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      *Originally Posted by*Voldmer*

      ^^This is mindblowing! I mean, where is this coming from? My background in physics tells me this sort of thing is impossible. My background in statistical modelling tells me this thing is real. But where is it coming from?*^^
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      Thanks! It is complicated yet crazy simple
      when you accept certain un-provable truths.

      Let us assume E=mc2 has some merit.

      Matter is energy.
      I will say, not that matter can be converted to,
      but that matter is energy.

      This shows when we look at particle physics
      and on the smaller levels things act as
      waves or fields not particles.

      The big bang concept says
      all matter occupied a single space.

      I will say all that matter occupied no space,
      as space is a concept involving matter,
      but we are actually talking about the raw energy.

      We have also come to a concept now that
      empty space is expanding,
      so that galaxies are getting farther apart
      without actually moving apart,
      the space is just increasing.*

      Now, I will say this is all just appearance.

      In fact we still only have that initial energy
      and its appearance as matter is just a trick of the light (lol).

      All this to just say,

      "there is no distance between two points,
      and
      there is no distance between Debra's mind and mine."

      I could do this same thing
      for an item in the Andromina galaxy
      if a conscious being knew what the item was
      and I had some way of focusing on the subject.

      I have not actually been viewing the box,
      but instead trying to
      see it through Debra's consciousness.

      I do not need to know exactly where she lives as I can specify "the woman who wrote this." It may be kind of cheating, but is easier than divining something no consciousness is aware of. That would still be possible as there is a general consciousness to the universe, but with this experiment Debra is feeding info into that consciousness and I just have to find her 'frequency.'
      I will admit that this all sounds like Hippy BS. I am not sure much of what I know translates into language very well.

      Edit: I am aware posts like this make me sound pompous and arrogant. I try not to make too many this blunt.
      Second edit: I may delete this after Debra, sageous, and Voldemor get to see it. I feel it makes me sound like an ass. I am not claiming to be able to reliably do this sort of thing 100%
      Sivison

      In 2009 when a Carol was diligent playing this dream game with me I was sticking 3 big colour full beatles on a window pane. As I moved too walk out of the room I saw my reflection in a mirror. It felt comical. And I sad to my reflection:

      "Is it just me looking through these eyes".

      Meaning

      Is Carol looking through "my" eyes.

      Thank you for discussing this
      Sivason, Voldmer and Sageous.

      Please dont delete anything Sivason
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      I Am Australian

      The Seekers

      I came from the dream-time
      From the dusty red-soil plains
      I am the ancient heart
      The keeper of the flame
      I stood upon the rocky shores
      I watched the tall ships come
      For forty thousand years I've been
      The first Australian

      I came upon the prison ship
      Bowed down by iron chains
      I bought the land, endured the lash
      And waited for the rains
      I'm a settler, I'm a farmer's wife
      On a dry and barren run
      A convict, then a free man
      I became Australian

      I'm the daughter of a digger
      Who sought the mother lode
      The girl became a woman*
      On the long and dusty road
      I'm a child of the Depression
      I saw the good times come
      I'm a bushie, I'm a battler
      I am Australian

      We are one, but we are many
      And from all the lands on earth we come
      We'll share a dream
      and sing with one voice
      "I am, you are, we are Australian"

      I'm a teller of stories
      I'm a singer of songs
      I am Albert Namatjira
      And I paint the ghostly gums
      I'm Clancy on his horse
      I'm Ned Kelly on the run
      I'm the one who waltzed Matilda
      I am Australian

      I'm the hot wind from the desert
      I'm the black soil of the plains
      I'm the mountains and the valleys
      I'm the drought and flooding rains
      I am the rock, I am the sky
      The rivers when they run
      The spirit of this great land
      I am Australian

      We are one, but we are many
      And from all the lands on earth we come
      We'll share a dream and sing with one voice
      "I am, you are, we are Australian"

      We are one, but we are many
      And from all the lands on earth we come
      We'll share a dream and sing with one voice
      "I am, you are, we are Australian"

      "I am, you are, we are Australian"

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      Quote Originally Posted by sivason View Post
      Thanks! It is complicated yet crazy simple when you accept certain un-provable truths. Let us assume E=mc2 has some merit. Matter is energy. I will say, not that matter can be converted to, but that matter is energy. This shows when we look at particle physics and on the smaller levels things act as waves or fields not particles. The big bang concept says all matter occupied a single space. I will say all that matter occupied no space, as space is a concept involving matter, but we are actually talking about the raw energy. We have also come to a concept now that empty space is expanding, so that galaxies are getting farther apart without actually moving apart, the space is just increasing.
      Now, I will say this is all just appearance. In fact we still only have that initial energy and its appearance as matter is just a trick of the light (lol). All this to just say, "there is no distance between two points, and there is no distance between Debra's mind and mine." I could do this same thing for an item in the Andromina galaxy if a conscious being knew what the item was and I had some way of focusing on the subject. I have not actually been viewing the box, but instead trying to see it through Debra's consciousness. I do not need to know exactly where she lives as I can specify "the woman who wrote this." It may be kind of cheating, but is easier than divining something no consciousness is aware of. That would still be possible as there is a general consciousness to the universe, but with this experiment Debra is feeding info into that consciousness and I just have to find her 'frequency.'
      I will admit that this all sounds like Hippy BS. I am not sure much of what I know translates into language very well.

      Edit: I am aware posts like this make me sound pompous and arrogant. I try not to make too many this blunt.
      Second edit: I may delete this after Debra, sageous, and Voldemor get to see it. I feel it makes me sound like an ass. I am not claiming to be able to reliably do this sort of thing 100%
      If that makes you sound pompous and arrogant, I shudder to think what I am. In fact, there is perfect sense in what you say, and even agreement with certain interesting results in physics.

      This experiment has been quite baffling for a long time: a laser beam is split into two (using an optical splitter), and the one resulting beam is polarized (using an optical polarizer). It turns out that the second resulting beam - all of its own - changes its polarity to the opposite of what was done to the other beam. There may be arbitrarily large distance between the point where the forced polarization takes place in the one beam, and where the automatic polarization takes place in the other beam. In other words, it is as if the second beam "feels" what happens to the first, even though there appears to be no ordinary way in which the two can communicate.

      Maybe the explanation is, like you say, that they only seem to be distant from each other, whereas in reality they touch. My view (at least currently) is that space has higher dimensionality than we are aware of, and that the two beams literally touch in one (or more) of the dimensions which we do not ordinarily perceive.
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      So ... is this the real universe, or is it just a preliminary study?

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      I will not delete it, as you guys say it is not pompous. That is good. Here is another way to do this same trick. Just as there is no space between objects, time is not real. You can focus in on the reveal post before it is made, if that makes sense. So I would not actually be viewing the item in the box but would be glimpsing information I 'will' know as soon as the item is revealed.
      Think of these concepts in the terms of a video role playing game. Say in this game there are two cities and a mountain range in between. How much distance is there between them? None. they are only concepts, but as a player you get engrossed in climbing the mountain pass and so on. Now say you have saved your game every time you level up. How much time is there between your level 6 game and your level 20 game? Again, none. The construct with in the game has rules and physics that apply. The player can not walk through walls. Maybe gravity effects thrown objects. However, no walls exist. You can know that the wall does not exist, but the video image of your player still can not walk through it. That is unless you stop thinking of it as real and look at it as code. Then someone could examine the game from the point of view of a hacker, and suddenly all sorts of things are possible.
      I am sorry if that only makes a little sense. Like I said, much of this is hard to put into language, but I try.
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      #33 I see a kitchen funnel shape and also focus in on a tapering end as if something was cut off at a 45 degree angle. I think the funnel shape may just be a outer shell and it could be slightly more of a half ovoid than a true cone.
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      ⚘Sivison⚘ thank you for participating

      You wrote
      #33 I see
      a kitchen funnel shape
      and
      also focus in on a tapering end
      as if something was cut off at a 45 degree angle.

      I think the funnel shape
      may just be a outer shell
      and it could be slightly more of
      a half ovoid than a true cone.
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      Ooops forgot to press the "create countdown" so you got the opening template.
      I had to make a new one.
      Here it is

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      ⚘Sivason ⚘ I think you hit ✔✔✔

      The Moon salt Lamp has two parts.

      I roll the heavy Moon lamp over
      and pull the light globe out.
      The inside of the lamp
      where the light fixture goes "IS" conical-concave.

      Here is a photo that I just took

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      Thanks for showing me that! I could not see how my vision related to this. It is not a profound hit, but those spring things also from the rough shape I was seeing and are at 45 degree angles. Now this is very funny actually! In this one I tried the second trick I posted about. I did not try to see what you saw, but tried to get information I would know soon, by glimpsing what I would see when you posted it. The first photo left me unimpressed. The shadow of the lamp is certainly half ovoid and the shadow of the box is a 45 degree taper. I thought that may be all I picked up on, but now you post a second photo which I would also have eventually known about and there is that funnel shape. I knew before hand this method has been less fruitful in the past. I tried it with one of Waking Nomads remote veiwing games. We had to draw shapes and impressions. I drew an almost perfect picture of Waking Nomads wire rimmed square lensed glasses. He posted a photo of himself holding the object which he took in a mirror. The object was a poster of a fire, and had nothing to do with the glasses. However, I had tried to look ahead at the post and saw his glasses. In this case I saw these shapes. The cone that is at the base of the light is in fact a shell that covers the place the wires connect. I guess I am fairly happy with the results, but yet again, I think the first technique bore better results. Thank you for hosting the game.
      Edit: Oh, I see what you mean. The base is like a bowl with a hole at the bottom. That is a lot like a funnel.
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      So I am trying an entirely new approach based on ideas Debra has talked about before. I asked for clues to this weeks object to come to me in a dream. I do not know what to expect, but have made no attempt to see the object in either of the ways that often work for me. This week is entirely based on looking for clues in a dream. Last night I asked for clues and had a vivid non-lucid dream full of images. It was about a tiger in a huttub.
      https://www.dreamviews.com/blogs/siv...-hottub-86725/

      I can only guess how that may relate to the object. Perhaps it has to do with cats? Perhaps it is striped? It could be a book, maybe even a striped book. Cell phone is an option, or something to do with vision like glasses or a magnifying glass because not being able to read was a big part of the dream. Who knows? I am interested to see.
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      Target 34 ⚘"Spooning spoons"⚘

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      First attempt to use a dream for this: Fail
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      35th Target ⚘Emery boards⚘

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      36th Target ⚘Playing cards⚘

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      Target 38 is "6, one dozen Egg cartons"

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      #39 this item has a neck. I am not sure what that means, we know bottles have necks, so do animals, but the idea holds perhaps to a handle on a brush where the end is larger than the middle. My instict would be to proclaim this a hand mirror, and am getting reinforcing images of it having a handle. So to play it safe I will say just the item has an area that fits the idea of a neck in that it is narrow compared to the body, and that that portion may be for holding it.
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      Target 39⚘Metal book end⚘

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      Does the book end have a larger top than the bottom of the upright? Also is the base narrower where it connects than the front?
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