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      Quote Originally Posted by RealityShifter View Post
      Nope everything happen subconsciously, I had no intention what so ever. It just happen one upon a month every month. To be honest I just wanted to stop. At that time I still wasn't started to "lucid dream", but when I was young from 3-8 years, I had constant 'lucid dreams'(but I learned that name for first time in 2013). I was thinking that everyone had them. I had wonderful experiences: fly over the city, met angels, fight with demons, visit far away galaxies, but my strongest memory is when I was sitting on rooftop at night and watching the stars. They were really magnificent and I was thinking that I want to visit each one of them. Ops I wander a little bit sorry.

      And now partially answered question, lets add more depth.


      When I get through the gate there was a bright light and I was floating in it. Everything happen so fast I begin to travel with amazing speed. I started to see other stars but from near as if I was to our sun. Then I went into something like a black hole, the speed was increasing, I began to see other solar systems, galaxies, and there was so much information flowing directly into my mind. It was so much that it seemed to change my spirit from within. It was an amazing experience. Then I went into another black hole and the speed became so fast I lost consciousness. I woke up in bed, only 15 minutes had passed since I was asleep.
      Woah, three. That's pretty young. I only can remember stuff from 5 and up. I don't have any other clues to why it occurs than, maybe by now you subtly expect it and it occurs...or not but either way those are amazing lucid dreams to have. Sounds like your a natural lucid dreamer too.About the last dream, what kind of information do you mean? Like specifically.

      Hmm...when it comes to the experience where you were awake, did you check the google map before you got on the road? Maybe it doesn't show up unless your on or near it. About the part where you felt your mind being manipulated, I'm not gonna doubt that you had such a experience. The thing i can't say is whether there was an entity or not present.

      Your experience reminds me of a experience i had when i was a little girl and during recess.It was a rare occurence where i was not in full control of my body. While we were on recess line, waiting to go inside, i looked up to the right and saw a ball in the air, volley ball, falling down in slow motion in the distance. I had a feeling the ball would hit someone in front of me, but when i try to stop it i couldn't move. No matter how determined i was. I wouldn't say i was frightened though. When it finally hit the girl in the face, i was able to move. The girl who it hit supposedly did "dark" things but i didn't consider it fact.

      I don't know what could have caused it to happen but i have a feeling the tensity of the moment did or entities like such exist.(In my case its most likely the former though) However, you said you lucid dreamed about angels, demons and stuff of the sort. When you were taking an unknown road did you not subtly think what if something unknown/mysterious lies in it? If not than i guess its a mystery i can't solve. Perhaps it was an entity. I don't know but i tried with the info you gave.
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      Quote Originally Posted by RealityShifter View Post
      If get my mind back in time and try to remember the feeling, focus focus.
      I feel his presence behind me, but I don't feel fear not joy. I am just one with the moment. I just can describe it like perfect peace. From him I does not sense any emotion, he is just there.
      His presence behind you. Peace.
      Sounds like a guide, to be honest.

      You could try meditating, then when your mind is quiet, return to that feeling of his presence. Remember that feeling. Then ask "what is your name?", in your mind. Then just listen for the answer, as if you just asked a person a question. You might get an answer.

      If it's a guide, it WILL answer, but you might not hear it. Some people receive answers very easily, some people require a lot of practice before they are sensitive enough to hear the answer whilst awake.
      If you're a lucid dreamer, you could do the exact same process in your dreams. Spirit has a much easier time communicating with us in dreams.

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      Nice thread. Only thing I can contribute is a possible explanation for your dream where you felt like you were two places at once.
      Closing my eyes here I opened them elsewhere, but I could not move. With my left eye I could see another room, and on my right I could see my room. The feeling was as if I was in two places at the same time.
      Sounds similar to something I have experienced 3 times in the last year. The last time, a few days ago, I was finally able to confirm what was going on.

      If it's the same as me, you were sleeping with one or two eyes open. Very strange feeling. If it happens again. Try this, it has worked for me. Close your eyes in the dream, and figure out how to "see with your eyes closed". It works. And you'll be able to move.
      Half of the time we're gone and we don't know where...

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      Quote Originally Posted by slash112 View Post
      Wow that's mad!

      I know that some entities study humans a lot. There are "codes" being received and transmitted from us all the time, and I believe some beings out there study the codes. The codes hold answers to things without us even knowing.
      I'm curious now, what kind of codes are you talking about? Can you give an example. Also, you seem to know a lot about guides. Do you have a guide and how does your guide help you? Do you try contacting your guide in dreams or when awake? Sorry for asking so much but i like knowing more about what people think about them.
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      Codes:
      I don't know too much about the codes. But we have an electromagnetic body, I feel it has something to do with this. Spirits see our electromagnetic body and that body holds all the information about what a person is thinking and feeling. Our mind processes a lot of stuff, the vast majority of it we are not aware of.

      You learn something new, your brain processes that in an entirely unique way. This creates a unique code, which I assume is transmitted from the electromagnetic body.

      Now, you gotta understand there is a bigger picture. Zoom out a lil bit and you see that many ETs and spirit beings are watching us and learning from us. Right now we're in "quarantine", just being observed. Sometimes contact is made, to those who raise their vibration and open themselves up to contact. But we don't yet have aliens coming down to meet us and explain directly to us all what's going on around us.

      Sometimes codes are implanted in us. For example the codes to help awaken and raise the vibration of the Earth. These are new frequencies being introduced to the world. Many souls are incarnating on the Earth already having these codes, and some people are implanted whilst on Earth.
      If I was to attempt to "enlighten" you, I would technically be implanting some of those codes in you. So it's not all airy-fairy invisible stuff, some of it you can tangibly see what's going on. Codes are being transferred constantly. Or some codes lay dormant your whole life and are activated by external stuff.


      Guides:
      Well, I talk to my guides here and there. I receive some answers via the use of claircognizance (clear knowing) and clairsentience (clear feeling). I just kinda "feel" the answer. They are always listening, and there is always an answer. I just have to "feel it out". Helps every time, but I can't just like ask "what's your name" and get an answer this way.

      However, I have recently started practicing clairvoyance (clear sight) and clairaudience (clear hearing). I want to talk directly to my guides and my higher self. Since these two are not my natural abilities, it is taking me time, I need to be very patient.

      I fully recognize the possibility of talking to Spirit whilst in dreams, but I've never done it. My dreaming life has been terrible for the past few years because of smokin' stuff. But that hurdle will soon be over and I will start talking to my guides and higher self in lucid dreams. I'll also get into astral projection.

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      Quote Originally Posted by DawnEye11
      About the last dream, what kind of information do you mean? Like specifically.
      It wasn't a dream I can't say specifically, but the information was directly uploaded in my sub-mind. If I need to compare it to computer data, it was like maybe hundred even thousand of terabytes.

      Quote Originally Posted by DawnEye11
      Hmm...when it comes to the experience where you were awake, did you check the google map before you got on the road? Maybe it doesn't show up unless your on or near it. About the part where you felt your mind being manipulated, I'm not gonna doubt that you had such a experience. The thing i can't say is whether there was an entity or not present.
      No I didn't check because I wasn't had android phone yet. My mind it wasn't manipulated more like probed. (but i am not talking about aliens). It was definitely a entity(on the road i mean), the only thing I felt about him was that he was very old perhaps older than the earth itself. And the energy that I sense was pouring inside my body and charging every cell in my body. I think, no I know it was an earth energy point. I think this power give me the opportunity to slip through the veil of worlds.
      Quote Originally Posted by slash112
      if it's a guide, it WILL answer, but you might not hear it. Some people receive answers very easily, some people require a lot of practice before they are sensitive enough to hear the answer whilst awake.
      If you're a lucid dreamer, you could do the exact same process in your dreams. Spirit has a much easier time communicating with us in dreams.
      I didn't try that yet, but I already met my lucid dream guide, it was a profound experience.(and saw a Tibetan monk with a long beard, it was bald(so shiny) and had taken the usual lotus posture. He too say some interesting facts about the universe.)
      Quote Originally Posted by LighrkVader View Post
      Nice thread. Only thing I can contribute is a possible explanation for your dream where you felt like you were two places at once.


      Sounds similar to something I have experienced 3 times in the last year. The last time, a few days ago, I was finally able to confirm what was going on.

      If it's the same as me, you were sleeping with one or two eyes open. Very strange feeling. If it happens again. Try this, it has worked for me. Close your eyes in the dream, and figure out how to "see with your eyes closed". It works. And you'll be able to move.
      I know what you mean, I already fall asleep with one open eye, even with two.(if somebody was to see he was about to crack). But in my case I was stuck between two dimensions.

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      Quote Originally Posted by RealityShifter View Post
      I didn't try that yet, but I already met my lucid dream guide, it was a profound experience.(and saw a Tibetan monk with a long beard, it was bald(so shiny) and had taken the usual lotus posture. He too say some interesting facts about the universe.)
      Just remember we all have many many guides. Each for a specific purpose.

      I think we all have a "primary guide", which stays with us from birth to death. We have others that stay. And we have many which come and go.

      That's cool as hell btw tho, Tibetan monk dream guide.

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      Quote Originally Posted by slash112
      Wow that's mad!
      Right, but I know now that the next part is going to make everyone blood freeze and the last part will make everyone jaw-drop

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      Quote Originally Posted by slash112 View Post
      Codes:
      I don't know too much about the codes. But we have an electromagnetic body, I feel it has something to do with this. Spirits see our electromagnetic body and that body holds all the information about what a person is thinking and feeling. Our mind processes a lot of stuff, the vast majority of it we are not aware of.

      You learn something new, your brain processes that in an entirely unique way. This creates a unique code, which I assume is transmitted from the electromagnetic body.

      Now, you gotta understand there is a bigger picture. Zoom out a lil bit and you see that many ETs and spirit beings are watching us and learning from us. Right now we're in "quarantine", just being observed. Sometimes contact is made, to those who raise their vibration and open themselves up to contact. But we don't yet have aliens coming down to meet us and explain directly to us all what's going on around us.

      Sometimes codes are implanted in us. For example the codes to help awaken and raise the vibration of the Earth. These are new frequencies being introduced to the world. Many souls are incarnating on the Earth already having these codes, and some people are implanted whilst on Earth.
      If I was to attempt to "enlighten" you, I would technically be implanting some of those codes in you. So it's not all airy-fairy invisible stuff, some of it you can tangibly see what's going on. Codes are being transferred constantly. Or some codes lay dormant your whole life and are activated by external stuff.


      Guides:
      Well, I talk to my guides here and there. I receive some answers via the use of claircognizance (clear knowing) and clairsentience (clear feeling). I just kinda "feel" the answer. They are always listening, and there is always an answer. I just have to "feel it out". Helps every time, but I can't just like ask "what's your name" and get an answer this way.

      However, I have recently started practicing clairvoyance (clear sight) and clairaudience (clear hearing). I want to talk directly to my guides and my higher self. Since these two are not my natural abilities, it is taking me time, I need to be very patient.

      I fully recognize the possibility of talking to Spirit whilst in dreams, but I've never done it. My dreaming life has been terrible for the past few years because of smokin' stuff. But that hurdle will soon be over and I will start talking to my guides and higher self in lucid dreams. I'll also get into astral projection.
      I dont recall learning about our body's having electromagnetic fields before. Its interesting. Reminds me of something windhover explained as well. I googled it to understand it more too. I still don't see how it would hold "all" the info of what were thinking and seeing but I see how it could hold that type of info.

      Hmm...I have zoomed out before, so to speak, but haven't encountered proof yet of such entities. Also, I don't understand the "raising the vibration of the earth"part. Did you mean the people of Earth? By "tangibly see" what specifically is being seen?

      Clear sight and hearing. That seems tricky but than again it reminds me of how those whom believe in God get an answer. Since he doesn't directly speak to humans.
      It's also great that you plan on working towards your goals by quitting smoking. I admire your determination.


      Realityshifter, im too sleepy to reply now but ill reply tomorrow.

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      To be honest I don't know much about the electromagnetic field. (I know our brain has electromagnetic fields because of the electrical impulses, and I reckon the whole nervous system in the body must do too. But I don't know much about the spiritual aspect of this).
      Spirit sees all anyways, so I guess it doesn't even matter about the electromagnetism

      I've not seen much fantastic proof of the entities myself, but I have gathered a tiny bit. You couldn't even really call it "proof", but it is pretty much like "proving it to myself".

      One thing that gets me is, I have heard so many accounts of experiences that people have proven to themselves, that it's very hard to ignore.

      Also, I heard one time that you can summon ET lightships into the sky by sending them psychic messages of love.
      So I did that, I stared out the window, calmed my mind, and built up a massive feeling of love and I sorta aimed it into the sky.
      Then I saw like 20 lights flash into the sky one-by-one. It was fuckin amazing. That same night, I was sitting on the couch and I decided to send love to any entities that happen to be around me or watching me. Next thing I know, I feel a very clear presence behind me. And I sorta hear this weird clicking noise. I was so certain that if I turned round I would see an alien standing right there. So I never turned round, I didn't feel ready to experience that at the time. So I just said, in my head "Sorry... not now, not now. I love you though. Thank you."
      Entities have been really shy about contacting me since I responded with fear. I only get difficult to interpret messages now.

      The Earth is raising in vibration, on a whole. This is something that's happening as we speak. It's the people, yes, but also Mother Earth herself. New frequencies, higher frequencies, are being brought into the world rapidly. Low vibrational stuff like hate and fear is starting to disappear because of this. But we're in a transitional stage right now, so a lot of chaos.

      And when I said "tangibly see", I mean like, our everyday interactions play a part in spirituality too. You smile at someone on the street, that's a tangible, visible way of raising both your own vibration and the vibration of others. And that smile implanted a code in the other person.


      God can and does speak directly to humans. All the time. It just never seems direct. But it is. Heck even when a guide speaks to you, that is God speaking through the guide. And even when a friend speaks to you, or even me speaking right now, that is God speaking. God can answer you through music, through your thoughts, through your dreams, through your social interactions, anything.
      But yeah absolutely, if you believe in God, you will receive your answer. If ye don't believe, the messages will fall on deaf ears.


      Sorry for hijacking this thread!

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      If we are being scientific then I believe it would be more correct to say that the body is an electromagnetic field than that it has one...

      The current scientic paradigm says that the universe is "energy". I never subscribed to that idea... I always figured it was "dream". But recently read someone calling it "mental" and I prefer that..
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      Well said LighrkVader!

      I was actually thinking something along those lines earlier, but I never voiced it.

      Absolutely, all is energy. All is dream. All is consciousness. All is mental. I like any of these.
      So I suppose from this point of view, everything is an electromagnetic field...
      Hah. Brilliant, man.

      (Btw LighrkVader, your post count right now is at 111. Dunno if you're into this shit at all, but angel number 111 is a message that says "Keep your thoughts positive, because your thoughts are manifesting instantly into form.")

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      I saw you and darkmatters wrote about that stuff a few while back, but I don't know about it no. Anyhoo, I took the angels advice and tried to stay extra aware of my thoughts at school today. I'm at 113 now. Does that mean it's worn off?
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      Aha nice one! No it's not something that wears off really. It's just that a wee message came through that can help you with life.

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      Quote Originally Posted by slash112 View Post
      To be honest I don't know much about the electromagnetic field. (I know our brain has electromagnetic fields because of the electrical impulses, and I reckon the whole nervous system in the body must do too. But I don't know much about the spiritual aspect of this).
      Spirit sees all anyways, so I guess it doesn't even matter about the electromagnetism

      I've not seen much fantastic proof of the entities myself, but I have gathered a tiny bit. You couldn't even really call it "proof", but it is pretty much like "proving it to myself".

      One thing that gets me is, I have heard so many accounts of experiences that people have proven to themselves, that it's very hard to ignore.

      Also, I heard one time that you can summon ET lightships into the sky by sending them psychic messages of love.
      So I did that, I stared out the window, calmed my mind, and built up a massive feeling of love and I sorta aimed it into the sky.
      Then I saw like 20 lights flash into the sky one-by-one. It was fuckin amazing. That same night, I was sitting on the couch and I decided to send love to any entities that happen to be around me or watching me. Next thing I know, I feel a very clear presence behind me. And I sorta hear this weird clicking noise. I was so certain that if I turned round I would see an alien standing right there. So I never turned round, I didn't feel ready to experience that at the time. So I just said, in my head "Sorry... not now, not now. I love you though. Thank you."
      Entities have been really shy about contacting me since I responded with fear. I only get difficult to interpret messages now.

      The Earth is raising in vibration, on a whole. This is something that's happening as we speak. It's the people, yes, but also Mother Earth herself. New frequencies, higher frequencies, are being brought into the world rapidly. Low vibrational stuff like hate and fear is starting to disappear because of this. But we're in a transitional stage right now, so a lot of chaos.

      And when I said "tangibly see", I mean like, our everyday interactions play a part in spirituality too. You smile at someone on the street, that's a tangible, visible way of raising both your own vibration and the vibration of others. And that smile implanted a code in the other person.


      God can and does speak directly to humans. All the time. It just never seems direct. But it is. Heck even when a guide speaks to you, that is God speaking through the guide. And even when a friend speaks to you, or even me speaking right now, that is God speaking. God can answer you through music, through your thoughts, through your dreams, through your social interactions, anything.
      But yeah absolutely, if you believe in God, you will receive your answer. If ye don't believe, the messages will fall on deaf ears.


      Sorry for hijacking this thread!
      Okay, thanks for explaining.: )

      The experience you had sounds cool but if there wasn't someone with you, how do you know it wasn't just from your mind? Lol Its funny to think of them as shy but yeah, I guess they would take precautions as to not make you panic.

      If hate and fear disappeared wouldn't it be bad though? Fear can help us make the decision that saves us and hate I think has some use. It adds to our human Character. Although I admit that too much hate is not good.

      I get the vibration thing now though. Its sweet to think of the world that way. The way you explained it also makes me think of memorable memories.

      To be honest, I don't know if a God exists. When I did have more faith in his existence, not that I don't consider it a possibility now, I was more open to indirect, hidden messages. But after so much indirect teachings and not understanding why he does the things he does, I don't want to get into religion anymore. Im just gonna rant a bit, I don't mean any offense but I'm tired of reading religious books and listening to teachings from humans. If God existed I wish he would teach like he planned in the beginning (Bible) with Adam/Eve or like with moses or Jesus. Except the parts where your executed for a sin. I also don't like that chaos must occur for quite a while till there is peace, for others to realize that humans can't rule themselves. I know God, so to speak, black lists the humans whom can't learn or try to Learn/Act in a righteous manner, despite imperfection. I know that eventually those who have hurt so many cease to exist but I wish those whom were innocent weren't left to face such torturous moments while he wasn't aware or decided not to act because he plans on bringing about peace in the future. In the end I don't really know what God wants. No human or angel or demon could probably convince me other wise. Probably only a one on one conversation with God. But it would probably be mostly me expressing my discomfort about the past and the present. Even though we aren't suppose to burden ourselves and hold the weight of the world's problems.

      In the end the dead would probably accept their passing and move on to better situations. Especially since it has passed. But I feel like if I was one of them I would still be upset. Cause what they had to go through was painful emotionally/physically and because of someone's selfishness and because of power and putting people to the test, others had to go through something awful that caused them to lose their life. Like for example, in the bible Job loses his sons/daughters because of Satan and he is blessed in the end with new children. While the others are supposed to be resurrected in the future and life goes on. I suppose what upsets me more is that those who took life and continue on like life was a game. Life can sometimes be like a game but playing with peoples feelings/lives for the sake of testing/living life like a game makes me mad.

      Life isn't a fun/violent demo game to me. I dislike looking at Earth like a testing ground. To me life is a chance given to live, i'am living with others, while learning and trying to maintain peace and etc.
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      Indeed I couldn't really say if it was from my mind or not.
      But there are many people who have proven to themselves. For example receiving accurate information from entities or from the akashic records.
      I intend on finding proof for myself, as I feel awfy left out right now xD There's a whole universe of information that I can nearly reach but not quite.

      Fear is massively misunderstood. People think it is necessary. "Why do I not walk off the edge of a cliff? Fear of death."
      But you gotta understand that fear is not necessary.

      Can you think of any situation where fear could NOT be replaced by, let's say, common sense?


      And about God. God is massively misunderstood too.
      The God, the one and only true God is ALL. I could ask you to imagine the entire universe, then imagine all the dimensions (time, possibilities, and more). You'd be one step closer to imagining God. God is literally ALL.

      Now, you get other Gods, which are not this one true God. Even the God in The Bible is not the One true God. It's close to it. It's the "Father", the masculine. The one true God is more like the "Mother", the feminine in which everything arises. I could continue about this but I feel I would only spur confusion at this point.

      Then you get all the other crazy Gods that religions talk about. They each represent a piece of the cosmos, sorta.


      And as for bad stuff that happens. The way I see it is, there would be no such thing as "light" if "dark" didn't exist. How do we know happiness without comparing it to sadness?

      Also, don't worry, Earth is by no means a testing ground. Earth is a growing organism. It's an evolving lifeform which we are all part of. I don't see it as a game either, it's a beautiful play of consciousness.
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      Reality Shifter, I thought it was a dream to you cause you mentioned you were asleep. My bad. But that feeling you got where you were filled with info, so you forgot the info or it was just a feeling? You think the power gives you the ability to go to other worlds? I think if a entity did it, it would want to do that to you. But by mistake, not really. Either way hearing about your experience was interesting and I hope you find more answers to your experience. ^w^
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      Religion is very valuable. But for the secular mind to learn to see it's value you must be willing to see it with new eyes. Scratch everything you think you know about christianity. I can tell from what you write that your understanding of it is far more literal than what was intended... No religion is supposed to be taken seriously. Suffering comes to those who take seriously what the gods put on earth for fun. There is wisdom beyond belief hidden in the sacred texts, but it's not always obvious what it is. And taking everything taught by a single religion at face value is obviously madness. Learn instead to find the value hidden in the stories, koans, myths of different religions... This is not easy.(edit:youtube makes it easier) But the truth is that they're all talking about the same things in different ways.

      Some of these truths, especially one... about the nature of self and God were kept esoteric in most of the world (save india) for good reason... And I am one of those who still believe that it is a knowledge best taught to those who seek it out and find it on their own. I don't practice that on this forum though.

      Jesus, wanted to share it... "I am the son of God, God incarnate". And that was problematic. The Jews and the later Christians both agreed on it being best for society if it remained a secret and both took measures to silence him.

      The jews killed him. Fair enough. He can't go spreading it any more.
      The christians were smarter, brilliant in fact. They put him on a pedestal. "This man was the son of God, the only one! And anyone, past, present and future who claims the same about themselves are either crazy or false prophets, liars and enemies of God."

      We can't really blame them. They had a political responsibility and did what they taught best for the people. But they nullified Jesus' intentions by "kicking him up-stairs".

      I don't use christianity much as a framework when thinking about spirituality, God and philosophy because I have my own thing that I like best. But if I have the time in my dying breaths you can be sure I'll repent my sins and accept Jesus Christ as my saviour. There is solid reasoning behind doing that.
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      Cmon people please pipe down the off topic

      Reality Shifter, I thought it was a dream to you cause you mentioned you were asleep. My bad. But that feeling you got where you were filled with info, so you forgot the info or it was just a feeling? You think the power gives you the ability to go to other worlds? I think if a entity did it, it would want to do that to you. But by mistake, not really. Either way hearing about your experience was interesting and I hope you find more answers to your experience. ^w^
      The info is in my sub-mind, I don't access to it, only in spirit state. No, he just recharge my spirit energy(maybe the recharge was a side effect). The skill to go to other worlds I have it maybe even before birth. I have always a feeling that I forgetting some really important information about me.(maybe previous life or other spiritual form of existence)
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      I've heard of people looking for the records. Don't know if i've ever read something valid yet but I approve of finding out for yourself. I'm doing the same but in my own ways.

      Growing up fear was necessary for me in certain situations. My common sense wasn't enough.However, even now common sense wouldn't be enough in certain situations. In short, I'm not perfect, no one is, and I accept that part of me. I admit though a little fear does make things interesting at times. The harmless kind of fear.

      LighrkVader, I don't look at God like I follow only words of one religion. I look at what is around me, what I've learned from different perspectives and people. Its kind of disappointing that you assumed from my writing that. But its not like you are supposed to know what i've experienced or how I see things. To be honest, reading what you wrote makes me feel like i'm listening to what I was taught again. Maybe its cause I brought up stuff from the bible. Either way I understand your point but i've been open minded enough to come to a conclusion that its not enough just to read. I'm not looking at this from a perspective of learning values, I'm looking at it as living and experiencing truth.

      I like slash's comparison to life as a play. I can also accept Vader's point of things being placed for fun but certain obstacles as fun, no. I know there is light and there is dark, but like you mentioned before Slash about fear, I feel some dark stuff are unnecessary.
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      Sorry RealityShifter haha. I think it's wrapped up nicely now anyways.

      You have a perfectly awesome perspective DawnEye, I don't disagree with anything you said there.


      RealityShifter. You sound a lot like a Starseed. If you've never heard of that before, Google "Starseed signs" and see if it fits you.

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      Sorry Dawneye. I didn't mean to come off like that. I definitely didn't mean to seem condescending, I was a aware of the chance that I was misunderstanding you so I should probably have asked questions. As you said I cannot begin to know all the dimensions of you, but maybe I sounded like I thought I did.

      All I was really trying to say was that there is a lot of indirect speach and symbolism that is commonly taught and preached as if it was supposed to be taken litterally. And what I thought I saw in your previous comment were problems with christianity and God which usually stem from taking some of the religions teachings litterally. So I was just hoping to get across that the faith most of us have at some point felt betrayed by,(I know I did) is not all there is to it. And like in all the religions you can find things you will love in it and use that to experience truth.

      I don't put christianity above the other religions as a matter of fact I prefer the eastern traditions. The reason I will turn to christ at death is a matter of probabilities and risk/reward.(because it's a game hahahaha)

      (and I assume I'm still misunderstanding you ahaha, but it will have to be for another time. Lets not keep derailing too long)
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      The info is in my sub-mind, I don't access to it, only in spirit state. No, he just recharge my spirit energy(maybe it was a side effect). The skill to go to other worlds I have it maybe even before birth. I have always a feeling that I forgetting some really important information about me.(maybe previous life or other spiritual form of existence)
      Okay. I truly don't know if you could access different worlds that way. Even most OBE people i met, mention that they aren't too sure of themselves going to different places. That doesn't mean its proven though. Maybe OBE really is a thing and your energy can be recharged..... I just feel like you should look at your experience from a logical and spiritual perspective.

      Hmmmmm....Perhaps i'm just saying this cause I haven't really read about someone recharging their spirit energy and going to different worlds without the "i don't know if this happened" as their side note. Well, we are in beyond dreaming so maybe I should stop being so skeptical and worrying about it.

      Also, sorry I went off topic.
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      I know the feeling of receiving that unlimited amount of information at once. I did that while awake once. After the worst experience of my life, a very painful showdown with the dark parts of my psyche, I went into bliss. Being the good guy that I am I happily told my friend and a crowd of my new found disciples all the secrets of the universe. Unluckily I was speaking in tongues. Pro-tip. If you're drunk and buying weed from shady strangers on the street in Budapest... start by smoking just a little bit, and see what happens.. Especially if you don't know your way home. Some laced substances take a while to hit... and you might spend the night flat on the ground with a crowd of worried onlookers.

      Anyway it was a transformative experience. But those states are so different from everyday consciousness that any memories that are made are unaccesible. Typical for dissociative drugs. But from what I know it is also the case when similar states are induced through more natural means.
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      Quote Originally Posted by LighrkVader View Post
      Sorry Dawneye. I didn't mean to come off like that. I definitely didn't mean to seem condescending, I was a aware of the chance that I was misunderstanding you so I should probably have asked questions. As you said I cannot begin to know all the dimensions of you, but maybe I sounded like I thought I did.

      All I was really trying to say was that there is a lot of indirect speach and symbolism that is commonly taught and preached as if it was supposed to be taken litterally. And what I thought I saw in your previous comment were problems with christianity and God which usually stem from taking some of the religions teachings litterally. So I was just hoping to get across that the faith most of us have at some point felt betrayed by,(I know I did) is not all there is to it. And like in all the religions you can find things you will love in it and use that to experience truth.

      I don't put christianity above the other religions as a matter of fact I prefer the eastern traditions. The reason I will turn to christ at death is a matter of probabilities and risk/reward.(because it's a game hahahaha)

      (and I assume I'm still misunderstanding you ahaha, but it will have to be for another time. Lets not keep derailing too long)
      It's okay. I understand. Certain things are literal, like the belief of a paradise on Earth in the future. However, I don't know if that is true. Just like i don't know if God exists. However, that doesn't mean i stopped looking or holding onto beneficial truths. I also am happy to share valuable things i learned. However, there's specific types of truth that I want to experience. I'm still searching for them.

      XD Uhh, I think if you turn to Christ like that, it could go either way. But yeah, I would do a prayer too. I still pray now anyways. There's nothing wrong with praying to God or to his son.
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