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      Ghostly Figure

      I am an experienced lucid dreamer and have also 'mastered' WILD technique...although unless I stay conscious until I start to build hypnogogia into a dream, I most often have an OBE entry to the lucid dream. So most often I have to build my dream experiences from my perceived bedroom.

      A few months ago my son, who was 15 at the time, had a strange encounter with a ghost standing in his doorway in his bedroom in the middle of the night. He awoke to this dark figure, male, short, stood there looking is way. He shouted 'WTF'! In it's full form pulled his iPhone out and shined light from it and the figure disappeared.

      I obviously thought this was an overlap of dream, and he came out of SP the moment he shouted WTF also because my son told me he had a dream interrupted by a man that had 'tapped him on the shoulder'.

      A month or so later it happened again. This time he did not swear but he did shout lol. I got up and went to him and he described the same scenario. He remained very calm about and agreed it was just an overlap of dream. More importantly, whatever it was, he recognised as not being real (as in fact what scared him most was the fact he thought it might be an intruder)

      That night I went back to sleep and something strange happened to me. I guess because it was the early hours, I unintentionally initiated a WILD. Except when it happened, although I recall it as it happened, I was still somewhat unconscious. All I remember is 'leaving' my body, laying down backwards on my bed and reaching upwards. I then arose from my bed and I was this man. I felt no emotion. I walked to my son's bedroom, and I stood in the doorway. I could see our dog staring at me, and my son asleep in his bed. I saw to the right of me his X-Box, and on it was a toilet roll. Nearly empty of tissue. I took this roll and threw it at him. I had a feeling I wanted to get his attention so I did not throw it right a him, just by the side of him. He did not awake. But I did. In my bed. Wondering what I had been doing and I realised I had just played the roll of this dark figure (played the toilet roll?) in my son's room (seriously I think that is what the toilet roll represented!) What I felt was no maliciousness, but I just wanted to get his attention. Also it is the only time I have ever had a WILD ad been unconscious to my actions. I did not question being this man at the time. I just got on with it.

      A few months have past again and my son and I have swapped rooms as he is 16 now and he needs the bigger room. I have been busy creating a new dream space in the small room. It is odd having OBE's in the new room as I got so used to having them in what is now my son's room. I hae had moments of wondering if my son's room is haunted. It feels colder then the other rooms. The energy doesn't feel as cosy. I felt glad my son was in my old bedroom and fancied doing some work on the energy in his old. room. I've had lots' a normal OBE's and have just left ad lucid dreamed. But one time I did get up (in an OBE) and wonder if that strange figure was by the door. I thought he was so I walked my dream body backwards into him and he turned into a pile of cardboard boxes and fell down. I then continued with my dream.

      But v early this morning I awoke to hearing my son shouting 'BOO!!'. I lay there and immediately knew that the dark figure had been in his room (what was my room) and he had shouted 'BOO!' at it to make it go away. I went back to sleep. When I awoke I wondered why I was not more alarmed. I soon forgot about it until my son spoke about it this evening after we mentioned lucid dreaming. He said the same figure had entered the room. The man had walked a little way in and my son then went for his iPhone again. My son had the usual panic that it might be an intruder, but as soon as he went for his phone, it disappeared. I still don't quite get why my son shouted BOO at the ghost-figure but somehow I did get it when I awoke to hearing him shouting it.

      OK. We want to sort this one now. My son doesn't really want to see this guy again.

      Options: I suggested it is an overlap and he is only able to react to it after it has gone suggesting it is SP. But he disagreed because after he shouted WTF the first time (which I heard to) it was still there. Which suggests he was out of SP by that time. But perhaps there is an overlap to SP too? Which is why I am posting here to see if anyone has had similar...

      The next option is: is a ghost? But what is a ghost? A projection of himself maybe? A resonance of something? I was brought up in a house with a very unhappy ghost, but the whole family always thought it was just unhappy energy left behind. This house does not seem to contain any vibes like that. Well. At least it didn't. We have been here for 15 years.

      The even more nerve wracking option is...well...is it me?? Am I really projecting my dream body somehow into his conscious experience? Am I having unconscious OBE's? Are there more to OBE's then just my brain remembering where I last left my body? The only reason I would question this is because of the experience I mentioned where I unconsciously became the figure and traced it as it happened... and also because I have only been working with WILD for the last couple of years...before that I was just a natural lucid dreamer not intending a thing.

      This is a long post, but perhaps someone may read it and have some ideas they might like to share. Because I am a little bit stuck right now. I feel guilty because I asked my son if he would perhaps try to get into dialogue with it next time (as if it is a lucid dream) and then he got mad at me because he said he didn't feel afraid and now he does! Oops.

      FYI my son is mentally balanced and calls me a hippy and plays football and has loads of mates he is not a kid who looks for stuff to get weird about. Although he is sensitive and highly intuitive and intelligent. Sorry mate, you can't leave all your mum's genes behind!!

      Thank you in advance.

      Becky
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      Firstly, I'd like to hear about how you've mastered WILD techniques.

      It could be a ghost, or a projection of you. My impression is that it is a ghost. If it is, you can help him cross to the other side and have peace. Tell the ghost to go to the light.
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      Ok thanks man, well, im not sure if I believe in ghosts in that way but i did ask my lad to get into dialogue with it...but I suppose any good intention whatever it is would be a safe bet. I do have a close link with my son in dreams and we often have shared experiences, I suppose this is natural being so close. If it's my projection
      what if he ends up sending me to the other side LOL - maybe I will experience lucid transcendence!!!

      Ah well I put 'Mastered' in inverted commas for a reason...as when is one ever a master of anything that is still so new. But I am successful and my way is probably a culmination of known techniques and my own personal 'ritual' now. I could briefly explain what I do if you think that might help (you are a lucid dreamer but not wild'ing yet, yes?) but my way might not work for you ... let me know happy to share.

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      Quote Originally Posted by TillyP View Post
      Ok thanks man, well, im not sure if I believe in ghosts in that way but i did ask my lad to get into dialogue with it...but I suppose any good intention whatever it is would be a safe bet. I do have a close link with my son in dreams and we often have shared experiences, I suppose this is natural being so close. If it's my projection
      what if he ends up sending me to the other side LOL - maybe I will experience lucid transcendence!!!

      Ah well I put 'Mastered' in inverted commas for a reason...as when is one ever a master of anything that is still so new. But I am successful and my way is probably a culmination of known techniques and my own personal 'ritual' now. I could briefly explain what I do if you think that might help (you are a lucid dreamer but not wild'ing yet, yes?) but my way might not work for you ... let me know happy to share.
      What percentage of your WILD's are successful?
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      Well atm I have 2 WILD nights set aside ... I think in the last few months there has been times when I don't 'succeed' if I am over tired or LAZY, meaning I don't focus or meditate enough or I get complacent. Umm ir goes in waves someone asked me the same question a few months ago and I said 90% but then I had some rough transition experiences ( real intense vibrations etc) and got a bit wobbly as I was having these OBE entries very frequently (4-5 times a week) and then I just didn't try as hard and didn't WILD as much...now I am back on an even keel. TBH mate this whole thing is practice and lucid dream life is unpredictable and often times there may be no rhyme nor reason..i would say booze inhibits me but then I drunk rum with my lucid dreaming friend the other night and went to bed at 3am and wilded at 6am perfectly then another time I might put all the practice in and just have a sloppy experience so hey hey it's an ongoing practice just enjoy it. It's annoying if you are doing an experiment and don't pass through clearly and succeed in an intention but that's life and no-one judges we all know how it goes right?! But all in all I have improved over time.

      So what about you? How is it for you?

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      p.s I mean 2 wild nights set aside *per week*

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      Strange but it sort of reminds me of how I can make myself see dream like images after waking up. I dont see them if I dont want to but if I think about it as im waking up I see it. Like I remember seeing a squiggly black thing before, two bags at my door, a deck of cards stacked together. The mind can be really weird at times. XD Also, at times when I go to bed my room feels like someone is there but no one is really there. I think its just fear and I live next to a house where people do animal sacrifices and stuff like that. They do some bad worship stuff calling for spirits to come to the house. Not as much now.But I have never seen anything demonic/spirit related happen so I think if your not experiencing anything while awake it could probably just be that he sees it when hes waking up because hes thinking about it.
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      Oh my goodness, sorry about your neighbours from hell mate!!! Woow.

      Yes thnks that was helpful. I wonder if it is a memory induced repetition. I too sometimes get that feeling that somebody is there, but more so now my lad has seen this dark guy. So figures.

      Hey that's really interesting what you say about intending to see after images when you awake. Yes the mind does funny things! But I feel that's pretty clever, and asks questions regarding how are imagination creates what we perceive etc...nice to ponder on thanks. My son said the moment he realises it is not real (ie not an actual intruder, it vanishes..so I guess we can see if we want and also not see if we want. Great stuff. TBH I was in a bit a panic yesterday and started to wonder all sorts of things...a bit more balanced today!! Still interesting to explore.
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      Thanks. Its been a while since they've done it outside though so i'm good. They can keep the whole neighborhood awake when they do it. I agree, its great to learn things about how the mind works and the things it can do. Your welcome and I'm glad to know your doing better today TillyP. I hope your son is doing better as well. : )
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      Interesting topic. I once was dreaming in a hotel room a while back. My mom was in the other room. The two rooms were joined by a door. I woke up screaming a bit one night thinking some lady was at the door but when I woke no one was there. My girlfriend was startled. Was that possibly a ghost guys? Off and on I have had hallucinations but lately I have just been trying to remember dreams... I'm interested in OBEs...
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