Thread: Anyone else met the Night Stalkers and Dream Walkers?

I was going to keep this to myself, but I've decided to share with you all the secrets of dream combat, based on what I call the Law of Attraction in dreams, which I tried to explain here...
http://www.dreamviews.com/community/...ad.php?t=38059

The Law of Attraction in dreams is as follows:
Wherever you direct your attention will create detail. The more attention you give something, the more complex it will become.

This is the most powerful weapon at your disposal. To launch any sort of attack requires you to focus your attention on it to give it strength. But assuming your opponent is a real person, if you can get him to focus his attention on your attack, this will double it's strength, as you are both focusing on it.

Ideally, you want to create a scenario where your opponent is so overwhelmed by the dream, that he sustains your attack completely by himself, with no intervention from you. Use their own minds agains them.
This shouldn't happen with regular Dream Characters, as they require your attention to exist

Anyone who has experienced lucidity, or has attempted the lucid tasks here at dreamviews knows how easy it is to become distracted from your lucid goals. Ultimately it's not about violence, but about who can distract the other first. Of course violence can be an effective method of achieving this.

For an example of this, you can see this entry of my DJ. I count this as a possible DS visitation (and a point for me!)
http://www.dreamviews.com/community/...&postcount=122


**And if that was a real person who followed me into the river that night , congrats. Not many people have the balls to brave those waters, even if you were lucid. I was hoping the busy waters would distract you. It was a good chase, I was impressed.

They would have no power over me at all. Like I said, I would do nothing and let them give it all they have. I could easily stand there and take it with out any harm at all. I would just laugh.

Originally Posted by Caradon

They would have no power over me at all. Like I said, I would do nothing and let them give it all they have. I could easily stand there and take it with out any harm at all. I would just laugh.

If you knew what you were up against. But if they came at you during a regular dream? I think it most likely end up a dream of being chased or hunted like Vortex described.

You are right I would have to be Lucid. But I normaly become Lucid during those kind of dreams. Fear is one of my best dreamsigns.

Originally Posted by The Cusp

I was going to keep this to myself, but I've decided to share with you all the secrets of dream combat, based on what I call the Law of Attraction in dreams, which I tried to explain here...
http://www.dreamviews.com/community/...ad.php?t=38059

The Law of Attraction in dreams is as follows:
Wherever you direct your attention will create detail. The more attention you give something, the more complex it will become.

This is the most powerful weapon at your disposal. To launch any sort of attack requires you to focus your attention on it to give it strength. But assuming your opponent is a real person, if you can get him to focus his attention on your attack, this will double it's strength, as you are both focusing on it.

Ideally, you want to create a scenario where your opponent is so overwhelmed by the dream, that he sustains your attack completely by himself, with no intervention from you. Use their own minds agains them.
This shouldn't happen with regular Dream Characters, as they require your attention to exist

Anyone who has experienced lucidity, or has attempted the lucid tasks here at dreamviews knows how easy it is to become distracted from your lucid goals. Ultimately it's not about violence, but about who can distract the other first. Of course violence can be an effective method of achieving this.

For an example of this, you can see this entry of my DJ. I count this as a possible DS visitation (and a point for me!)
http://www.dreamviews.com/community/...&postcount=122


**And if that was a real person who followed me into the river that night , congrats. Not many people have the balls to brave those waters, even if you were lucid. I was hoping the busy waters would distract you. It was a good chase, I was impressed.

In that case, then wouldn't you focusing your attention on this whole DS thing 'suck you into the black hole' of dreaming about it?

But what's so bad about it? I started doing it 3 days ago and for 3 consecutive nights i've had 1 dream per night that was just so amazing, so awesome.

This morning i had another possible encounter- http://www.dreamviews.com/community/...095#post445095

Thanks a lot, Cusp, for letting us know about that aspect of dream combat! I'm sure it'll come in handy soon enough

Originally Posted by nzguy

In that case, then wouldn't you focusing your attention on this whole DS thing 'suck you into the black hole' of dreaming about it?

It very well could. But being aware of that pitfall is a good start in learning how to avoid it. I'm actively working minimizing such incidents.

It applies equally well to the waking word. For instance there is a lot of bullshit at my job, and I've been carrying these frustrations around, focusing on them and giving them strength, making them worse than they actually are. I try to take a step back and let these things go, but it's not always easy.

As an extreme example in RL, consider the emphasis that was recently put on terrorism. The media lavished attention on the issue until it grew into monstrous proportions. The fear they cultivated was worse than the actual danger.

I believe I might have been attacked just a little while ago. If it was someone who attacked me in a dream I do not think they are happy by the results.

It all started when was in the car with my mother. A group of 3 people tried to attack us. At this point my God Defense started to kick in because I started to use lightning attacks from clouds in order to attack the people who were attacking me. The attack seemed to be over at that time.


Some how they later within the dream kidnapped a family member. I was able to find the family member by pulling up a display screen not attached to anything that mapped her location and my location. My dream self used this map to guide me to a older building.

There was a relationship between me and the dream world. Basically the more my anger and rage developed the dreamscape itself started to turn violent. Dark Clouds and the feeling that the dreamscape itself would tear apart if I didn't calm down happen.

Two females appeared one was trying to calm down my anger and another was snickering when she thought I couldn't see her. At this time I told her that would she think 10,000 volts from a lightning hit would be funny? Her look basically changed.

My attention then turned to the male member of their group asking violently where the person was. At the time I knew the persons name and everything. I woke up just a few minutes ago before I was able to find the person. I do not know if this was a nightstalker or dreamwalker deal, but if it was then please do not attack me.

If this attack on me in the dreamland was suppose to be cute it wasn't. I respect that if true and others are able too then ok, but leave me out of it right now. I'm not challenging you like anyone else here is so if you got the wrong person by mistake ok. Then again this just could have been a stupid dream no relationship whatsoever to nightstalkers and dreamwalkers.

Caradon you'll be surprised about what powers the N.S hold over people.
For too long have they been allowed to get away with this and thus I am now a hunter. I never use to be...I was just a normal dreamer, enjoying my dreams.
Then I showed an ounce of talent and then I had N.S and D.W's on my back.
Ask Sanz, both sides have tried to recruit me on numerous occasions. And I have fought both sides.
As for the names I wear proudly as victories...they wouldn't have been there if the damn N.S would stop bugging those I know.
I egg them as much as possible yet they don't attack me, they go for you lot...you know why?
I live up to a name the D.W's gave me, and I do the job really well.
If you wish to know the name ask any Dream Walker or ask Sanz...keep in mind I hate the name and didn't wish for it.

Originally Posted by The Cusp

And speaking of names, I may have read that wrong, but Sanzora mentioned her dream self had a name. You have a different name in your dreams?

Yeah ^_^ Its the same one I use here on the forum... Sanzora. Its one of my biggest Dreamsigns. Only my closest friends call me that and if it happens in my dreams then it forces me to do a reality check because no-one else in reality does that, but as that's my DC name, when other DCs interact with me they use it.

Originally Posted by viking-45

but they cant harm you (just dream pain)
...
so its like a little game, fighting and stuff?
sounds awesome
(anyone can send me a tutorial to dreamwalk?)

They CAN harm you. Don't think that they can't. Dream pain is one thing. But when you are in your mind and someone actually does a psychic attack, that does damage...

Cant help on the tut... Not a practising DW Im afraid

Originally Posted by nzguy

How exactly would a 'Night Stalker' be able to access your dream by using the limited information provided on an internet forum? I mean, seriously, I'm sure they would at least need to know your name.

They have monitoring in place... Don't ask me HOW because I don't know but I have on numerous occasions been told that my dreams are being monitored. Something about a shift in vibration when you begin to control it... Please understand that they do not target individuals, but rather their abilities. So it's not a matter of 'Well let's see... Sanz annoyed me so lets pick on her.' Its more like 'We gave a new dreamer on the rise, they could be a threat... Lets see what we can find out about them.' Once they know your frequency it's a matter of aligning and they have access to any info they want (unless you can shield yourself)

By what means would they 'access your dream'? My understanding of a dream was that it was all made up by your subconscious and therefore was all just in your head.

How does a telepath read one's thoughts? Understand that and Dreamwalking becomes easy enough to understand. That's what they base their methods on I think...

Finally, I have read on this website time and time again that what you expect to happen in a dream is what will happen. If you spend the time before you go to sleep issuing challenges to a 'sleep gang' (whether they exist or otherwise), you genuinely think they will attack you, and you spend the time before closing your eyes 'gearing up for battle,' then chances are you will end up having a dream in which you are struggling with them.

True, but I wasn't expecting to find my first DW, nor was I expecting my run-ins with half a dozen others. Ice ( guy on another forum) didn't go to bed every night expecting to be hunted, yet he met, confronted and fought numerous DWs and NSs before he even knew Lex and I. Niether did Askand, who for years has been persued by a NS and not know who or what they were. AHiddenSaint wasn't expecting someone to enter his dreams a few nights ago either - he was interested but he didn't issue challanges or mention any thought of trying to make contact with one of the groups. He said to us as the readers of the thread 'If anyone wants to try, I'll be asleep at 23:00 gmt'. It wasn't an expectation. Same with at least 2 other people on this very forum who - for whatever reasons - did not post on this thread that they suspected themselves to be NS victoms(since they didn't post I'll assume they wish to remain annonymous so I won't use their names). So yeah, makes one think there might be a *little* more to this than expected...

Originally Posted by salad funk noir

Is it not possible that you have failed to realise that this alternate reality exists solely in your own mind.

Sure it could be. Then some of us must be sharing some form of mass dilusion for us to have the same people ^_^ (Not just between Lex and I)

Originally Posted by AHiddenSaint

If this attack on me in the dreamland was suppose to be cute it wasn't. I respect that if true and others are able too then ok, but leave me out of it right now. I'm not challenging you like anyone else here is so if you got the wrong person by mistake ok. Then again this just could have been a stupid dream no relationship whatsoever to nightstalkers and dreamwalkers.

Sweetheart, I hope they leave you alone... I really do. But you could be right, it might not be them at all, in which case you should be able to focus your thoughts before ed and decide that you won't have anymore trouble I wish you luck in the event of either.

OFF-TOPIC: @Cusp: you've seen The Secret, haven't you?

It still sounds a bit 'Crouching Kitten, Hidden Hippo', but I guess its possible.

I probably just don't want to believe it

Originally Posted by nzguy

It still sounds a bit 'Crouching Kitten, Hidden Hippo', but I guess its possible.

I probably just don't want to believe it

Then dont To each his own.

Originally Posted by Sanzora

Sweetheart, I hope they leave you alone... I really do. But you could be right, it might not be them at all, in which case you should be able to focus your thoughts before ed and decide that you won't have anymore trouble I wish you luck in the event of either.

The thing is I do not know my own ability. If we can really cause harm to people in our dream I do not mean to. I don't think I was upset about the dream as a whole, but the fact that I couldn't control my anger. I will admit I'm more advanced in dreaming and may have found a interesting book related to it.

Picked up The Art of Spiritual Dreaming By Harold Klemp. This was a random pick up but it's interesting so far it's talking about something called Eckankar and spiritual relationship with God. What caught my eye though in the 18 pages I have been reading of this book is they are talking about a Mahanta which almost seems like a dream walker that goes into students of his spiritual path and gives them dream signs or advice to help in their spiritual path.

Again I do not know much about the book I just bought it at half price books when I was looking through their dreaming section on subjects related to lucid dreaming.

Since my post on Dream Combat, I haven't seen the slightest hint of Night Stalkers in my dreams. Oh yeah, I'm that good. And I'm pretty sure they're afraid of me now.

I have, however, been getting phone calls with nobody there that keep messing with my sleep at what seem to be key times. Usually just as I'm falling asleep. Any thoughts on that Sanzora?

But anyways, if anyone really believes they are being tormented by some sort of night stalker, then I would like to offer my help. I don't know exactly how to go about doing that, but that doesn't worry me. If you really need my help, then I will find a way.

Anomanderis, that limping monster in your dream reminded me of one of mine. I spiked my indestructable attacker through the bottom of his foot all the way to his knee. Would be cool if it was the same guy and I actually managed to hurt him.

Originally Posted by The Cusp

Anomanderis, that limping monster in your dream reminded me of one of mine. I spiked my indestructable attacker through the bottom of his foot all the way to his knee. Would be cool if it was the same guy and I actually managed to hurt him.

Am I the only one that has a problem with hurting a person? I know it is a act of defense, but something seems so wrong when the only objective of knowledge is to gain it in order to hurt another person.

Originally Posted by AHiddenSaint

Am I the only one that has a problem with hurting a person? I know it is a act of defense, but something seems so wrong when the only objective of knowledge is to gain it in order to hurt another person.

I'm not sure what the etiquette is around trespassing in someone's dream, but I'd say if they're crazy enough to try to enter someone else's dream to torment them, they deserve all that's coming.

Originally Posted by nzguy

I'm not sure what the etiquette is around trespassing in someone's dream, but I'd say if they're crazy enough to try to enter someone else's dream to torment them, they deserve all that's coming.

No arguement there :p If they look for trouble, I'd say give it to them

Well, the black serpent hasn't come back. I think it is waiting for me to become more lucid and come searching for him. His time will come.

On another note, probably this was just a "normal" dream, but does acquiring one of my personal possessions give them extra power over me like better trackable, or smth? I was in chemistry and the substitute teacher stole my glasses that were exact copies of my real ones.

Originally Posted by Sanzora

No arguement there :p If they look for trouble, I'd say give it to them

I guess I just have a higher moral or ethical about me. I'm the type that if I had the power would try to save the world. I just can't see using something related to it for evil. Maybe I just am to much of a pacifest, but I took a oath when I was young to do no harm. I didn't have to take that oath, but I took it because I rather protect people and save them then anything. Maybe this is my call out there if people are really Nightstalkers why do what you are doing to harm people? Let's find peace and then bring humanity to higher awaken state. We can all work together in order to awaken others why must Nightstalkers and Dreamwalkers fight? Why can't there be peace?

Originally Posted by AHiddenSaint

I guess I just have a higher moral or ethical about me. I'm the type that if I had the power would try to save the world. I just can't see using something related to it for evil. Maybe I just am to much of a pacifest, but I took a oath when I was young to do no harm. I didn't have to take that oath, but I took it because I rather protect people and save them then anything. Maybe this is my call out there if people are really Nightstalkers why do what you are doing to harm people? Let's find peace and then bring humanity to higher awaken state. We can all work together in order to awaken others why must Nightstalkers and Dreamwalkers fight? Why can't there be peace?

If I find that answer, I'll be sure to tell you. As for the higher moral, Sweets, don't take me wrong - I use light to heal and work with angels. I work for Peace in my life and can't stand to hurt another. Lex even says I value life too much! But I'll be damned if someone invades my dreams, tries to hurt or even kill me, and I'm gonna lie down and let 'em saying 'Can't we all just get along?'

the reason why there cant be peace is simply because there has to be an equilibrium in the world ...a balance between good and evil....right and wrong..this keeps the world going...and because on the surface there needs to be an equilibrium then if you look deeper you will realise what goes on to keep that equilibrium sustained...so in other words there needs to be war for there to be peace...

Originally Posted by Sanzora

If I find that answer, I'll be sure to tell you. As for the higher moral, Sweets, don't take me wrong - I use light to heal and work with angels. I work for Peace in my life and can't stand to hurt another. Lex even says I value life too much! But I'll be damned if someone invades my dreams, tries to hurt or even kill me, and I'm gonna lie down and let 'em saying 'Can't we all just get along?'

download about finished then going back to sleep. I think that is what angers me about voilence within my own dreams. I am trying to move past violence within my life as a whole spiritually and on a dream level. It's why I developed a God complex or a Savior complex not for sure which you want to call it. If I had the power to save everyone I would. I've gained a lot of wisdom from my dreams.

I have the ability to be a warrior, but I rather not fight if it is towards Violence. I guess with me if I have been dreamwalking I rather save people no matter what the cost is to myself. I value others before my own life which is a problem within itself that I work out everyday. I do not know why I took such a high moral look at things, but it has developed over my interaction with others through dreams and through reality itself.

Oh don't get me wrong either I won't just let anything bad happen to my friends and comrades. I'll protect them with all I can I just try to figure out other means then just the first answer of brute strength. I rather forgive those as well that do me harm because if I can't forgive those that harm then I create a negative being within my ownself that could grow out of hate.

This is very fascinating very fascinating.......it reminds me of some recent dreams that i have been having...to any dream walkers or NS hunters I am feeling little hungry tonight. Dont let the darkness consume you

Has anybody asked a D.W or N.S why they are fighting each other? I'd be interested to hear the result.