Thread: A theory about teleportation and focus.

Originally Posted by kenietz

I mean if we accept the reality as an infinite 3D of more D grid made of life force and our focus as the force which makes the universe the be seen as we see it now

That makes absolutely no sense whatsoever. Reading your other posts I don't think your first language is English, is it?

Anyway if I understand correctly, you're saying if we can meditate enough to disconnect our focus from the "here" and reconnect it in another place, we'll open our eyes to have teleported? Sounds a bit fanciful if you ask me.

If this is what happens in our dreams, i dunno... maybe but I don't think so. I think dreams are really more of a model created by our mind, influenced by whatever other forces you personally choose to believe exist.

The fact of the matter is, there are lots of "realities" around us to which we are not aware, therefore we assume they don't exist. For example, there are sounds which only dogs can hear, yet our ears are not sensitive to those high pitches, so we would assume that particular "reality" does not exist - only those sounds which we hear are real. Also, there are certain light spectrums that our eyes cannot detect (ultraviolet, gamma, etc) - yet those particles of light DO exist.

So, who's to say there is no other space (dimension) surrounding us which we simply cannot detect with our underdeveloped senses?

My point: we don't need to TRAVEL to get to another place - we are likely already there. We just need to be able to see it.

sorry i made some spelling mistakes and some logical ones. it was difficult to catch my thought/idea so sometimes some words got mixed up

But you are right i am from Bulgaria originally.

About the sentence that we dont need to travel.

Once i had a moment when some plants told me this:
"We dont need to travel in order to be"

Once i had a moment when some plants told me this:
"We dont need to travel in order to be"

Was this before or after you smoked the plant?

LOL! :p

Nah, that's pretty interesting actually.

It was some time after smoking the plant and then walking in a botanical garden. So while i was going home from the garden some trees told me that. It was very nice.

Thats one hell of a plant. You should send some to me.

Oh wait a minute, did it look like this guy?

Here's my take on teleportation, based on what I call the Law of Attraction in dreams, which I attempted to explain here http://www.dreamviews.com/community/...ad.php?t=38059

the gist of it is
Wherever you direct your attention will create detail. The more attention you give something, the more complex it will become.

I agree with Kenietz, where you focus your attention is everything.

The method I've come up with implementing this into dream teleportation is as follows:

1. Find a single detail that has something in common with your desired destination.

2. Focus on that detail until it expands it's self.

3. Find another detail that has something in common with your desired destination. Better if this one incorporates the first detail in some manner, but now necessary.

4. Repeat steps 2-3 until you are there.

I haven't had a chance to actually try this in regards to teleportation yet, but I figure the collective details should eventually conjure up you destination.

It's got to be a better technique than spinning. (Which sucks! When will you people learn?)

I think this is a possibility.

I'm not sure about the actual teleportation of the human body but I dont see why its not possible to teleport your thought form (mind) if you focus enough.

There are lots of people who claim to be able to OBE or Remote View, I guess this would be the same sort of thing.

In Clairvoyance and telepathy, alot of emphasis is put on the power of focus and the ability to reach other planes of concsciousness through nothing more than focus of the mind.

To WILD requires a certain amount of focus of the brain, some people probably dismiss WILD as not possible but most of us know it is.

I think the mind is a very powerful tool and all that you need to unlock its potential is the Will, Focus and Motivation to do so.

Yes but i was thinking about actual body teleportation.
If we follow Castaneda's way of thinking the mind is still unknown to us but knowable. So our focus is still focusing on things we can imagine and grasp. But imagine we can actually remove our focus from the point of this reality grid. I mean to see it as it is without our interpretation ruled by our education and experience. Then we should be nowhere. Then the problem is to locate a place in the grid which is still our time and is life supporting. Connect to it and VOILA! We should have been teleported. Of course the problem with removing our focus remain
I mean now with the dreaming techniques some people can move their dream body and somehow their focus moves to different places and times but there is no removing the focus from the grid. I dont know if this is clear enough but is difficult to explain it. Ok may be this approach will be better. If we just make the grid 2D instead of 3 or more D then our moving of dream body could be accepted as sliding onto it. And actual body move i think we can say is something like a jump. Hope i made it clear.

Ah, you lost me again, Ken- but I think what you suggest is something I've heard before in discussions regarding quantum physics and multiple universes, etc.

I think you're suggesting, for instance, this 2D plane being like a piece of paper. One end is one location, the other is another location. To go from a point on one side to the opposite conventionally, you would draw a line connecting the two. This line uses up space on the page. But, by focusing (or moving our dream body) this "line in space" is irrelevant since our dream body is not ruled by the laws of 2D space and time. Much like remote viewing is not limited by space or time. Am I close?

Ok i try again with the paper.
It seems to me that our focus is like a thread which connects us to the paper. So moving our dream body is just sliding on the paper while we are still connected to the paper by our focus. And for moving our actual body may be we should disconnect from the paper and then connect our focus again where we want to.

It seems a bit weird. Or i may be very wrong. But somehow feels right. While we dream we still know we are in our beds. Right? So we are connected to our paper(grid). Or at least partially connected.

Another idea i had about explaining this is the following. If we are represented as lines with unknown length. And this line is twisting(vibrating if you wish). Our "reality" then is just the point we are focused on in one of our two ends of the line-say point "A". Then our dreams can be just seeing the other end-point "B". But while we see the other end we are still aware,focused on our first end(point A). So i think for actual teleporting we have to exchange the situations. We focus on point B and point A becomes our second end.

from what i can asure, i dont believe its possible for the actual body to teleport fully..listen if u use meditation to back this up then im right..look the only way u can actually teleport is if u let ur mind do it for ur body{turn things around} u can only connect ur mind to a place where u have been therefor u can see the place in your mind's eyes with focus..u can either use ur imagination to fill in the blanks just like ur dreams do...here's what im trying to say:for example lets say i went to my friends house today afternoon, i then return to my place with momeries of how my friend's house looks like..basiacally i can try and recall datails of his house by just focusing on remembering.."meaningly i used mental teleportation" see u can only teleport to different places using metal teleportation.. now u get my point

I wouldnt like to say it but i have to. Believing is what matters, right? When you start believing you make all possible. So this is the problem we have. The LD sounds pretty funny for my colleagues and they laugh at me when i speak such stuff because they do not believe. So i say i want to believe it is possible. I have the feeling it is. Only have to make my body believe it
But you are right about the problem of how to connect after the supposed successful disconnection. Because we know how to interpret only the known to us or the similar to the known to us. And yet we are able to interpret. So we have a chance Of course this is only my opinion.
But i think in Castaneda it was mentioned that lots of people got out of our "reality" bodily. And another place where was mentioned teleportation in an interesting way were the books of Orson S. Card.

Originally Posted by kenietz

I wouldnt like to say it but i have to. Believing is what matters, right? When you start believing you make all possible. So this is the problem we have. The LD sounds pretty funny for my colleagues and they laugh at me when i speak such stuff because they do not believe. So i say i want to believe it is possible. I have the feeling it is. Only have to make my body believe it
But you are right about the problem of how to connect after the supposed successful disconnection. Because we know how to interpret only the known to us or the similar to the known to us. And yet we are able to interpret. So we have a chance Of course this is only my opinion.
But i think in Castaneda it was mentioned that lots of people got out of our "reality" bodily. And another place where was mentioned teleportation in an interesting way were the books of Orson S. Card.

You have a interesting point there
It is our mind that filters more than 99% of the reality .
If you become open minded only than you will experience something greater and greater time by time .

Hi guys,
i know thats a very old thread but it still bothers my mind. Further i started rereading Castaneda more specifically "Tales of power" and it shed some light.
There i found some info about teleportation of sort. It is connected to the second body, the dreamer and the dreamed. There Don Juan and Genaro told Carlos that when one dreams his second body one can choose where to wake up. Its connected to my point of view about teleportation and the focus. Here is the part:

"The self dreams the double. Once it has learned to dream the double, the self arrives at this weird crossroad and a moment comes when one realizes that it is the double who dreams the self. Your double is dreaming you. No one knows how it happens. We only know that it does happen. That's the mystery of us as luminous beings. You can awaken in either one."

Something like while dreaming and having the double one has focused on a second place as well and one can actually choose in which focus point to wake up. Choosing to wake up in the dreamed body equals to teleportation because one breaks the connection to the focus where the dreaming started.

It is a bit like we are strings with 2 ends but we dont realize the other end, the double, and we are focused on one end. During dreaming we can move that other end elsewhere but once one is able to realize the existence of the double one can choose on which end of the string to focus, can choose which one to be the dreamer and the dreamed. That is because the dreamer and the dreamed is the same person.

I hope i managed to make myself relatively clear.
What do you think about that? Am i on the right way?

Originally Posted by kenietz

What i have in mind is this. The focus is all that matters.
I mean if we accept the reality as an infinite 3D of more D grid made of life force and our focus as the force which makes the universe to be seen as we see it now. Our focus is week and that is why we see our surroundings but with not enough depth to understand it because it is too much information. As we concentrate our focus we understand better a certain object for example. I think this could be similar to the meditation process. And here comes the teleportation part. So we accept that our focus now is where we are now in this moment. If we can disconnect our focus from this special place of the "Reality grid" then we should be able to choose where to connect. So if we have a perfect memory of another place then we can connect our focus to it we can be there. I think something like this is our dreams. Especially these ones where we visit some special for us places from "real" life.

What do you think about this one folks? Or am i getting to be crazy

Just to note, life isn't 3D at all. It's at least 4D (Space/Time, a crucial one for your idea) but there are proposals that go as high as 11. Space/Time bending would be the only way to truly teleport, and we are not capable of movement like that.

We are if you believe in mind over matter...

At TheKing,
in my last post i didnt mention any dimensions but even in the one you quoted i mentioned 3 or more. But that doesnt really matter cos space and time are words for our convenience. Dreaming doesnt care about dimensions. What matters is our focus, energy(power), intention and will. The grid which i mentioned and was only used to present in simple way my idea about that whole thing. In Castaneda my grid is of no use cos there are the dreamer and the dreamed which should be our two focuses where ever they are. Cos we dont know where is even the 'normal' every day life focus we only think is here but where is here? I mean we have only interpretations of reality nothing more.