Thread: Telekinesis?!?!? Plz read

i believe in pretty much anything and everything except that....but..... if it does happen to work ....keep posting, although it is actually a very convincing site, anyone can be conving if they have read enough books


but...yes........keep us posted...

I know the wingmakers website
has some really amazing information on the chakras of the fourth dimension
however it does deal with some rather outlandish ting
it is also very very interesting
it is all about faith and beleiving
and I do think it possible
just not possible after reading a website about it, I really do reccomend seeing wicca and witchcraft for a more throughro understanding of what it actually is
rather than the ton of speil and rhetoric that certain people would want to lead you to think
but other than that

have faith and anything can happen

Telekinesis does not work.

That site consists of pure bollocks. Telekenesis is impossible, I am sorry.

Sure.. Telekinesis is possible! I am doing it a lot... in my dreams

Funny how u all say Telekenesis isnt possible when a member named Placebo on this site can do it himself....Dont believe me? Talk to him, PM him..He even had a website posted up about his experience..it was some at this website, and if u read it u will see he talks about Lucid Dreaming, and even lists the link to this site LMAO!!! so, its ok to be centered minded, i understand..You only see what you believe, its ok...Your eyes arent open yet to what is possible...I bet some of you who replied never thought Lucid Dreaming was possible! lol ok..anywho, thanks for your posts


So here is the link



http://www.placebo.serv.co.za/PlaceboTK.htm


dj jones

I'm still waiting for the people that say "TK is not possible. The end." to disclose where they are getting this "fact" from.

..and have been for a few months now, actually.

exactly, there is no evidence to prove that it dont exsist..There is more evidence out there to prove that it does exsist..Just like no one believed Lucid Dreaming was impossible until it was proven..So case closed..

Oki listen up. Your brain is a big chunk of fat with a bit of electrics running through it. How should a chunk of fat be able to lift stuff at distance, in the real world? I can also spout out on the internet, that I can explode houses with my mind, but would anyone believe me?

I enjoy watching shows like David Cobberfield (or what his name is), though I know he is faking

again...another center minded person...you all only believe as far as your eyes can see...

You say our brain is just a blob of FAT, but funny how people can become geniues and all that..wow, just a blob a fat...open your mind, stop using your eyes to walk blindly

Originally posted by Marvo
Oki listen up. Your brain is a big chunk of fat with a bit of electrics running through it. How should a chunk of fat be able to lift stuff at distance, in the real world? I can also spout out on the internet, that I can explode houses with my mind, but would anyone believe me?

I enjoy watching shows like David Cobberfield (or what his name is), though I know he is faking

David Copperfield is an illusionist. Look it up.

Magnets are chunks of iron or "rock" with the ability to attract like metals from a distance. With no knowledge of magnetism, this would seem just as extraordinary as a brain (which is much more complex and something we know Much less about) attracting something outside of itself, now wouldn't it?

(That's assuming TK, if it exists, is born in the brain, in the first place)

It does seem funny how in most cases you would assume the skeptics would be the more reasonable but for this topic as well as many others it always appears to me that the skeptics look like the ones jerking around with their heads up their asses.

I don't see why telekinesis HAS to be so impossible. If you just take a glace at the universe and quantom mechanics, science has destroyed any fathomable idea of what the universe and universal limitations really are.

There is a well proposed theory that's been enduring criticism that shows early humans communicated telepathically, and their subtly and unconsciously we still do. There are also eye witness accounts that certain native people's of australia still do communicate telepathically, completely if they choose it.

And, look what the human brain does to the body? It sends out electric impulses that set off chemical reactions to cause movement. If you paid attention in Science class you'd also know that every piece of matter is merely a cluster of atoms, which are relatively far apart from each other and the sensation of touch is merely reactions between the electrons. Skeptics of telekinesis assume they see the world as something very physical, very fathomable, ascertainable, but it's a whole 'nother monster entirely than we understand it, and because of that, until you can probe telekinesis is impossible with some real arguments then there's no reason to doubt it.

Despite that we don't know every part of the brain's option, we do know what it is made of, and none of that is capeable of moving stuff, bending it or anything.
Until I see actual evidence (no, a cellphone video with a 17 year old bending a spoon is not enough) I don't believe any of this. It's nonsense. Against plenty of natural laws

I think you're a little behind the times to invoke "Natural Law."

Many "nautral laws" are now being held over the fire.

The possibility of non-locality. Wave-partical duality. The holomovement theory. The EPR Paradox. If you want to quote a scientific backing to your opinion, you should really look into a few of these things.

Actually, I'll save you the trouble of searching for it yourself. Here's a thread I started for this reason.

http://www.dreamviews.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=25858

No need to read the first post if you don't want to, but start checking out some of the links. When you've gone through a few pages, come back to me and I'll ask you how well-founded your "fact" that "it's all nonsense" is.

Yeah, we know what it's made of, but it's relatively remarkable. How exactly does the brain move your arm? If it's just a "chunk of fat" like you said,l that'd be impossible. But of course, it cannot only move your arm, but think of complex equations, write literature, ponder the universe, solve puzzles, amazing stuff really.

And before you claim what is and what isn't a natural law just look at the thousands upon thousand of times in history things were claimed impossible, only later with more documented research they found out that their assumptions were a little ill-found, that the universe had a slightly different structure than they thought.

The fact is, with quantum physics, telekinesis is very possible. Why should Quantum Physics be any less likely than the 500 year old pre-assumed natural laws you're thinking of?

Oki, the natural law stuff might've been too much, but still, it's against logic sense, that you with your brain can "magically" make stuff leviate/change shape. And if it has been possible since allways, how come it hasn't been documented, with real and good evidence and not some weird, poorly made site? I have nothing against people believing in telekenisis, but in my mind, it's nonsense.

The link I just gave you is full of probably the most credible information you can find on stuff like this.

The problem is you're thinking with a mind that believes everything documented is presented to the public as a proven phenomenon.
You're thinking with a mind that believes nothing "paranormal" has been studied by credible scientists and proven to have some basis of truth. The consensus of the agencies that study parapsychology (including the US military) is that if things like TK exist now, they are not readily repeatable. They are not statistically significant because as of right now, they may be too unreliable in how often we can use them or too small of an affect..

If you want to talk to someone first hand about it Marvo, plz contact Placebo, he is here at DV and that link i gave earlier is his BLOG about his experience and just him explaining in general TK..He has moved only small objects..the main one a straw..You say that it seems like nonsense to beable to do TK or even that it exsist, But i bet before you even came to this website or even found out about Lucid Dreaming you thought it was impossible..Me, i didnt even know about LDing until i accidently had one just over a year ago, then i got into it..And with in a year and one month, i have had 63 Lucid Dreams..Why? Because You can Train your mind.. If you read through this website and its turtorials, and even research about Lucid Dreaming you will see that you can train yourself to Lucid Dream at will..Hell there are people here right now on this board that can do it..Seeker one of them..

You can train yourself to do TK...You say it seems nonesense, or impossible..but guess what....We only use 10% of our brain in everyday life....What can we do with the other 90%??? Things you probably think.....are nonsense...and Impossible....


SIDENOTE: I'am making a CD..i make my own music beatz and i have a website..the ironic thing is the cd name is called BENDING THE MIND..here is my site

http://www.simusicbeatz.cjb.net

It's still against my logic sense, that any can move/bend objects with their brain.

This Placebo person sounds interessting, but does he have any pictures? Without any real evidences, it could all just be lies, but it could be true aswell. TK is maybe possible, but without documentation, I don't really believe it. I believe lucid dreaming is possible, because thousands of people say they can do it. Also, it makes more sense to me that you can ontrol your dreams, than you can leviate/bend stuff on distance, by concentrating on it.

You also have to keep in mind logic is not an end-all criteria for the human experience. It's a tool, but it's a tool that relies on paradigmal assumptions as well as a deep rooted view on what reality is, both of which usually get eliminated with a taste of good meditation, psychadelics or lucid dreaming.

I mean, with my sense of logic, somebody could easily move something with his mind. Technically, her's moving his arm with his mind, and that's nothing more than electircal impulses, and electrical impulses are firing around constantly... it doesn't seem like such a difficult notion.

Since you're obviously not interested enough in proving yourself wrong to look through another thread for relevant info, I'll drop some in your lap.

http://www.sheldrake.org/controversies/RSA_text.html
http://www.princeton.edu/%7Epear/index.html
http://www.cfpf.org.uk/articles/rdp/caasqp/caasqp.html
On the Lack of Evidence for the Evolution of Psi as an Arguement Against the Reality of the Paranormal
A Compendium of the Evidence for Psi

i know many people have experienced this.
walking under a street light and without warning the lamp either turns off or turns on as you walk under it. believe it?

I move stuff with my mind all the time. Limbs are highly moveable (if one has them and is not a paralytic) and they move other objects when the mind tells them to. I can throw stuff across the room by getting up and using my body with my mind. I'm satisfied with what I have now.

For those who aren't, I doubt that simple meditation 50 times focusing on an object intently will move it. It probably will take more than that. Telekinesis is dealing with moving physical objects with another physical object at a distance. Physical things are bound to physical laws, and thus needs to be explained scientifically. Perhaps through alteration of the brain, or conditioned evolution (forcing us to need telekinesis so that we evolve to adapt to this ability) can we achieve this. I doubt strongly its anything spiritual.

If humans could telepathically communicate years ago, why did we stop and evolve with a supposedly less effecient way of communicating vocally?

This is my opinion, and my opinion states that I do not believe that we have or ever had this ability. Evolution is a wonderful thing, and perhaps we'll attain it later... but we'll more likely die from the world's end or from global warming before we obtain telepathical abilities.
This is another subject that I would loooooove to be proven wrong, and we really can telepathically alter objects now in the fantasy world.

Oh wait, I haven't checked the links above... Perhaps I have some editting to do...

Ok, and here's my edit:
I do remember scientific research and logs about patients who had eaten contaminated fish I think. They had a phenominal ability to manipulate electricity and magnetic fields. They could move paper and such. I thought this was kick ass, so I'll research it more. Perhaps 'telekinesis' exists, just not quite what we would think of it now.

Double edit: Well crap, I just got told it was an X-Files episode, but the whole rumor was started by an insane man at an asylum who claimed he could move his bed at night. False alarm I guess.
Thank you marvo for wording my beliefs better.

Originally posted by DoomedOne
You also have to keep in mind logic is not an end-all criteria for the human experience. It's a tool, but it's a tool that relies on paradigmal assumptions as well as a deep rooted view on what reality is, both of which usually get eliminated with a taste of good meditation, psychadelics or lucid dreaming.

I mean, with my sense of logic, somebody could easily move something with his mind. Technically, her's moving his arm with his mind, and that's nothing more than electircal impulses, and electrical impulses are firing around constantly... it doesn't seem like such a difficult notion.

Yes, indeed you can move your arm with your brain, because they are in physical connection.
You are not in physical connection with a straw, and therefore you shouldn't be able to lift it, unless you are touching it/breathing at it/throwing something at it.

The human body and brain is a biological function, not a magic hat.

To lift something, we need a force that can lift the object. This force is apparently not vissible to the human eye, and it is not in contact with our body. Apparently you can control this force, to leviate objects, if you train your brain hard enough.

And yes, we humans have many times been mistaken on how the Universe functioned, but lately we've dropped all the religion brawl, and now we're going by the scientific ways. We've got a lots of documentation for what we've discovered, and the documentation we see these days, is way more relieable, because we are not influenced by some powergreedy people in the *cough* Vaticane state *cough*

And again, if such a powerfull force as telekenisis has excisted for almost allways, how come we haven't got more confirmation, documentation, prove, evidence, eyewitness, than we've got?

I am a very skeptic person when it comes to supernatural subjects, I know that, but hello, all the stuff we discover and find out is getting confirmed for real. I base much of my knowledge on my own logic sense and what I read. And I base my knowledge on relieable sources. What I find relieable after all. Let me point out, that TK might be possible, and it'd be great if it was, but compared on how stuff is looking right now, my is standpoint non-believer.