Is there a way to trigger an Astral Projection instead of a Lucid Dream?

**darkphovos** · 01-15-2015 10:43 AM

I have had a large number of lucid dreams (usually conscious false awakenings), but no successful attempts to astral project.

To trigger a lucid dream usually I am lying in my bed waiting to sleep but suddenly (I don’t know how) I realize that I am already in sleep paralysis (although I can wake up if I want to) and just waiting to enter a REM phase. Then at this point I am trying to mentally shift my position slightly to the left or right (there is no muscle involved in this movement, so it is safe as there is no chance to trigger an actual movement of the real body) once I feel the shift I take the big decision to get off my bed and start walking in the darkness with confidence. If I doubt even slightly then the dream physics may not be stable enough (I once fell through the floor to the abyss!). At this state there are no obstacles, I just think that I am walking on a solid floor, I feel each step and the vibration when walking. Usually the optics come after a while and are always blurry (extremely blurry but with color), I just keep walking and I try to think that the vision is becoming more clear, and it becomes (with extreme detail). I always end up in my house in different rooms depending on the distance I walked (Sometimes I see members of my family in the house but I have never spoken to them as I know they are parts of the dream).

Now at the state of sleep paralysis if I try to shift myself upwards, downwards or try to separate with complex rotating moves, I always find heavy resistance and loud buzzing (and another electrical type sound which is always the same when I collide the astral body with the real one while rotating). I can observe my arms moving (melting hands phenomenon) but there is no way to stabilize this state and I return back to my bed.

I would like to know if there is a way to trigger an astral projection instead of a lucid dream. I also wonder why is so hard to separate by flying and so easy by just standing up and walking (I have experience with flight in lucid dreams and I am good at it, reaching very high speeds and making very stiff maneuvers).

**mimihigurashi** · 01-15-2015 10:55 AM

You can allegedly just will yourself to be 'transported' to the astral realm. It's a different frequency than the dream realm.
It's not necessarily difficult to separate by flying, it varies from one person to another, for me for example it's very easy to float out of my body when the moment is right.

**darkphovos** · 01-15-2015 11:08 AM

mimihigurashi, thank you for the reply.

At the state of sleep paralysis I am so connected to the reality, I can hear the cars noises and voices form the members of my family (if they are awake) or the radio playing and also I can feel my body lying in bed.

To transport to the astral realm shall I just think of it while lying in bed or I should try to separate first? Can I do it while walking in the darkness while I am still blind before I end up in a room of my house?

**mimihigurashi** · 01-15-2015 11:33 AM

You're welcome but sorry, I don't know how you should go about doing that, I never tried it. If you're going to try, you should try after you've separated and your mind is clear, your senses sharp and your environment stable. That should increase your chances. Also I'm sure there is information online on how to go from the dream realm to the astral, look it up, just to have a more precise idea of what you're supposed to do.

**ATA** · 01-15-2015 07:35 PM

I use little diffrenet model how it works . In my model fealing leaving a body is allwayes a ilusion , virtul a word created by brain form various data sources. Only difference between a dream and astral travel is source od data internal vs external.Main facor is intention you must have clear and precize intention where travel or precieve.To astral travel you dount need relaxation , trance , leaving a body. To tune and reacieve data you need only a intention but there is a catch actualy many of them.

For tune a and reacivig data is sufficient normal waking state but it need some practice to learn how to tune , have stable signal, and also something like bandwidh and signal quality.
If all worked you have conncetion to internet (astral) and you can visit webpage (place in astral for instance) is better know exact adress (energy signature) or you can use search function

Now you have data but you must uderstand them transtale them . Its like program that make from code on your harddrive redable information . You can have amny translators is strongly depends on belief systems.

So now you have some readable data in form of concepts last part is actaly precive them . You need something like intreface monitor , speakers...
In waking state normal senses usle almout all resources and is hard get good visual preception or body rpeception but is possible you musle movements (pendulum) or even hand movements in time also comunication with thoughts . This is enought to get information form astral is basic form without any addons . Like in computer to gte infomation text sufice you do not need fully formed super HD virtual reality.

Actualy for preception real data is better use something like portal display not fully formed virutual reality reason why is complex ( belief sytem influnce , mechanism how brain works..)

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Vision porblems and flying this is little different is about how to make new virtual reality+body stable.
It work on multisensory integration rules.

This is little complex to explain in few sentences. Try to look to body not as whole but a robot with different sensors that create senses.Intregration of data form sences create body image /preception in dream word and is the same in normal reality. If signals form senses are too different intregration to one body is imposible and it create new one. This new body can be only point in space in extrem case or it can have only one sense at begginig. At start of OOBE you usualy dout have coplete body with all sense and you must create them.

Stronger and more diffrent data form virtual body are better becouse dount allow easy integration with senses form physical body. In flying body is in similar position than i bed voment of lims is minimal ,touch also minimal... in walking you have more stronger sensory imput that make your dream body stable . Fly in high speed and changing course and speed is better it use linear and angular acceleration and also can help stabilze the new body.

**Sivason** · 01-16-2015 03:20 AM

If I were you, I would work on developing certain skills in LD.

Start with these.

1) Being able to erase the scenery down to a white background.

2) Being able to use your voice. Not dream you are talking, but hear and feel the sound just as vividly as you see thing in the dream. Get to where you can project your voice as an almost sonic weapon. You then play with changing the frequency of the noise you create. Try vowel sounds and make them shake the entire dream world.