating where a smell comes from, but with the cloud not being distributed according to the actual distribution of emitted particles?

      To carry this analogy further, suppose that different objects could be bought, and each had a price associated with it. Your computer could superimpose a little $ and number next to each object. Those symbols would be in your visual field, but would not be literally representing something that hangs in the air next to each object.

      I'm guessing that you're assuming that when you see an aura, it represents something actually in the air around a person's head, like a smell that other people can't detect. If someone who can see auras is willing though, I'm interested for them to mess with this a little bit, and try to learn more about that. If the aura has an objective, spatial location outside of the visual field in your mind, that says something about the nature of 'astral' stuff. It means that its made of what I earlier referred to as exotic matter, and that there's some objective map between that matter and what we think of as surrounding space. Also of interest is color, how much power do you have to change the apparent color of the aura using your imagination? Is the color inherent in the aura, or is it symbolic, and assigned by your mind?
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      Quote Originally Posted by shadowofwind View Post
      Atras: I would count seeing auras as a special ability, if you're able to get any actual information about a person that way. I can't see auras, and I doubt its just because I haven't tried. Not everybody's wired up quite the same. A question I have is whether you're seeing something that's actually where you see it, or if you're feeling the person's mind and then projecting the aura onto your visual field in reflection of what you feel. One reason that interests me, is its relevant to the question of whether astral matter is actual exotic matter, or whether its a mental representation of something else. To illustrate something of what I mean, visual light doesn't have color either. Our eyes detect different wavelengths, then our brains form a color map in response to what our eyes detected. But the color is not in the light. I'm speculating that color itself is astral, that we're using that part of ourselves to model wavelengths of light, but I'm guessing about that. Similarly, I'm thinking that the experience of sound is likely astral also. When we experience a sound as being in a particular location, we're projecting a probable origin of vibrations onto an internal map of our surrounding environment. The actual vibrations that reach our ears are quite a bit different than the experience of sound, most of us just never pay much attention to that. Anyway, anything that you can tell me by thinking about your experience is of interest to me, since I can't do my own experiments since I don't see auras.


      Rhetorical question for other people who think they can do stuff like control the weather: How do you know the weather is responding to you, as opposed your subconscious getting a premonition of what's going to happen, and then suggesting to you what you 'want' based on what it knows is probably going to happen anyway?

      Brain scans show that most people have already decided something prior to being conscious of making a decision. This fits my experience also. My feeling of having choice is a mental of model of the power I have, its not a direct awareness of what power I actually have. I say that because I can consciously alter the model, and experience myself as having far more or far less choice without changing my actual choice. Similarly, when I ask a question, and my subconscious responds with an answer, often I can tell that it was my subconscious that suggested the question to start with.

      I'm not doubting that people have the power to change things psychically, I'm sure that they do. I'm just drawing attention to this potential cause of confusion. I've had this in my dreams also, where I experience myself as causing an event which later happens in the waking world, but I think that I'm not actually causing it, I'm just temporarily shifting my sense of identity to the fate, so to speak, that does cause it.
      Auras aren't just a perception by the brain. They are actually there. You have to train your eyes to see them because they aren't within the visible light spectrum.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Atras View Post
      Auras aren't just a perception by the brain. They are actually there. You have to train your eyes to see them because they aren't within the visible light spectrum.
      Higher frequency than visible light is ultraviolet. If you could see ultraviolet, it wouldn't look like a glow around a person, it would just change the appearance of their skin a little. For a glow, its either got to get scattered a lot by the air around them, or there have to be particles of some kind in the air. Ultraviolet doesn't scatter like that because the wavelengths are too short. Likewise for higher frequencies like x-rays and gamma rays.

      Lower frequency than visible light is infrared, like night vision goggles. That doesn't scatter very much in air either, and doesn't seem very aura-like to me. The reason that infrared images appear dull or lacking in detail is the wavelengths are too long to focus well optically. Lower frequency than that is microwaves, or radio waves. Very little of that makes it past the skull. If you could see the tiny amount that a person puts out, you'd go blind around power lines. The wavelengths are much too long to be focused by your eyes however. To make an image of that kind of a field you'd need a big antenna, it would have to be moving, and the field would have to be stronger.

      So if its not projected by your imagination, it seems to me that it has to be some kind of exotic matter, and some kind of exotic light. By exotic I mean its not merely outside the visible light spectrum, its not even the same kind of stuff that interacts with normal matter such as your eyes are made out of. So if you can see that, it definitely qualifies as a super power.

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      Quote Originally Posted by shadowofwind View Post
      Higher frequency than visible light is ultraviolet. If you could see ultraviolet, it wouldn't look like a glow around a person, it would just change the appearance of their skin a little. For a glow, its either got to get scattered a lot by the air around them, or there have to be particles of some kind in the air. Ultraviolet doesn't scatter like that because the wavelengths are too short. Likewise for higher frequencies like x-rays and gamma rays.

      Lower frequency than visible light is infrared, like night vision goggles. That doesn't scatter very much in air either, and doesn't seem very aura-like to me. The reason that infrared images appear dull or lacking in detail is the wavelengths are too long to focus well optically. Lower frequency than that is microwaves, or radio waves. Very little of that makes it past the skull. If you could see the tiny amount that a person puts out, you'd go blind around power lines. The wavelengths are much too long to be focused by your eyes however. To make an image of that kind of a field you'd need a big antenna, it would have to be moving, and the field would have to be stronger.

      So if its not projected by your imagination, it seems to me that it has to be some kind of exotic matter, and some kind of exotic light. By exotic I mean its not merely outside the visible light spectrum, its not even the same kind of stuff that interacts with normal matter such as your eyes are made out of. So if you can see that, it definitely qualifies as a super power.
      Yeah Im no expert haha but from what ive read it is something that all living things give off.

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      Quote Originally Posted by shadowofwind View Post
      Orb: When you say 'everything is truely some type of energy', you must be alluding to a collection of qualities which you associate with the word 'energy'. Otherwise it would be like saying 'everything is that which it is'. To me the phrase says something like 'everything is a simple dynamic complex of inertial spontaneity'. I agree with that. Common concepts of 'energy' are included in my thought about what matter is, with light being a special case in that the state its in is all translational, so to speak. But this doesn't answer my question, other than to suggest that "astral energy" is a type of matter where we perceive it to be, without addressing the other alternatives.

      The moon, as a physical object, is a large ball of rock in space some modest distance from the earth. Suppose I see a reflection of the moon on the surface of a lake. Is the moon in the lake? If you consider moonlight to be an extension of the moon, then there's some of that, but for the most part the moon is in space near the earth, not in the lake.

      Similarly, when you see someone's aura, where is it? Is it in the space surrounding that person's head, reflecting to your mind's eye, and projected onto your mental model of the space surrounding the person's head? Or is it somewhere other than in the space surrounding the person's head, but you are projecting it there in your mind, because of a relationship it has with the other person's mind, which is related with their head?

      Imagine you're driving a car, but instead of being able to see through the windshield, a computer projects a cartoon of your surroundings onto the inside of an opaque windshield. What we call 'seeing' is like that. Imagine you're looking for something good to eat, and the computer helpfully colors things differently depending on whether they're edible and what they taste like. That's what color is like, except usually things are colored approximately by wavelength of reflected/emitted light, rather than by edibility. Imagine that some things emit smells, but since you can't smell through your windshield, the computer creates a little colored cloud in the air around each thing to indicate what it smells like. This is like an aura. So my question is, does the colored cloud literally represent particles emitted by the object, colored and brightened so that you can see them? Or is it more figurative, like sound is figurative, indicating where a smell comes from, but with the cloud not being distributed according to the actual distribution of emitted particles?

      To carry this analogy further, suppose that different objects could be bought, and each had a price associated with it. Your computer could superimpose a little $ and number next to each object. Those symbols would be in your visual field, but would not be literally representing something that hangs in the air next to each object.

      I'm guessing that you're assuming that when you see an aura, it represents something actually in the air around a person's head, like a smell that other people can't detect. If someone who can see auras is willing though, I'm interested for them to mess with this a little bit, and try to learn more about that. If the aura has an objective, spatial location outside of the visual field in your mind, that says something about the nature of 'astral' stuff. It means that its made of what I earlier referred to as exotic matter, and that there's some objective map between that matter and what we think of as surrounding space. Also of interest is color, how much power do you have to change the apparent color of the aura using your imagination? Is the color inherent in the aura, or is it symbolic, and assigned by your mind?
      shadowofwind: When I first responded to your post I was very intrigued. I didnt respond immediately because I wanted to put lots of thought into my answer. By the way, thanks for clearing up what I had misinterpreted, I thought you were confused about whether or not it actually this "astral" matter existed. Obviously you are more open minded than I had expected, sorry for judging, its just I am used to narrowmindedness in my day to day life.

      I digress though, what I meant by everything is truly some type of energy is that it is a matter of perceiving the different types energy. Everything has its own energy "signature" and yes astral energy would be considered 'exotic' matter in my opinion. I think that auras are a way of percieving this matter. Another belief that I have not found anything contradicting is that the brain will interpret any experience like this and make it real to the person having the experience. A personal example from my life is when I see orbs, because I see them more than auras, I will try to find meaning in them but I base the meaning I find off of the database of memories I have in my head.

      Basically what I am trying to say is that there is not a standard for what an individual will see when they "see" auras or things of that nature. What it comes down to is perception. With that added awareness of the more subtle energies that exist in our universe, you still have all of your other senses and brain as well, so it will be filtered though the brain and senses to make it real to the person having the experience. This is how I have interpreted the auras and orbs that I see. Since I have never had any outside information intake about what auras mean or what orbs mean I have come to my own conclusions. Hope that clears some things up for you, if you have any questions ask and I will do my best to answer.

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      Its pleasing to hear that your thoughts about these things are based largely on your own experience. Often when talking to people who base their interpretations more on what they've read, I seem not to learn as much, because I've read a lot of books too.

      The reason I question interpretations of paranormal experiences is not that I doubt that people have real paranormal experiences. Its that I've learned that a lot of standard 'esoteric' beliefs and interpretations of experiences are not entirely to be trusted. A lot the ideas one reads are partially true, all of it that I'm aware of is at least partially conjecture presented as fact, and partially untrue. So I've tried to get rid of all my beliefs and assumptions and start over from scratch. Astral matter was one assumption I've been re-examining, not because I have a particular issue with it, but because I've been re-examining everything.

      One reason I've been doing this, as I have posted elsewhere, is I can see that the ideas through which we interpret our inner experiences are based to a significant degree on past scientific ideas. Even though most people don't think about those connections, they're still limited by the ideas available to them subconsciously. Many experiences would be a lot richer and more understandable if people had a better framework within which to imagine those things to themselves. Although modern scientific thinking is very poorly equipped to deal with or explain supernatural phenomena, the older ideas that mystics and 'New Agers' use are quite limited also, and improvements are now possible. So I'm trying to help piece together a more developed way of thinking about 'higher worlds', so that people will have those available to use. As an example of what I mean, if a person has a dream that's akin to a past life experience, there isn't much they can do with it besides imagine its a 'past life', or dismiss it as meaningless or using some kind of psychobabble. I think the 'past life' metaphor is inadequate for many such experiences however, which makes those experiences hard to even have, much less understand.

      I'm aware that a lot of seemingly different interpretations of experience can be almost equivalent. When I say that an idea is 'untrue', what I mean is that it fails to adequately describe the experience it attempts to explain, and that life difficulties tend to arise from where it breaks down.

      Fifteen years ago when I used to read books, I read some of a Theosophical bent, particularly by H. W. Percival. Those suggested that the best path of development currently is to work on issues having to do with identity and redemption first, and leave psychic development until after that's all straightened out. The argument given was that if you develop psychically first, then your pride and power lusts will get you all entangled in your new astral playground. So although a person's psychic tendencies will develop to some extent anyway, as a side effect of the moral and noetic development, the latter was supposed to be the focus. I don't entirely believe this argument, in part because of watching the effect that attitude seems to have on people. I wonder if they'd actually be less psychically snared up, and less hypocritically conflicted, if they were less afraid of the psychic part of themselves. Since our psychic natures are a natural part of us, it seems to me that they should be exercised and used as they develop, otherwise leaving them stunted will have undesirable effects. At the same time, it does seem natural to me not to force things in weird ways, becoming the psychic equivalent of a contortionist. This is one reason I don't usually see astrally: I've chosen not to try to develop it. Another reason is I'm just not very receptive or creative in that way - I've got other unusual mental abilities but not that one.

      I'm probably going to be quite busy for six weeks following this one. So I'm going to share some thoughts on orbs, in case those might be of use to you. And I'm going to say a lot up front, without much feedback, because I won't have time for a back-and-forth conversation later. Some of this I have previously posted elsewhere.

      Presumably, there are a very wide variety of orbs that represent very different phenomena, since its such a natural shape. So my orb might very easily not have much to do with your orbs.

      One thing I learned years ago is that if I ask a question, I can pretty much count on getting some kind of an answer. It may not be a complete answer, and it may not be entirely right, but generally speaking its a step. Over the years, the muse/daemon/fate/higher-self/desire/feeling/subconscious/soul/angel/spirit-guide/entity/poltergeist that provides the answers has developed, exhibiting an increasingly wide range of capabilities, and not really fitting into any existing paradigms. One way it communicates is in dreams and in intuitions. It also arranges external events, in much the same manner that it arranges dreams, apparently. It also can produce obviously miraculous events, but usually does not. It can communicate using other people's thoughts as a sort of vocabulary, and can use my thoughts to communicate with other people. I think it is extremely patient. It has a sarcastic sense of humor. Its obviously deeply connected with other people's intuitions and destinies, even though it exhibits something like an individual identity in relation to me. A couple of weeks ago, when suggesting how I should try viewing a particular inner experience, it referred to 'higher kin' and 'lower kin', the implication being that there's a deeper part of my 'self' that's related to me in some way, but not exactly my 'self' either. (This is one criticism I have of a lot of eastern teachings, they seem to assume that everything is either 'I', usually a 'false I', or else a homogeneous, universal self. I think that reality has a lot more complexity and nuance than that, and it doesn't do it justice to call the nuance 'false' or 'illusory'.)

      Anyway this muse once represented itself to me as an orb of light, maybe about the size of a grapefruit, touching different parts of my brain while creating a dream that would be played back to me later. On another occasion, in response to my questions about its identity and nature, it appeared in a dream as the moon, but several hundred yards away and a few meters across, rather than at the distance of the 'real' moon and hundreds of miles across. I feel that it is related to us as people, and its nature is qualified by the condition that we are in, as opposed to being pure and ultimate and godlike. I've some reason to believe that it doesn't like being thought of as an 'it', but I don't know what else to call it, since it doesn't have a gender or a name that I am aware of. The knowledge it can communicate seems to be limited, but its either quite intelligent in a certain kind of way, or its a tool of something else which is quite intelligent. Some of the 'lessons' it gives in dreams or events are quite beautifully designed in my view.

      OK, ask questions if you want.
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      When I was first getting lucid frequently, I was doing a lot of Jedi acrobatics in my lucids, jumping onto buildings and lamp posts. One day while walking home during that time, I had the sudden urge to jump on top of a building. I was absolutely sure I could do it, no doubt in my mind, I could feel it and and it was ready to happen. Only thing was I knew this wasn't a dream, and there were people around. If it didn't work it would look like I just ran up and jumped into a brick wall.

      So I didn't try it, and I've regretted it ever since. At the time I was so sure...

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      Quote Originally Posted by The Cusp View Post
      At the time I was so sure...
      My guess is you would have hurt yourself. I think there's a big, big gap between feeling that confidence and having the power to pull it off reliably.

      Occult philosophers and prophets get fooled that way about knowledge also. They get intoxicated by the feeling of KNOWING stuff just by willing to know. For a while their subconscious doubts work to protect them and they avoid situations where their foolishness would be exposed. But eventually they fail.

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      any power related to meditation?

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      Someone please use their psychic powers to help me find the £200 I misplaced.

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      I can use my ki, but it's very weak, and not even to the point of visibility(if that's possible), I'm learning how to do telepathy, and to look at aura. I've had a few telepathy successes. And my friends and I give each other very very very VERY minor injuries with ki. I really believe in this stuff. I'd like to perfect telepathy so I can read minds and talk to others secretly.
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      shadowofwind: Great response, I have been being lazy/busy the past few days and have not made time to respond, so I hope you have time to at least read this. I am excited to even have talked with you because I feel as if you are an important person in the future, for everyone including myself

      Ok, So I totally agree how standard beliefs are partially true and untrue. I have held this belief my whole life and as a result have become a very open minded individual. There is more too it than just that though, that thought pattern grew into something one could to refer to as a path to enlightenment. Since I have found that everything, for lack of a detailed list, holds some form of truth, I scoured the internet for things that would work for me. That is another part of it too, I do things that work for me. It is also another reason why I have come to the place I am at, I dont hold on to any belief or anything of that nature, I just use it until I evolve out of it whenever that may be. So when I found out about astral projection using your third eye, I decided to try it. This decision was mostly intuitive though, I had heard about AP but always shied away, until now. Since I could do it, I labeled the experience accordingly in my head. After awhile, I started going through major changes in thought patterns, everyday activities and every human sense I had was enhanced, to some degree. At first I was really intuitive, and that ended up showing me how to "feel" emotions/chi. This happened about September of last year, and I am still getting a firm understanding of it.

      Quick, relevant story time. I got isoprobyl alcohol in my right eye about 2.5 years before this, and it damaged my right eye to a point where I couldnt see far distances. Soon after this happened, I was staring out a window of a schoolbus on a sunny day. I was in deep thought and not very aware of my physical surroundings. Suddenly, I noticed a speck of something bright within the air, it was just kinda floating around, but when I focused my eyes on it, the non-existent light dissapeared. Since I didnt now about orbs at the time, I figured it was somehow related to the eye damage. I researched it and came to that conclusion, and eventually gave it up although my intuition still was seemingly holding on to the experience.

      Through the same way I found out about astral projection, I was taught a new technique. It involved opening your eyes during the astral projection, at a certain time, in order to somewhat ground the experience and to see "astral" matter in your room. After I tried this in the dark, I was displeased with the amount of effort I invested and the very little outcome. All I saw was some purple that I labeled as me seeing my own third eye. I dont know how I came to this conclusion, but it led me to believe that I was just seeing that. This ability became real to me when I was laying in bed one morning, sometime later, looking at this purple. Suddenly I was aware of this girl I had been talking to at the time, there was no reason to me why but since I liked her I didnt mind. Suddenly she was inside the purple with a grin on her face. This honestly excited me so much that I snapped out of it and became aware of this reality only. Within 20 seconds of this happening I recieved a text message from her, the first one I ever randomly got from her. This may not seem like much, but when one is directly experiencing this, it is mind blowing.

      So after all of that and lots of meditation, I was meditating/astral projecting outside in the sun. I feel so much more energetic outside and it makes astral projection easier for me. Again, I was trying a technique i learned online from the same person who I learned AP from. I was trying to see my energy body. What happened was I saw the same purple and other colors on my body, but I kept my attention on a particular thing I was seeing. I say thing because in my human experience i have never seen anything like it. But it was basically a moving piece of "astral" matter that was bright and muti-colored, but not a color I have seen in this reality, and it almost looked like a pen point from somewhere else was drawing something, but it only left a small trail, not a visible line. Now that is just my interpretation, I cannot guarantee that we view astral matter the same way, but the reason I believe that it is astral matter is because the orbs i see now, the orb I saw when I was younger, and this indescribable piece of matter I saw all share one quality. When I focus my eyes on them, they dissapear. From my perspective, this means astral because it is beyond the normal sight that every human possesses. Also the indescribable piece of matter I was watching became a part of my life because whenever I would stare off into space, literally looking at the sky at staring off, I would see many of them. Eventually I learned to focus my third eye on that piece of matter and I started seeing orbs.

      I felt like that would help you understand where I am coming from. Now about this higherself. Along my journey I learned about the higherself idea. Honestly, I was skeptical at first as most people are of matters that are not 100% tangible. However astral projection showed me something very important, that there is more that just this reality. I am a believer of different planes of existence, or multiple dimensions. I was originally taught to skip over certain places in AP and to only go in the "good" places astrally. On many occasions though, I have had bad experiences often involving violence. Several times when this has happened, a guardian version of myself would come protect me from annihilation, but allow me to do things. Like you said previously, when a question is asked one generally receives some type of response, and after many questions and tests, I have come to believe that we have different representations of ourselves on these higher dimensions. So when I got to the part about higher and lower kin in your post, I understood through my own perception. Seeing as how you are aware of these different dimensional versions, on some level, you may know what I am talking about. To make it more clear, all of the dimensions are interconnected. The 3rd dimension, or physical reality, is the one we currently exist in is much denser than the other dimension and thus humans/physical matter is able to exist. We are somewhat separated from the other dimensions in 3D, so in the higher realms there is no phycical matter. So when I think astral, it means anything beyond 3D reality. This is only because I dont know the limits of what astral would be considered because there are many dimensions that exist beyond ours. That basically sums up how I can see astral matter. Since all the different dimensions affect eachother, and I am aware of more than just this reality, it seems to me like I am viewing some kinds of interdimensional activity.

      Oh yeah, dreams seem to be something of this nature too. I have met my higherselves in dreams but it seemed to me like we are like one being, almost like I am viewing my higher self doing things but I am doing it as well.

      Thanks for reading even though its long

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      ineverwakeup97: Thats awesome dude! I have used my ki to put out flames and move a psi wheel too. I want to caution you to not use it to harm any beings though. I believe in karma as much as I do ki and just let me say the more you use it for good, positive intentions the more powerful you will become

      Try reading someones mind who you are really, really close too. For me its my cousin, we will literally be thinking the same thing and just go on and on about it with no prior communication on the subject. Other people dont even notice we are doing it because we use shorthand sentences to just let the other person know its happening. There is more too it than just their thoughts though, I have found that there is emotional content along with just about everything that a person experiences and please be aware that you might pick that up when you attempt reading someones mind. Also try to be aware of feelings that arise after you start picking up on someones aura or reading their mind because auras can be heavily damaged and weak, but can still get into your aura unless you have an incredibly strong presence and are aware of it happening.

      Also there is a mental layer to the aura, and many more. Do your research and you will learn a valuable skill. Thought that might be of use to you

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