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      Astral Projection with something else controlling me?

      Disclaimer: I’m still not 100% sure where I stand on AP, I am trying to prove to myself it exists, aside from that I have had a lot of lucid dream experiences and other experiences in the dream state. I don’t know why I’m putting this disclaimer here at all actually as this is one of the few forums I’ve read where people can talk openly with different beliefs and it doesn’t feel like you’re being judged by someone from the ‘General Lucid’ board, just because they don’t share the same beliefs…….anyway….

      Fell asleep on the couch about 9pm, woke up just over 6 hours later, 3:09am. No real recall of dreaming prior to this. Lay in bed for about half an hour, I had set my alarm to go off at 5:30am to try and get into the vibrational state but thought, what the hell.

      I should probably say that to prior to this event I had a bad weekend, I was not in a good mental state, very fragile and negative in fact so was a little tentative to try AP when feeling this way as I heard like attracts like, still...

      Slipped into my first dream and became lucid almost immediately. Was in a room that had wooden walls, mahogany style, similar to a room you might expect in a castle or such. I was with my sister and a couple of others I can't remember and she was talking about how my late grandmother had been the first person to congratulate her on graduating on Facebook. At that point it struck me I was dreaming except I seemed to lose control instantly and felt a vibrational shift into an Astral Projection like experience (I can feel the difference now), I fell forward and sunk into the floor, I was in complete darkness and started floating rapidly to the right, something was moving me, I was not controlling this.

      Quite scared I asked for protection from a higher being, I asked to for a being of light or a higher being to help me. My movement changed immediately, was less intense and I was floating upwards. I was still not in control but it felt less threatening and I felt I could wake myself if needed. I was turned around and floating facing a wall that was completely black (or just dark) except that it had loads of runic shapes glowing in a bright blue light. I felt like I had no control although part of me was 'going with it' to see what happened.

      I was then moved through the wall and saw a large spiral, that looked like a zoomed in spiral molecular structure and finally I was zoomed in further and perceived the whole experiece in binary, or that's what it seemed, a pattern of 1's and 0's, matrix like.

      At that point I seized control of the experience and ended it, waking up. There was a very sharp re-entry to the physical.

      Has anyone had an experience like this? The runic wall looked like this:

      Http://img.waffleimages.com/33aa9d6b...ic%20Runes.jpg
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      I have heard of people mentioning "helpers". They help to pull you out either by ankles or shoulders, or perhaps some other way. And they stay with you during your travel, althought the projector most of the time just senses their presence. They don't really like to show themselves.

      Just be carefull when asking for help and don't ask just anybody. You did it right, when you invited only entities with your or above your level of development to help. And it doesn't hurt to excude everybody, who is not 'of the light'.

      Once I caught my body half way between my bed and the window being dragged by ankles. But I never had and experience with a helper. I guess your helper had something to show you.

      Happy travels

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      Hi gab,

      Thanks for your response. I think I've posted before on here about my experience during the vibrations and asking for help only to be whisked out of my body and stood up at the side of my bed by the ankles. The actual standing me up on my 'astral' feet was quite funny in restrospect, because before when I'd gotten out of my body alone (from visualising flying) I was flailing about suspended over the side of the bed. I guess in the early stages you're still relying on your physical like senses and movements until you get a hang of it.

      This was more like something els etaking a grip of me and allowing myself to go with it, although I felt threatened until I asked for help.

      Thanks again for your advice, I'll bear that in mind and make sure I get my affirmations and requests accurate!
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      I had a similar dream not too long ago. Was dreaming, went to sleep in the dream, had an OBE like entrance into my inception dream, where something was floating me along, also to the right. I consider myself pretty good at dream control, so I was particularly disturbed by my complete lack of control in that situation. I fought against it and managed to wake myself up back to the original dream.

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      If it happens again, I'm going to let it take to see what happens.
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      That's really interesting The Cusp, I read your dream journal entry and it is familiar.

      I've experienced it a few times, in Lucid dreams something else takes control of my body, not inside, it's always external forces like my body is locked in position and I'm moved. Once after becoming lucid on a tram in a dream (from my reflection waving at me), I thought to myself "I wonder what would happen if the sun crashed towards earth" this force took over me and twisted me round to look out of the window. At that point the sun came crashing down and through the city, smashing through buildings (the sun in my dream was about 20m long when it came down to the earth, so really it was just a big orb). But yeah, I tried to fight it, to regain control but could only use my mind as my body was stuck. Eventually I either wrestled control back or whatever it was gave up and I shook myself awake.

      Like you am keen to see where these things go.

      When I asked for help last time the energy changed, I moved in a different direction and it felt a lot more friendly.

      Thanks for posting your experience, enjoyed reading it.
      "Kindly let me help you or you'll drown", said the monkey, putting the fish safely up a tree.

      - Alan Watts.

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