Thread: Triple Consciousness

One of the strangest experiences in my life so far..
I was laying in bed, and suddenly an image of a buddha that I've never seen before pops into my mind. I focus on it, and I feel a very strong sense of love. Suddenly I get a strange sensation in my solarplex area, It felt like a little fan spinning around and making a buzzing noise. It starts spinning faster and faster and the buzzing noise kept getting higher and louder. I felt kind of scared, but I thought "let's focus on the buddha and the feeling of love and just see what happens"
All of a sudden I feel myself rising very slowly out of my body and i knew I was having an OBE, first my legs floated up, en then my stomache and chest and finally my head.
AS SOON as my head had half left my physical head, my physical body instantly falls asleep and I wake up in a dream!
Weirdly enough, I was fully conscious of my physical body laying in bed having the loud buzzing and fan sensations, I was also fully conscious of my astral body floating half out of my physical body, and I was ALSO in a lucid dream standing in some strange room without doors.
In the dream I wanted to fly away and explore dreamland, but I also wanted to float out of my body and have my first OBE, and I also wanted the buzzing to stop. I wasn't able to move, I was in a kind of limbo.
Eventually (I have no idea how long, I'm assuming somewhere inbetween 10 - 40 mins) of just being in that triple consciousness state, my astral body dropped back into my physical body and I instantly also awoke from the dream.

Quite the experience, however I have to ask.

Why in beyond dreaming? While I understand that you believe in OBE and AP, that triple conciousness is also something that can be done on a whim in a lucid, so it is not like dreamers are alien to the concept and I think it would be a nice discussion.

Do you mean by "that can be done on a whim in a lucid" that you could recreate an experience like this in a lucid dream?

I can't prove it to you obviously, but I KNOW that I was nowhere near sleep when this happened, I was fully awake and conscious.
It sounds like you've read/experienced something like this before, if you have, could you share? I'd love to read about it.

That depends on your perspective. I'm not really a spiritual person, but I can have the exact same experience easily, just that I start it from a lucid rather than an OBE or AP.

Anyway, I have on two ocassions woken half of my body in order to interact with the waking world while still being in a dream, while also having multiple conciousness up inside of said dream and can also move about in my "room" (In my opinion, this is another dream rather than an OBE) with an spectral body. Have one dream about this somewhere, will try to find it and post it.

That does sound kind of similar, though you expierenced "waking" consciousness and "dream" consciousness, for me there was a third consciousness, and that one came BEFORE my body fell asleep, at the point of the fan and buzzing sensation I'm pretty sure I could still move my body if I wanted to, though I thought that might stop the experience.
I wasn't in a dream untill after I had half risen out of my body, and I felt it instantly fall asleep as I simultaneously appeared in a dream.
It seems like a good explanation that it was a dream, but in my opinion it wasn't a dream, because as I said, I was nowhere near falling asleep, mentally or physically

Let me know when you find it, sounds very interesting

Originally Posted by HumanDoing

That does sound kind of similar, though you expierenced "waking" consciousness and "dream" consciousness, for me there was a third consciousness,

Well, if you read what Hukif said, he also had a third consciousness, only two of them were "dream" consciousness..es rather than one he identified as astral/OBE. It is impossible to actually determine whether you two were experiencing the same thing but interpreting it different ways, but considering that OBE and astral projection have yet to enter the realm of science (meaning we can't prove or, most important to science, disprove that it is possible... not that disproving this phenomenon is important to science, what I mean to say is that something must be falsifiable in order for us to test it and verify its existence), it is very premature to assume that what you experienced is anything beyond a second dream consciousness (or that OBEs and astral projection aren't just very convincing dreams). Right now, the evidence is more in favor of it being a dream experience.

The experience itself sounds very interesting. I have had experiences where I feel and am aware of my real body while dreaming (or at least it appears to me that I am aware of my waking body... there's also a good chance that this is simply part of the dream too), but never where I have a third conscious awareness. Now, since Hukif says he has actually been able to control his body to interact with the waking world, there is evidence that, at least in that specific case, he was indeed feeling and controlling his waking body. However, that doesn't exclude the possibility that any other time you are aware of your waking body but don't interact with the real world, that you aren't simply dreaming that aspect up. All in all, it is a very interesting occurrence and phenomenon indeed. Keep in mind that I am not trying to tell you that OBE and astral projection are impossible or anything. Just pointing out facts and things to consider.

Originally Posted by snoop

Well, if you read what Hukif said, he also had a third consciousness, only two of them were "dream" consciousness..es rather than one he identified as astral/OBE.

What I meant was that what I experienced (seemed like?) a third type of awareness that wasn't dream or waking. While Hukif experienced 2 types (dream/waking)
It does sound like I might have been dreaming, it just seems very odd to me that my body and mind were still fully awake when I was lifting up.
also, when I was suddenly in the dream of which i KNEW it was a dream, it was a completely different world, while the other two awarenesses were both in the room I was sleeping in, which was in a holiday house where i hadn't ever slept before, I wouldn't have been able to imagine the room (admittedly my subconscious might've memorised the room from one glance)

Originally Posted by Hukif

while also having multiple conciousness up inside of said dream and can also move about in my "room"

You were able to have 2 different dream-consciousnesses that could both move around in a completely different scene at the same time?

Originally Posted by Hukif

I have on two ocassions woken half of my body in order to interact with the waking world while still being in a dream

Were you able to move (parts of) your waking life body here?

Originally Posted by HumanDoing

You were able to have 2 different dream-consciousnesses that could both move around in a completely different scene at the same time?



Were you able to move (parts of) your waking life body here?

For your first question, I won't really answer for Hukif/Walms, but in case you don't know him, he's a natural lucid dreamer that taught himself how to recognize when he is dreaming (iirc) by using gravity. I don't remember if he said gravity simply feels different or he does something with it though, it's been too long since we've talked Hukif we need to exchange some information lol. Anyway, to summarize, typically has has plenty of LDs every night, and he is excellent at controlling the dreams as well. It would not surprise me at all if he has had a dream like that, even though there isn't really a way to prove it.

As far as moving your waking body from a dream, I've actually accomplished that myself before. Granted, I have woken up every time after moving, but from within a dream I can make myself move and wake up pretty easily. I can also move break out of REM Atonia (or Sleep Paralysis if you want to call it that, since technically it isn't the right term) without any issues.

Originally Posted by HumanDoing

You were able to have 2 different dream-consciousnesses that could both move around in a completely different scene at the same time?

Were you able to move (parts of) your waking life body here?

Sorry sorry, you know how life gets one busy.

But yes, in both the different dream consciousness I could move about freely, already got the dream so will share it here.

Spoiler for Dream:

Let the games begin and the chaos of war brings forth sadness.

I’m looking at a novella over the internet, become lucid while typing something because of the gravity and decide to RC, alright... don’t remember the rest, death made me forget this, just remember trying to think of my past dreams to not forget them after death, but apparently it failed.

Back to sleep.

I’m looking at the TV, the novella is about to end and I can’t remember the start, but then the images come back to me, oh yeah, awesome! Anyway, the commercial starts and I have to do a RC and become lucid, excellent, time to fight Nerimeno.

Summon him to me again, apparently I’m not on FA planet so this is good “Am I free now?” he asks me “No, just changed locations” he attacks me while I’m putting more seals throughout all of DW, his attacks won’t do anything until he breaks free so I don’t care about the attacks, once I’m done tell him to stop “You know what to do, stop making as if it hurts me at all...” “I told you already, no” oh well time to... wake up? Oh no, this won’t happen again, stabilize properly and continue talking “So you won’t fight?” “No need to fight you” he says “Ah, but if I tell somebody...” he interrupts me “You can’t black mail me, she knows all about me” he says “Oh no, I don’t mean her, I mean telling you” he seems confused, soon the confusion will be over, he tries attacking me again “Fine I will let you kill me, that way she will die too, after all we are connected” “What?” “You forgot? I let myself be hit last time for just that, now she is my little puppet” he goes into rage, I teleport to a football field and wait for him, he arrives flying and stops there, he lets his wings out “Serious now?” he nods.

“Well then, show me!” he releases his energy and the seal holding him down breaks, after it breaks the air around makes a vacuum, and right after there is an earthquake “This planet is afraid? Awesome boy!” of course getting distracted allows him to hit me a bunch of times, I’m set flying and by the time I notice, the field is far away from me, fall down and see him above me, I’m all bloody and happy, he kicks me where I’m and makes a giant crater, more blood!!! But the crater is bad, use my blood to make new drawing seals and use “time stop” all over that system, now the planets will be way harder, no need to be scared.

“Where is she?” “The fight is just starting boy, don’t be so impatient” I tell him, he lifts me and glares at me “Won’t SAAAAAAY” he prepares to punch me and I go into nightmare mode right before his punch reaches me, then devour his whole arm, he moves back and I teleport behind his other arm, eating it. “Didn’t you learn with my ancestor?” he heals and attacks again, we exchange attacks for a while until I hear sound from waking, the confusion lets him rip off my hand and send me flying back again, of course move my hand cells and strangle him then put a momentary seal on him while I solve the problem with waking, go into half-awake/half-asleep state, that way I won’t be woken up nor interrupted anymore.

He breaks free quickly, but I was given enough time, I start playing music on my mind, time to play with him, make a bunch of curtains appear all around a certain place, he doesn’t rushes though and walks back then sends a fireball my way, I wait for it and then break it before it can reach a curtain “Ole!” he then teleports behind me, on the part outside of the place “This is why I like you!” he figured a weakness with only one attack, but I was prepared, teleport to another one and then move all the curtains and start attacking from several angles all at the same time, he tries blocking but won’t work, I hit him several times and wait for his response, he used to talk back... oh well. He gets tired of this and makes a giant fireball form all around the curtains, I move back with a curtain and use it as a shield, before I’m out of the fireball he is cutting it with his tail, use ex-equip and make a blade appear to protect myself, he continues to attack, arms, legs, face, tail and wings all serve as weapons, so I have to use several weapons all at the same time along with claws, when he throws me back remember why I was eating him “Tenryū no Hokou!” special dragon fire only for him, he is taking by surprise and thrown back, I take this chance to start splitting my consciousness. There are three, but the last one, my other female prey is only for finding her, so yeah.

Me vs. Nerimeno Wife of Nerimeno vs. Army of armor people
He gets the fire off and attacks me, I quickly ex-equip the swords, think he feels the wife at the other side and starts holding back again “AHAHAHAHAHA don’t give me that shit, you won’t do much like that boy” “SHUT UP!” he says and breaths some fire towards me, I jump above it and infect it with my energy, steal his fire and send it back to him while using the matrix sense, he teleports behind and is meet by a rock wall from behind, he goes back.

He attacks again and I let him strike me with his tail, his next attack is the black sword, time to use “Phantom Mirage”, when he cuts me I use the mirage, since it releases a lot of youki he doesn’t notices me, that and his worries for the wife, he enters in panic since I would pretty much die from those cuts “Don’t worry, I won’t go easy on you” I say from behind while smashing him down with a gravity bomb.

He gets back up and glares again “Afraid to kill me and her?” he tells me to shut up again and attacks with more black swords, I just use mirage to block, but he gets the hang of it soon, so I change with the other style of mirage to confuse him, he really needs to stop holding back. He gets tired of that and sends a giant energy ball my way; I send my hands back and forth “Diamond dust!” I make some arrangements to it so that it will form a frozen barrier around me, Nerimeno teleports above and sees the barrier, then moves away to not be hit by his power, once the power hits he is cutting the barrier with the black sword, so I ex-equip a sword of my own and block “It creates energy” I say happily, we continue attacking each other for a short while “Diamond dust!” he teleports away waiting for the barrier, but this time it is only the freezing dust around him, it of course does nothing so he counters, I jump back and move it to his eyes, when he is hit start attacking him and prepare time distortion, he uses his energy and blows the dust away, too late, the nuclear explosions start and he has to teleport out of range, I do the same thing and make a water shield.

He throws a fireball as soon as he can and I make the shield turn into a whip, and then move my hand back and forth to break the fireball, he appears behind me, looking at my eyes “Fire is stronger” he says “Don’t tell me?” I teleport to the front and see another fireball, this one feels different though, especially since he is blocking my teleportation after the fireball, teleport with the other kind and try to make it mine like last time, however the heat makes my arm become nothing more than ash, I have to protect the rest of my body and move back while transforming my mouth “Time to eat!” I say and eat the fire, it was so hot that fusion was starting to happen; eating that of course allows me to use another Tenryū no Hokou on him, it won’t work like last time but whatever.

He gets out quickly, at least I got to heal my hand, take out a water gun and make it condense, then shot at him and pierce his hand “You said what?” he gets angry and jumps straight at me, I make more whips of water around me so he cuts them with the black sword, awesome, that thing can cut and destroy energy, so I use that to my advantage and allow it to help me create more explosions, this time he burns it down with raw energy “Boring boy…” teleport in front of him and stop… the wife is in danger, he hits me.

I can’t let him do that, but I don’t want the wife to die… have to do something quickly, start blocking and evading, but soon it’s hard to do it.

The other girl hits me with anti-dark energy magic, I’m thrown back in the fight vs. Nerimeno, I think he senses it and tries something similar, it throws me further back and I feel… pure. “Idiots, I’m not the same as that man” I say and transform that white back to black, Nerimeno won’t let this slip away just like that, so he continues attacking me, I’m starting to feel groggy… this is bad.

I try to block his attacks, but before I know it all my limbs are torn apart and he is starting to make a sealing power, won’t happen while I’m alive! “Oh Nerimeno”… I take out a sword for her, time to go defeat that army, start hacking through their armors as quick as I can and use some light/fire magic to accompany. There are too many stubborn idiots though, death doesn’t seems to scare them, so use another tactic, infect their helms and then make them smaller, that cracks the skulls of some, the sight disgusts them and they are finally afraid of me “Now hear me out idiots!” they attack regardless… fine, use puppet magic on them, that will have to do for now, also steal their armors so that nobody will see the face of the woman.

Once I’m in control of all the armor idiots send them with a small program to attack the house of the little girl, I too teleport there.

First thing first, make them a bit stronger or they wouldn’t be useful, apparently the boost makes them loyal without puppet, so I let them free “You know what to do” I say and move, we are in a mansion, there is a small house outside of it and the girl is there, she got tired of garden work me thinks, that and she was talking with a big man.

As I enter, the big man gets close to ask what I want, so I throw him out of the way “I came for you” (Just touch her, everything else is secondary) before I can reach her though she tries to knock me out with some weak energy, teleport behind her and grab her by the pony-tail, it breaks quickly though… she yells for some reason and the big man comes back, he hits me on the head so I have to cut him in two, as soon as I do that she yells at him, I bet that’s his name and hits me at the same time, I have to let go, but quickly regain my senses.

Teleport my hand to her leg and she falls down “Not so fast”, she uses an energy beam to try and escape so I teleport above her and prepare to kill her, as I’m sending my sword down her throat the armor people stop me, they are afraid of someone else, I can sense it “What are you doing idiots!?” they surround me so use the thorn-path and cut them down, it’s like puppet but easier to use and weaker, a lower one.

They start falling apart one by one; when I’m done the girl looks at me with a really pained expression on her face “What?” “Why did you kill your friends” she says “They are not friends, mere puppets” not like I need to explain, prepare to kill her again when the rest of my army appears… she throws me away with a power that smells like roses and plans to help them, I get up and close my eyes “Gravity net” they all fall down “It won’t hurt, I promise” I say to her, she points a sword in front of my face, shaking “Now you can kill, babe?” throw her sword away and kick her, prepare to take her, no need to kill her really, she can’t kill me.

As I’m taking her away, she tries to use another energy attack on me… strange, she does intend to throw it, and that thing can kill the wife, I can’t let that happen, throw her away and cut the ball while flying away from it.

Without notice, a giant dark-green snake comes by and bites me, stab it with the sword and it lets go, I stay there in the air and look at the snake, it throws an acid smoke-screen so I have to cut through, when I’m out an energy ball comes from the girl, I try to avoid it but it hits the helmet, I fall down and the girl forms a sword that can only cut dark beings, I let the wife back on the body so it only cuts the armor, then go back. Once the armor falls the girl seems surprised, the snake bites me again and I lose my arms “Stop!” says the girl, the snake stops.

The girl flies up to me in tears, she looks sad somehow and worried about something, I don’t understand… not like it matters, the injuries the snake did will be enough to kill the wife, but I already did what I went to do. “I won’t let him hurt you… I will heal you…” she says. She hits me with an anti-dark energy attack, she thinks its working, there is a response and the woman gets back on the body.

When I transform the energy back in my original body, take back the control of the wife, both the snake and the girl are thrown back and lose balance, now I just need to heal the woman, but since I can’t move much the girl tries again “I won’t let him hurt you!” she is determined and gathers flowers, somehow that will help? “Heal me, why?” she looks at me “I’m not talking with you” she says “But you don’t need to…” she ignores me again “Oh well, it is just that”…
“Let’s all cheer up, after all, this is ALL FICTION!” my power from Kumagawa Misogi, I make the event of being hurt to death become nothing, both the girl and my original body heal back, I use the same gravity wave with both bodies and they are both thrown back, use ex-equip and take out a sword that creates for me and a saw-one for the wife, time to play!

But before that, I should break my ties to dream world, use the seals to break that apart, password “Break, universe” after that I’m free from using whatever I want to use.
Nerimeno looks calm now “If you can do that, then I don’t need to hold back anymore!” he says, well something good came out of all this, excellent.

Nerimeno puts black swords in his arms, wings and tail then jumps at me, I split the sword in two and start blocking his attacks while using puppet “Finally!” he still won’t talk to me though, just continues to attack, the other me gives me an idea, so use flowers to attack Nerimeno “her favorites!” he loses concentration for a second and I can hit him several times with puppet, he gets fed up with this and creates a giant energy ball.

I dive my hand on his power and infect it, he lets go of it, I teleport above him and smash the attack down, he teleports away, not working. The attack lets me send a wave of energy, the planet explodes and Nerimeno teleports to outer space, I teleport there with him.

Use a giant vacuum on him “Time to teach you how to use the elements boy!” he copies me and infects the vacuum with his energy, that makes it less hurtful, of course I’m already concentrating the nitrogen in the space and sending it his way, the energy makes it explode and he has to teleport, I take control of the explosion and send him flying down the closest planet with the fire, as soon as he falls down I teleport there and infect the ground, make some diamond-walls go out and close around him, he cuts them with the black sword, make the thing become more complex and make a special material, it won’t break so fast from the black sword, make a sword out of it and jump to action.

He seems surprised about this, the sword should cut through anything that exists “Illogical worlds, remember?” “Humph…” he continues attacking, bad decision, when he prepares to cut me down from behind with a teleported tail, I split the sword and send it flying his way, it hurts him greatly but he heals the wounds quickly.

Before he is done healing I already have an oxygen/hydrogen net waiting, he looks at it and just cuts it, bad choice, the water falls on him, and I have modified it to make it’s polarity dangerous, even more so than most acids, it burns his armor and enters the muscle, where I make use of the water to break them down “This is how you use them!” he doesn’t cares and takes the water out, I’m already in front of him and start eating him, he uses his special attack and I have to back down, but also use some more earth-spikes to attack and a vacuum bomb above him, so he has to teleport while healing, I teleport in front of him and start hitting him with claws and puppet, he makes a bomb out of his outer skin and I have to block using a special kind of dance.

He starts using a lot of different kind of attacks, from my matrix sense, black swords from everywhere, dragon scales from several places and some small energy bombs “Midnight dance…” another special kind, I block the black swords and cut the bombs, but the dragon scales get through, I’m hit everywhere and he teleports in front of me and cuts me in two, mirage! He cuts the real me though and I teleport my brain somewhere else and heal back up, he teleports in front of me and use another self-vacuum, he blows it away with energy so I’m forced to eat his lower body away and heal the wounds of the swords he had on his body, also teleport away. They are taken by surprise but quickly get ready for action “Don’t worry, I won’t let him win” says the girl again, won’t she learn that it is useless to fight me?

The woman jumps at me as well as the snake, I turn back and use a wind-bomb for the snake then turn back and try to cut the girl, she flies out of the way so throw her back with a sound bomb from my saw, the woman uses a flowers attack, so I cut it through with the saw, the woman continues attacking along with the snake, they are very coordinated for some reason, I continue fighting them both and finally cut the snake, the girl gets angry at this and suddenly becomes stronger.

She attempts to hit me, but fails to do so because each time I use a gravity bomb and her fist will not reach, she finally gets a hit in and I’m sent flying down, not enough to win! Use earth to block her next attack and instead she hurts herself, the girl jumps back hurt and tries to heal herself, like I will let her do that.

When I try to attack the snake gets on my way, so use a gravity attack to send it back down, then prepare a spear of energy to kill the girl, as I’m about to do that a tiger that looks… a bit too big/fat attacks me, I make a wind-shield so the fangs won’t pierce and then make it explode, heal as soon as it lets go “More reinforcements?”

The girl finishes healing and is using more flowers attacks, there is one that attempts to make me fall asleep, that won’t work, instead I use the pollen to ensnare the tiger and confuse it, when that happens the snake makes an acid cloud and makes the pollen useless, so I’m forced to ex-equip a sword above its head and attempt to kill it, the damn tiger though teleports in front of it and makes a shield, use gravity to try and make the tiger kill the snake with its fangs, but it takes the fangs out? The girl is behind me with an energy ball, teleport behind her, hand on her face and smash her on the ground, the snake gets angry and transforms into a human, and he quickly uses a weird attack that tries to use my energy against myself, HA! Infect my energy, he will only kill himself, the tiger takes both of them out of the way and lets the explosion happen around me, I just make a shield, this won’t kill me.

I take two more swords out and jump at them, the girl takes out a sword made of roses and the man is incapable of fighting anymore, the tiger transforms too and attacks, he uses a swarm attack and tells me to stop “No way!” I tell him and use a vacuum all around me, they both are incapable of breathing now.

Someone appears from behind the house and uses a gravity attack above the vacuum, that makes the air fill the place and they recover, so I make an explosion “When will the reinforcements stop coming, uh?”

The person from before makes a giant fireball and throws it at me, I cut it down with the swords and then use some hair-tentacles on all of them, also use an infection attack but they make it go away, interesting. When they all come at me use ex-equip again, a feint? They all disappear and appear behind, as soon as they do that the swords all go my way, I make them go away and block their attacks with more hair tentacles, that won’t do.

They seem tired already, weaklings. Wonder if I should kill the woman already? We continue fighting, but I’m too occupied with Nerimeno to make much progress.
He jumps at me again, use a water pool all around us and make the pressure greater, he isn’t a water dragon so of course it hurts him, I move towards him and try to cut his hand but fail, he absorbed the water, dang him! I have to use dance again though, the water is coming from everywhere, this time I’m absorbing it on my body and transforming it, next time he attacks me close-range use the vapor to hit his face and then send a fireball his way, create another crystal sword and block his black sword attacks with it “Life magic, tree of life” some trees form around him and start strangling him, I try to seal him but he is too powerful for that to work, when he gets free make the resin into acid, it takes him by surprise and I can cut with a pulsating claw his chest, he breaks my arm and takes the claw out of the body.

I’m having trouble healing back now, my energy is low now… he heals but he is weakened too, when he tries to attack me attach the roots at him with dance, he blocks dance and I let the roots break apart to not be affected by that, then try to stop him while I’m talking, he refuses to listen, but I don’t need him to listen.

When he attacks make the sound into a bomb and take another crystal sword, try to cut down his sword but he uses his strongest attack, I block with the crystal in the form of a shield, it breaks down and I have to counter with dimensional claws, as soon as the explosion happens he teleports behind me and pierces me then uses his energy to block most of my powers, I’m too weakened to do much anyway and I let him pierce me… time to continue.

When he pierces me, the wife also gets pierced by all of the others, I touch the girl without them noticing with dance to finish my spell “Don’t kill her” she says, the silly girl.

I tell Nerimeno that I’m taking his wife with me, also activate two atoms of hate at that same moment, one of them makes the perfect clone jutsu to replace the girl, nobody notices of course, the other one is taking down all of the humans on dream world “I won’t let you die” he says and starts making another seal, a weaker one but since I’m weak it’s supposed to work “Karyū No… Kekkai!” he was expecting an attack, not a shield that only works for him, there goes my last bit of energy, I used his lower half to do that so he will be unable to save me from death.

The girl stops talking, they ask her if she is okay, she falls down, they are still unaware of the transfer, I’m just pointing my sword at the girl with the wife, but the wife too will die soon, thankfully I made it so that she would be unable to feel anything from this.

“You idiot, I won’t let you…” “Take her away from you?” he starts crying, how cute “You can save her boy, she will go with my next dream-self” his eyes widen and he tries to break through the barrier, won’t happen “I will tell you how this works, this is a race against time, if you free me before I let her being come back to life, your wife will die but the girl that killed her because of my puppet will survive, however if you free me after she comes back to life, the girl will be already dead…” he interrupts me “So only one of them will survive?” “Oh man, can’t you remember?” he continues trying to break the barrier “They both can survive, you guys need to be smart though, not like unsealing me will be easy, you have to free the devourer of worlds, let the games begin…” I use a time capsule to let myself wake up and write the dream down on paper, so that I won’t forget.

The only body part I tried to move was my mouth, then just kind of forgot about it and kept to my fight because yeah, that was draining most of my attention and who cares about mid-waking morning pre-school life? Yep, not me at the time.

And yep snoop, we need to talk again dang! Your experiences were incredibly amazing with SP. Still feel jealous.

Dang, the dream isn't like in my journal... anyway, there was supposed to be columns separating the conciousness bits.

Ah, no I don't know Hukif, but I notoced the 6584 LD count, so I assumed he is quite experienced :p
I found this
http://www.dreamviews.com/induction-...-tutorial.html

That's a very interesting and unique technique, much respect for thinking it up!

I could imagine someone that experienced could create an experience like that, I am however not experienced at all with stuff like that, it just happened out of nowhere. So you guys don't believe in astral projection?
I used to try very hard to get OBE's about 2 years ago, but it never happened. One night I did find myself standing in my room next to my sleeping body, and I fell backwards into my bed (but sideways, i wouldve fallen of the other end if it was real life) and as i hit the bed, i instantly awoke. First i thought it was an OBE, but later I concluded it must have been a dream, because there were no sensations as described by people who say they've had actual OBEs.
The experience I describe in this thread is different though, because I wasnt asleep at the time, and I had the strange sensations (the fan spinning and the zooming that got louder), i read about people having what they believed to be OBEs describing similar sensations
But I guess theres still the possibility that we are dreaming up all these semsations, im sure it wouldnt be hard to recreate in a LD, but when it comes out of nowhere, it feels kind of.. Mystical

Originally Posted by HumanDoing

Ah, no I don't know Hukif, but I notoced the 6584 LD count, so I assumed he is quite experienced :p
I found this
http://www.dreamviews.com/induction-...-tutorial.html

That's a very interesting and unique technique, much respect for thinking it up!

I could imagine someone that experienced could create an experience like that, I am however not experienced at all with stuff like that, it just happened out of nowhere. So you guys don't believe in astral projection?
I used to try very hard to get OBE's about 2 years ago, but it never happened. One night I did find myself standing in my room next to my sleeping body, and I fell backwards into my bed (but sideways, i wouldve fallen of the other end if it was real life) and as i hit the bed, i instantly awoke. First i thought it was an OBE, but later I concluded it must have been a dream, because there were no sensations as described by people who say they've had actual OBEs.
The experience I describe in this thread is different though, because I wasnt asleep at the time, and I had the strange sensations (the fan spinning and the zooming that got louder), i read about people having what they believed to be OBEs describing similar sensations
But I guess theres still the possibility that we are dreaming up all these semsations, im sure it wouldnt be hard to recreate in a LD, but when it comes out of nowhere, it feels kind of.. Mystical

I don't believe right now that there is sufficient evidence for the claims that astral projection and OBEs for me to consider them as real. Personally, I had a really bad drug phase that lasted for some time, and encountered a lot of people during that time making the same claims about drug experiences being real that people make here about astral projection and OBEs. Some of my experiences on drugs have seemed more real than anything I've experienced. The fact of the matter is that, whether or not these phenomena exist or some of the drug experiences people have are actually real, the mind is capable of producing this kind of experience and it is also capable of being utterly convincing. Without any tests that we can reliably get good data from, I'm not willing to believe these experiences happen outside the brain, rather than within.

In that dream it sounds like you're in some kind of anime or video game or something
I found it a bit hard to follow, and I couldn't really make distinctions between different consciousness, the columns seperating it would've made it alot easier if that were possible :p
I noticed near the beginning you wrote "I take this chance to start splitting my consciousness. There are three, but the last one, my other female prey is only for finding her"
It sounds like you are splitting up you're conscious like in animes/cartoons how they duplicate themselves and are able to control the different versions of themselves.

All these different fighting and defending techniques, are they from a particular game or show, or did you think them up yourself? it sounds like you know them off by heart and they come naturally to you, I've had that if I've played a game and then I would be in that game in a dream and use fighting techniques out of that game naturally without thinking about it.
I can't find anything with 'Novella' and 'Nerimeno' on the internet that seem related to your dream, is it a world/story you created yourself?

Interesting how you could control all the different consciousnesses at the same time though and also how you could move your mouth while still dreaming.. seems like it would require quite a bit of focus

Oh, some techniques were from animes, the rest are things I come up with during dreams.
Nerimeno is also a reocurring DC from my dream world, so yeah it is from a world I created myself.

I don't know why the columns didnt work, but yeah it was quite a bit of work to actually keep myself from not losing the dream when speaking and then having my conciousness in three different places was hard and confusing, but well worth it IMO.

Wow awesome Humangoing. Sounds like you experienced biolocation phenomena. As you described it's the ability to be in more then one place at one time. Seasoned projectors know that you can be well grounded in the dreamscape and feel your physical body laying in bed simultaneously. I also like how you call this Tripple consciousness . I think over time you will see dream consciousness and astral consciousness are one of the same as well as waking consciousness. Buddha actually represents spirtual awakening people in buhdist religions aspire to be enlightened like him. Which is essentially realizing your inner power as a universal being. ~namaste