Revisiting the argument about whether astral projection is a type of lucid dream....

I think that astral projection a lucid dream just as a matter of semantics, even if it is also somehow more than that. However, I noticed something when thinking about it this morning that I might not have noticed before. In my other lucid dreams, I've been awake in the sense of being fully conscious, with a visual experience which is as vivid as waking life. However, my environment still feels like a cartoon environment, even if it looks real. Its like being inside something, the dream has boundaries. In contrast, with the astral projection experience, it feels like the strange astral world is a hyperspectral view of the real world, it feels expansive and uninsulated. The childhood lucid nightmares I mentioned in the 'first lucid dream' thread were like that also: the dream of my room didn't seem like a private, holo-deck-like creation, it was like being awake in the real world, but with something else added that's not usually visible in the real world.