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    Thread: Taking applications for an official shared dreaming research group (limited spaces available)

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      Taking applications for an official shared dreaming research group (limited spaces available)

      For those interested send a pm with details about yourself and your experience toward lucid and shared dreaming

      Applicants must include information regarding:


      - user name/nick name
      - how long they have been practising lucid dreaming
      - average lucidity count
      - any experience regarding past shared dreaming
      - any other experience or expertise within this surrounding field such as : astral travel, out of body experience, remote viewing, telekinesis etc.
      - time zone

      We will be accepting applications over the next two weeks (from 07-05-19 until 21-05-19) , once all applications have been received we will review and let you know if your application has been successful
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      ^^ That's a good point.

      Since lucidity is not, in my opinion, a requisite for a shared dream, does it really need to be a prerequisite for this study?
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      I’m not planning on applying to this, but I am curious about something. This thread’s title says that the shared dreaming group is official—but there’s no mention of an organization that it’s affiliated with. If I were considering applying, this is something I’d want to know up front—especially since not including it makes the whole thing look rather fishy in a way that just saying, 'hey, want to get a shared dreaming group together?' doesn't. I'd also want to know the premises you would be operating on. There are many different ideas about shared dreaming floating around, and you’re likely to run into difficulties if it turns out your volunteers aren’t on the same page as you.

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      Thanks for all of your applications so far,

      reminder: there is only 1 week left to send any further applications.

      Thank you for your questions, we are only interested in lucid shared dreaming at this point in time - more akin to a telepathy experiment but within the dreaming state.
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      ^^ And again: in my experience, telepathy in the dream state really does not require lucidity; in fact, I would guess that most dream-sharing events (should they occur at all) would happen during non-lucid events. Why the focus on lucidity? Seems like an unnecessary complication...

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      If you are not lucid, how you are gonna know what to do. Isn't this similar to the task of the month. In non lucid state you are just gonna passively think that you are talking with real person, but in reality you are just talking to yourself. Of course, If a lucid dreamer invade your dreamscape and make you lucid, this is a totally another story.^^
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      Well, the OP still hasn’t addressed my concerns—which would have taken all of two seconds for someone with nothing to hide—and so I have to say: yes, this whole thing is decidedly fishy. Signing up for this will mean accepting the authority of an individual who is misrepresenting themself—possibly because they’re trying to take advantage of people’s credulity in some material way or—just possibly—because they have a rather inflated idea of themself and would prefer dictating the terms of an experiment to working them out with other interested dreamers on equal terms. This ought to be a matter of concern for anyone who believes it’s possible to share dreams since they would, essentially, be inviting this person in. Just saying.

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      Why not identify yourself (test1? seriously?) before requesting everyone's personal information? Organization? Location? Salary? Anything to prove your not some cult leader.
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      Quote Originally Posted by PrisonPlanet View Post
      Why not identify yourself (test1? seriously?) before requesting everyone's personal information? Organization? Location? Salary? Anything to prove your not some cult leader.
      we would rather not discuss in public the details of those organising this experiment, but all information will be given (about us) once the selection process has been completed. There is no payment involved. No personal information is asked apart from the timezone the applicant resides in. The point of the experiment is to measure and prove the existence of ESP related phenomena within the dream state through transference of information between 2 or more individuals who of which are lucid within the dream state. A high lucidity and recall rate is vitally important from all applicants

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      NOTE TO SELF: Get lucid in a dream, request details on organizer of shared dreaming research group, and memorize same!

      Incidentally, I support Sageous' view that lucidity is not required. It may be useful, but if the shared dreaming is truly seen as important, the unconscious/subconscious will still make it happen - lucid or not.
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      So ... is this the real universe, or is it just a preliminary study?

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      Quote Originally Posted by test1 View Post
      The point of the experiment is to measure and prove the existence of ESP related phenomena within the dream state
      This shows the experiment is being done with a confirmation bias, which is the tendency to place more emphasis on evidence that confirms existing beliefs than evidence that does not. This can lead to errors in reasoning due to not taking all of the evidence into consideration.
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      Test1, if anyone could achieve telepathy, telekinesis, remote viewing, (at will) it would probably be more valuable than military intelligence. Thats why the scientific american (along with houdini) offered 5000$ in the 1920's (thats almost 70k today) to anyone who could produce evidence of psychic phenomena. You basically want the same thing..except no one knows who the fuck you are.
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      If I was going to do any kind of research on this subject, I wouldn't conduct it online. That way, I would have more to work with.

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      Am I late for the the shared dreaming research group application? It sounds like a rare opportunity, with mobs of lucid dreamers applying and only the most accomplished and elite getting in. Am I good enough, do I measure up?

      More seriously, and partially off topic....The cash awards from Scientific American, Skeptical Inquirer, and others are kind of ridiculous if you read the fine print. The demonstration has to be done in a way that's fundamentally inconsistent with how claimed psychic phenomena actually behave, and the p-values they want are so strict that the vast majority of scientifically accepted results would fail them also. It provides something that people can point to and say "see, psychic phenomena are unreal or someone would have claimed the awards", but in truth its not like that.

      Even more seriously, and much further off topic, since there's clearly no risk that I'll drown out serious paranormal dreaming discussion with meaningless blather....The new Tool release absolutely rocks. It is sold out everywhere, but download it or check out the new songs on youtube.

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      Agreed. However, I'm still skeptical about test1. What's the purpose of experiment? Anyway, I think it's possible houdini was genuinely concerned to find something but you are correct. Rules,/regulations were bad. It's been a while since I read (the witch of lime street..not great but has details) If I recall correctly some of the claims were ridiculous (things dealing with 'ectoplasm' expelling from body). Last, i saw Tool when I was 17 (waterloo nj) with fishbone, primus. Great show. I took home a custom 'fishstick' from fishbone drummer, will definitely check out album.

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      Yeah, shadowofwind, you are way late.
      Old topic, now...
      I forgot to mention that I have done this thing before, my bad but, in an actual clinic with real scientists. Then made us sign stuff. I went through tests, blood tests, heart rate, and everything. I was sort of a guinea pig of the different sorts, it wasn't like this.
      I do have some experience in something like share dreams, how they feel, there is no way you can measure them in an online discussion or a simple survey, study, period. Without doing the survey or a study one on one. (IMO)


      Is it just me, or does this approach reminds anyone of another member that used to be here? I don't know, it's that something I can't put my finger on.
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      Looking at the mob mentality that animates twitter, as an example, I think that people have all the group-think they can handle right now. If the kind of emotional telepathy involved in shared dreaming were proved, an upside is that people would be more aware of what they're already subject to, which can make it easier to avoid being manipulated by it. On the downside, an even larger number of people would be freaking out about their newly recognized vulnerability, or trying harder to subvert it for some kind of advantage.

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