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      shared speculating

      Here's something I seemed to experience while dreaming a couple of weeks ago...

      For me there's an aspect to thinking which is like channeling. There's a spirit that informs my intuition. That spirit is in part a subconscious group think, and "who" is in the group depends in part on who I'm connected to by my thoughts. And the manner of their subtle participation is also influenced by their attitudes and my attitudes about them. So not only are our insights limited by the ideas available to our psychic peer group, so to speak, they also limited by our thoughts about who has wisdom in a particular area. If a perceived expert is not passively facilitating our intuitions, either because of ignorance or because of secrecy on their side, it causes an obstruction that is actually worse than if we were disassociated from them entirely. One consequence of this is that being in a personality cult led by an ignorant person does actually make a person more stupid, and not just for the usual obvious reasons.

      In raja yoga, a person is supposed to be able to gain knowledge on any subject simply by meditating on a subject. In other mystic traditions, like jnana yoga or the Buddhism of The Secret of the Golden Flower, a person is also supposed to be able to ascertain Truth on specific subjects that way. A question I've had for a long time is how prominent figures in these movements have been objectively wrong on some questions if their method works. I think the rightness or wrongness of people's intuitions has to do with who or what else they have in their 'psychic peer group'. So if there's a question we want an answer for and we're not getting one, another possible solution besides finding an answer on our own, through objective experimentation, would be to recognize the limitations of the 'spirit' we are implicitly asking, and ask in a different direction.
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      In ancient times what you just said could get you disappeared real fast.
      It makes utter sense, but those leaders hate the logic in it. As you have stated before the head of almost any group will get sick with power and worship and that makes them poor examples of spirit.
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      Well, God has been in my psychic peer group for a while. But he says that out of a thousand questions he might only answer one. For me the challenge is figuring it out myself. Also, not everyone is always occupied with finding the answer to life the universe and everything, so your results with your peer group might vary. Perhaps you are the one who is supposed to give them answers. My peers asked me how God created the universe and I had no answer to that. Peers are not people you use for your personal information gaining. That would be inconsiderate of what they might want to do with their free will. Just a thought.
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      I think what I meant by 'psychic peer group' is likely a bit different than what you mean, but your points are still valid anyway.

      I think that when you communicate with God, what you're getting has a lot to do with your thoughts about who God is. There's a lot of human psychological and quasi-angelic stuff mixed in. As one demonstration of this, a person can go out on the internet and find lots of examples of things that other people say that God tells them, such intellectually incoherent conspiracy theories or calls to racially motivated violence, which appear intellectually or morally ridiculous from the standpoint of one's own understanding of God.
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