Stalking A Recapitulation...

[Skywalk3r]

I recently decided to try this technique to try and increase my personal power. And with some skepticism I attempted a sexual recap, just to try it out and see if it was all it was hyped up to be. And I have to admit that, it's effective. The art of Stalking never really appealed to me. It always seemed too boring. I started Dreaming first because it had immidiate fun results. But since I started Stalking, I can't stop.. It's a constant matrix of energy to pull from. If you can subdue the Judge and Victim in your head, the possibilities are vast to say the least. There is always a memory to which you are needlessly attatched, that you can release for energy in the present! Such a basic effective technique, that I'm hoping it yields huge results. When I get decent at Stalking, I hope to put my stronger energy to use in the world of dreams, the law of attraction, and within the fabric of percieved reality, with intent of positive thought. The results could be astounding. Who knows, if one could get good enough at Stalking and Dreaming, it may be possible to Stalk your Dreaming processes as well...? That would be sick.. Only problem with that is.. Since I started hardcore Stalking, I haven't had that much control over my Dreaming... Cause and Effect? Too much emphasis on my waking conciousness? Haven't quite figured out how to keep both on the radar at the same time, but I got nothing but time I suppose. Any insights would be appriciated.. Do or Do Not there is no Try...

[The Cusp]

For those not in the know, dreaming is the art of moving your point of awareness and Stalking is the art of holding it in it's new posotion. I could never stick with the recap, like you said, it just seems to dull. As for stalking your dreams, you could try creating a map from your remembered dreams. Or ever remember other dreams when you are thinking about another one? You could explore them like that.

[Jess]

Could you explain it in more detail? It sounds interesting but I do not have a clue what you are talking about.

[Man of Shred]

i get messed up things with recap. I'll do the excercise but the recollection won't come to me months later.

[Skywalk3r]

To Jess: I'm not sure what you wanted the explanation on... But I'll give a brief desc on some of the topics described. Recapitulation: A recapitulation (recap..) is a process of recalling every attatchment that your chi has ever made with the universe, concious or unconcious, with people or just situations and your thoughts about those situations. They can be serious energy leaks that diminish your personal power, or available energy to interact with creation at large. For instance think of the most embarrassing moment in your life.. And re-live it again, only this time without listening your mind telling you how stupid you were, or how it wasn't your fault. Re-Live that memory as a silent observer, watching a movie scene, free of any emotion.........Slowly take a deep breath, inhale positivity, and exhale all the negativity out of the memory. Repeat this process until you can look back at the memory without any judgement, and can view it simply as something that has happened in the past.. When you are finished you may feel light-headed, or a strange feeling come over you, you have gained energy. Art of Stalking: Cusp you were .5 right. In the sense that it requires a great amount of Personal Power to anchor the assemblage point in any one position. So Stalking is necissary before you could try something like that.. Unless your Dreaming skills are off the hook." Stalking, is the Art of finding all unecissary habits and agreements that drain and use your PP needlessly. Freeing that energy up for use by the intent and will. For instance, when you get in the shower, you probably wash your body in the exact same way every single time, dry off the same way, put your underwear on the same leg always first...ect.ect. All the while, your minds judge and victim and or internal dialog is rattling off about something insignificant that has nothing to do what your doing, or anything in the present. Yet it continues, probably trying to evoke an emotion happiness, anxiety, anger, confusion, self-hate. Stalking is sticking your left leg through your undies first, washing your hair before your underarms, brushing your top teeth before the bottoms ect.. Making every moment a concious usage of energy, a choice to make, rather than an unconcious habitual series of actions. The purpose is to make your mind quiet(er) and to bring yourself closer to living completely in the present. And increase your PP. I can explain anything else you would like further info on just let me know.. Hope I answered a few questions for ya..

[The Cusp]

I just didnt want to go into too much detail because someone will inevitably point out that this thread belongs in another topic. Speaking of which, it's high time for a Casteneda thread around here. Where would that go, In the philosophy section I suppose?

[Skywalk3r]

Sorry, didn't know there was a philosophy, forum or I would have posted there.. I looked for the Stalking forum and couldn't find it.....j/k.. I will post in the proper area next time... my bad. A Casteneda or Warrior's path thread could be interesting though.. A place for people to discuss their issues in context to PP or the processes of attaining more.

[PNG_pyro]

There's a beyond dreaming forum, or was, before everything was reordered. This probablly goes there.

[Osimero]

I read my first Carlos Castenada book just a few weeks ago, and even though I am a bit more than dubious about the whole inorganic beings bit, and the alternate universes, it was a good book none-the-less.

[Skywalk3r]

Which book did you start with.... I started out of order... funny thing is I can't remember which one I started with... I just remember going back and wishing I had started at the beginning instead of the middle....It might have been the Eagles Gift... Too many bong loads in college....that memory is haaaaaazy. Everybody gets freaked out about inorganic beings...I didn't take it as too much of a shock.. I just assumed there might be things about the universe I don't know... What I was kind of leary about was when Don Juan starts talking about a nagual who brings back physical items from other dementions through dreaming.. Wait till you meet Don Genaro though, he's awesome. He only shows up from time to time when CC needs a good lesson on intent.

[Osimero]

I agree with you entirely that it's possible that there are other things out there, it's just that I doubt that some guy can find spongy beings that want to suck his energy out, through dreaming. And the book... I think that was The Art of Dreaming.

[Oneiro]

.. it's just that I doubt that some guy can find spongy beings that want to suck his energy out, through dreaming.[/b] When you've got some LD time under your belt, you might revise that opinion.

[Skywalk3r]

I have to say that I've never experienced an inorganic being to the best of my knowledge... Unless they can take the form of anything they want, in which case it may be possible I have been leeched from and didn't know it... How do you protect yourself from them? And how can you distinguish between a DC and an Inorganic Being... I am practicing gathering a lot of PP lately and I don't want to give anything away without getting some energy back..

[Oneiro]

I have to say that I've never experienced an inorganic being to the best of my knowledge... Unless they can take the form of anything they want, in which case it may be possible I have been leeched from and didn't know it... How do you protect yourself from them? And how can you distinguish between a DC and an Inorganic Being... I am practicing gathering a lot of PP lately and I don't want to give anything away without getting some energy back..[/b] They can take various forms, and you can protect yourself from them by making sure you don't touch "anyone" or "anything" in Dreaming. You can distinguish a DC from an IB by either just asking them, or by pointing your little finger at them. An IB will morph into a light being, an ordinary DC will not change.

[Tornado Joe]

Stalking is sticking your left leg through your undies first, washing your hair before your underarms, brushing your top teeth before the bottoms ect.. Making every moment a concious usage of energy, a choice to make, rather than an unconcious habitual series of actions. The purpose is to make your mind quiet(er) and to bring yourself closer to living completely in the present. And increase your PP.[/b] This sounds like is an excellent technique for increasing awareness in general, and this would greatly help in becoming lucid in dreams. It's so easy for people to just go through a day in "auto pilot" - kind of like when you drive to work or someplace you go to often, and find yourself getting there without really remembering much of the trip. Question, though: does this mean that all activities in which you "lose yourself" are negative? As an artist, I've often found myself "zoning out" while working on a drawing or painting. I tend to think of that as a positve experience - affirmation that I'm completely focused on what I'm working on.

[Nathaniel]

that kind of zoning out is likely a good thing. anything artistic is not likely to be one of the routines that one should attempt to do away with... anything creative is goooood

[The Cusp]

I don't think you're losing any awareness with artistic zoning out, but tuning into something else. Artistic creation is deffinately an act of will, and a step in the right direction. For anyone who enjoyed Casteneda's books, you might want to look into Theosophy. It's not a religion, but the comparative study of religion, and like in Casteneda's books, the practice isn't a matter of beleif, but something to be experienced and verified by yourself. Not so much learning, but becoming. And there there are endless sources of reading material available online for free. It's a broad subject, all roads lead to theosophy eventually.

[Skywalk3r]

I consider myself an artist, and while I don't draw or paint anymore, I still can relate to this question on a personal level. "Zoning out", while doing your art is never negative.. As I remember being in Art class and working on pieces, being in the zone is when you do the most (best) work. I would think that if you could apply the technique of "zoning out" during the time away from your artwork you could make your life a masterpiece. I'm a mixed martial artist, and so I paint with pain. When you are fighting and you are "in the zone", it is a complete oneness between mind/body/spirit. Your mind is completely quiet and you are living completely in the moment.. As it applies to your specialty you may be one with artwork when you feel you are "zoning out". And I definately believe this to be a positive state of mind for you. You may find that when you feel this way you are likely to be completely in the present as well.. As for IB's.... Can they use sex as a tool to distract and take from you? I find it very hard to resist sexual temptation within dreaming.. My lucids always seem to turn 1 of 3 ways : Work, Fighting, or Sex. I have been turned on to the idea of controlling the entire landscape of your dreams (since coming to this forum).... And I am working with it.. But I feel that I am a more naturally talented Stalker versus a Dreamer. I can LD, but my control still sucks. I lose control due to worldly impluses and thoughts. I've had a few successful OBE's but I just walked downstairs...lol.. Any insights on accessing more control over myself during LD would be helpful.. P.S. It was only a matter of time before this thread got moved.. haha.. " I must not fear. Fear is the Mind Killer. Fear is the little death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain. " - Paul Atrateis/Muad'Dib (Frank Herbert)

[Oneiro]

1) As for IB&#39;s.... Can they use sex as a tool to distract and take from you? I find it very hard to resist sexual temptation within dreaming.. My lucids always seem to turn 1 of 3 ways : Work, Fighting, or Sex. <SNIP> 2) But I feel that I am a more naturally talented Stalker versus a Dreamer. I can LD, but my control still sucks. I lose control..[/b] 1) The most common way for IBs to distract you and get close to "touching" you is via fighting and/or sex; 2) If your control "sucks", then you are not Stalking very well. Control in LD comes from fixating the AP on a specific position, which is Stalking. If you lack control, your AP moves around and may give rise to pretty chaotic LDs. Dreaming and Stalking go hand-in-hand.. you can&#39;t do one well without the other.

[The Cusp]

Anyone have any practical experience with any of the techniques in those books? Castenada mentions a lot of excercises and tasks, but he's too much of a dumbass to know what they are for. I used to practice a lot of silly stuff from those books and my lucidity at the time was great. Now I'm wonder exactly what it was I was doing that helped. I can barely remember what it was I was doing anyways. I've been trying to work on inner silence again. THat's a tough one. I don't remember to do it ofter enough, but when I do, I'm starting to be able to maintain it. Another thing I remember doing was trying to expand my peripheral senses (while awake) to take in as much of the scene around me as possible, and holding it, not zooming in to focus on any one thing in particular. I think that was supposed to be to help quiet the mind. It seems to me this could have value in dreaming, and could help counteract the lure of excessive detail in dreams. There was some stuff with mirrors I always wanted to try, but never got around to it. Someone has got to have some freaky tales to share. I managed to "see", but only once. But that's a story for another day!

[Oneiro]

You want freaky tales? Hmmm.. Following on from your peripheral vision observation, there's a technique to enhance your LD ability that you can practice while awake: Sit down and relax. Look straight ahead at any object that is directly in front of you, and then WITHOUT moving your eyes from the object in front of you, look at and examine something that is in your left or right peripheral vision. People may say that it's impossible to look at something without directly looking at it with the eyes, but I assure you that it's possible with practice, and the dreaming benefits will come. You can do this technique in LD, and you will avoid getting pulled in to detail, and your dreaming attention (lucidity) will increase. A word on the much-slated Tensegrity: try out some moves while LDing, and you'll get your "freaky tales".

[Oneiro]

..and a word about "seeing-in-Dreaming". I use the "pointing the little finger" technique, and it works a treat for me. However, just as CC wrote, not everything will morph into an "light/energy shape".. some things remain the same, but some DCs will morph. To me, they appear as enlargements of microscopic organisms floating around, constructed of quasi-light. Keep practicing the Inner Silence. You never know.. one day you may experience the Holy Grail of LDing: going straight into dreaming without falling asleep. Inner Silence plus visualisation is the key. All the best.

[Man of Shred]

somewhere in my DJ i found a scout. I can't remember going to its realm. i was stabalising the dream. all the objects were stable. but one kept moving and changing. I ran up to it and grabbed it. It became a blanket and wrapped itself around me. I felt like i was spinning into a vortex and that's all i remember.

[Oneiro]

Whoo boy.. sounds like you found your scout alright. I wonder why you can't remember what happened after the vortex.. hmmm.. My first scout was a multicoloured Fender Strat electric guitar. I grabbed it and went through the vortex, and suddenly found myself in a "cavern". An IB was on my right, beckoning me to go into a smaller cave that led off from the larger cavern. The IB looked like my old maths teacher from school (who I used to fancy like mad) and naked to boot, so I was immediately on guard. You know what they're like regarding sex. There was no way that I was going to go into that cave, so I just sat down on the floor of the cavern. The IB said: "You can go down there.." and then: "What do you wish?" I said I didn't want anything, (DJ would've been proud of me.. heh). and then the scene faded and I woke up.

[Man of Shred]

good to hear I'm not the only sorcerer here! Now if i could only LD again. I'm ona bad dry spell. I wanna go to the IR once more before i move on to the third gate.