hey Creation X, I dont know if you saw it when I posted it last time, but I'd like to know your thoughts on it. |
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Yeah, videotape, before/after pictures. |
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Last edited by Maeni; 10-27-2008 at 08:00 PM.
hey Creation X, I dont know if you saw it when I posted it last time, but I'd like to know your thoughts on it. |
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3-19-08
would you consider it strange if an alien spent several hours prone each night while their soul roamed in another dimension? We are strange creatures..
yea, i'll answer that. |
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Last edited by Creation X; 10-28-2008 at 08:28 PM.
I ♥ DREAMVIEWS. I always have, and I always will. There is nothing else to it.
I would say the best way to get proof is to try it for yourself. You have nothing to lose, and the only other reason you wouldn't do it is because you are just too lazy, and I don't think you want people calling you that. I almost forgot to add that this would be so cool if it would work, and I will try it as soon as I attain lucidity. |
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Last edited by edsq; 10-28-2008 at 08:58 PM. Reason: I forgot to add something.
One more question Creation... |
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3-19-08
would you consider it strange if an alien spent several hours prone each night while their soul roamed in another dimension? We are strange creatures..
well edsq, I guess if they can manage to get it in under a year. my minor telekinises took a half a year to develop(using my dreams as a method.) |
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I ♥ DREAMVIEWS. I always have, and I always will. There is nothing else to it.
Ya, I see how that coulde get in the way, but if it's possible then it opens this up to those unable to LD. Good luck tonight! |
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3-19-08
would you consider it strange if an alien spent several hours prone each night while their soul roamed in another dimension? We are strange creatures..
As far as I am aware, psychic and supernatural powers of this sort stem from belief - you must rid yourself of doubt in order to succeed. This is why most psions who use telekinesis can, at most, roll a pen or perhaps slide a book across a table - even after meditation, the simple fact that their mind has been trained for so long that it is impossible prevents them from becoming extraordinarily proficient. But you've come at it a different way - using a lucid dream to anchor that ultimate BELIEF, then waking yourself up. With this method, you have effectively ELIMINATED ALL DOUBT FROM YOUR MIND! And that is why you have been able to do these things. |
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That wrapped it up incredibly well, Vanota. |
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I ♥ DREAMVIEWS. I always have, and I always will. There is nothing else to it.
You know, there's an easy way to test whether you are in the real world and not a vivid FA. Something tells me I read it in EWOLD but that doesn't deal with OBEs so I don't know. |
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Funny you posted that I did just like you told in my OBEs with tarot cards. But as a result I understand that staying in the real world is impossible unless you are highly exprienced. I saw the card in all of my tryings but the thing I saw was very different. I asked how I stay in the real world to a highly exprienced and known Astral Projector in my country. He said that while having OBE real world-dream world-astral world stand on the same thin line and in order to stay in the real world I should be exprienced enough and work up my energy level. Hope it helps. OBE becomes very easy for me if I catch the vibrations but they didn't lead to real world but the world same in some aspects and dream world. |
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Last edited by roland3tr; 12-08-2008 at 10:08 PM.
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Why is it that you believe these are OBE's if they are not the same as reality when you are looking at the world? I used to have FAs all the time and I used to WILD all the time, of course it has been a while since I've really wanted to do any of that, and a while since I've been catalogging my dreams so I can't remember them past a few days if I don't make note of them. But I don't attribute them to actually leaving my body or as anything more than just a dream. |
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Because most of my WILDs happened in OBE form (my sig) and there are few people who are able to stay in the same reality. OBE doesn't mean that you have to stay in the same reality. Those were not FAs by the way. Like I said it is out of body exprience which you (soul,consciousness,mind, twin body etc. whatever you call it) leave your body consciously and then you do whatever you want. In my case I always start in my room (a few differences) then flew out of window and I haven't seen one person who stays in the same reality while OBEing in DV. They always talk about how similar the reality is but always a difference. |
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APRIL 2012: DEILD:[5] DILD:[29] WILD:[12]
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Every OBE I've ever heard of sounds exactly like a dream or a WILD, falsely attributing the actions of the WILD to a OBE. You are really dreaming, you aren't in another reality and the way I prove this is that you are still in your body because you are able to wake up and hear sounds that transfer into your dreams while you sleep. |
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Last edited by roland3tr; 12-09-2008 at 04:34 PM.
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Ok, so your using OBE in the definition that it feels like you are leaving your body though you are not actually leaving your body? Most people who use the term OBE refer to actually leaving the body, though it can be used to describe the sensation of leaving ones body while not actually doing so. However, based on the fact that you said earlier |
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Last edited by Sandform; 12-09-2008 at 04:48 PM.
Now it has gotten too complicated,I'm confused Lets start from the beginning, I'll try to put it in a simple way. |
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Last edited by roland3tr; 12-09-2008 at 05:04 PM.
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Well the difference between between leaving the body and feeling like you are leaving your body is the same as the difference between the pain a person who has no arm feels in his arm and the pain a person who has an arm feels in his arm. |
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Yes, I exprience them just like you. But if I couldn't name it an OBE, then what is OBE ? WILD is defined as consciouslly entering a dream from an awake state of mind. What I have been doing is defined as WILD as well as an OBE because it fits to the definition and happens just like the same way. Well If you ask me, OBE is just a name to define what you are expriencing, definitely nothing like beyond dreaming. You just do it consciously and fully aware which is nothing we can underestimate as I think there is a huge difference btw a WILD and DILD. But If somebody tells me that s/he is expriencing the real world by of course giving a proof, then I would believe it is beyond dreaming. |
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APRIL 2012: DEILD:[5] DILD:[29] WILD:[12]
MARCH 2012: DEILD:[6] DILD:[27] WILD:[4]
Yeah |
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APRIL 2012: DEILD:[5] DILD:[29] WILD:[12]
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everything you did comes under psi by the way. has noone realised this? you can learn it on psipog.org and other sites aswell. |
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