Thread: Sleep paralysis and Supernatural Assault

Originally Posted by BigFan

I still don't see the difference between those entities or shadow people besides the see and don't see component.

The main difference beside one having a body and the other not, is in how evil they feel. Shadow people emit evil with the intensity ordinary light bulb. And once you get used to them, they become more of a curiosity than something scary. The bodiless things emit evil with the intensity of the sun.

Originally Posted by BigFan

Also, it sounds like to see these shadow people, you gotta have your eyes open when SPing. Doesn't that break SP then?

Ha! You wish it was that easy to break!

Something they mention on that radio show is that praying or invoking the name of Jesus will often break sleep paralysis. I found that interesting, because I've heard the same thing mentioned in alien abduction cases (which some think is just a form of SP anyways). From the various accounts, it seems to work even for people who don't believe in God. Personally, I think that has to do with the power of archetypes, but I've yet had an opportunity to try it.

Originally Posted by BigFan

do they just randomly attack people?

Beats me. Never really been attacked by one. "Old hag" type scenarios are the only attacks I've had. And they weren't necessarily old hags, usually some kind of banshee looking thing, but they never look the same.

Originally Posted by The Cusp

The main difference beside one having a body and the other not, is in how evil they feel. Shadow people emit evil with the intensity ordinary light bulb. And once you get used to them, they become more of a curiosity than something scary. The bodiless things emit evil with the intensity of the sun.

hmm, I see your point, but, I still think shadow people are hypno... images since, you are in SP since when you have your eyelids closed and are in SP, you see images, so, they are getting layed over reality when your eyes are open

Originally Posted by The Cusp

Ha! You wish it was that easy to break!

Really? hmm, guess I wasn't having SP then, lol. I can easily move from whatever I am having, usually I hear beeping in my ears, heaviness, sometimes numbness and in some cases while I know how I am sleeping and could feel the position, I wouldn't anymore. Does that sound like SP?

Originally Posted by The Cusp

Beats me. Never really been attacked by one. "Old hag" type scenarios are the only attacks I've had. And they weren't necessarily old hags, usually some kind of banshee looking thing, but they never look the same.

Old hag? hmm, not fully sure what it looks like Does you see these in SP, because, those could go under my first point in this post

Originally Posted by The Cusp

Ha! You wish it was that easy to break!


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Mine does well I have SP in the morning when it's light out. I guess that's why.

When I have sleep paralysis, it takes a real effort for me just to break out of it, even if it is in the daytime. One time I was on the couch during the day and I slipped into sleep paralysis. I could see my daughter playing in front of me. I was scared that she would get into something and I won’t be able to stop her because I couldn’t move. I struggle just to get out of it, sat up, then laid backed down in a split second I was back in sleep paralysis again. That happens to me a lot,when I don’t even try to get sleep paralysis.

That theory that people made up about sleep paralysis and alien abductions to me is a total BS.
When I was a kid that was my biggest fear being abducted by aliens and I was terrified about it(still am till this day). I had sleep paralysis through out my childhood and not even once have I seen an alien come in my room and take me to their ship. Tell you the truth I have never seen anything or hallucinated while I was in sleep paralysis. You would think if I was so terrified about aliens I would’ve at least seen one in my room while in sleep paralysis but I never did.

My guess is everyone is different or has different types sleep paralysis

Originally Posted by Nightprowler

When I have sleep paralysis, it takes a real effort for me just to break out of it, even if it is in the daytime. One time I was on the couch during the day and I slipped into sleep paralysis. I could see my daughter playing in front of me. I was scared that she would get into something and I won’t be able to stop her because I couldn’t move. I struggle just to get out of it, sat up, then laid backed down in a split second I was back in sleep paralysis again. That happens to me a lot,when I don’t even try to get sleep paralysis.

That theory that people made up about sleep paralysis and alien abductions to me is a total BS.
When I was a kid that was my biggest fear being abducted by aliens and I was terrified about it(still am till this day). I had sleep paralysis through out my childhood and not even once have I seen an alien come in my room and take me to their ship. Tell you the truth I have never seen anything or hallucinated while I was in sleep paralysis. You would think if I was so terrified about aliens I would’ve at least seen one in my room while in sleep paralysis but I never did.

My guess is everyone is different or has different types sleep paralysis

While I agree with the bolded statement, I disagree with your alien abduction thing. The reason is simple. Why is it that aliens assuming that they exist would only visit a couple hundred people if not less? Second, most UFO sights which go hand in hand with aliens have been accounted for one way or another whether its a bird, plane(most of the time) or some other unrelated object. My point is that there is no real evidence to prove the case that aliens visited these people. What I think happened is the following: Some had hallculinations and thought they saw aliens as for the rest, I think it was done by a human organization, since, there are somewhat circular aircrafts and we are a very technological society

Originally Posted by BigFan

While I agree with the bolded statement, I disagree with your alien abduction thing. The reason is simple. Why is it that aliens assuming that they exist would only visit a couple hundred people if not less? Second, most UFO sights which go hand in hand with aliens have been accounted for one way or another whether its a bird, plane(most of the time) or some other unrelated object. My point is that there is no real evidence to prove the case that aliens visited these people. What I think happened is the following: Some had hallculinations and thought they saw aliens as for the rest, I think it was done by a human organization, since, there are somewhat circular aircrafts and we are a very technological society

This is not happening to only 400 people there are over a million abduction cases. I think there is more people out there but didn’t report it or didn’t even know they were abducted. Do I think that all these people were abducted? No, I believe some of them might be just dreams. most of those cases are still unexplained. There are way too many abduction cases to disapprove of what happened to them. Most of them don’t recall what happened to them, they wake up with markings on their skin and hair removed, they don’t remember anything until they go under hypnosis. They even pulled out metallic objects underneath peoples skin. They have this metal tested and they always come up unknown metal. Some of them don’t even happen in the bedroom. There’s cases where people were driving down the road and remembering seeing a light and all of a sudden their going in a different direction to where they were going and two or three hours have passed.

Yes, I believe that most UFO sightings are probably our government. But I don’t think our government is that stupid if they want to keep this craft secret. They wouldn’t fly over highly populated areas across the world. If UFOs are the government, why don’t they tell people that, there are no aliens visiting the earth, the crafts that people are seeing is ours and it is highly classified don’t worry. If it is the government abducting people, that still don’t give them the right to do that to people. Don’t you want to know where your tax money is going?http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QkeOUzKRzLY

Now back on topic. I remember way back in the day when I first experienced sleep paralysis, I did feel like a presence in the room. I’ve never seen anything but felt like someone was there doing this to me, I thought it was a ghost or something. But after I had multiple instances and realize that I never seen anything there, it was just in my head so the fear went away from then on. I have experienced long periods of time in sleep paralysis for like 5 to 10 minutes. I would just lay there and wait for the paralysis to wear off and never seen anything there.

Something they mention on that radio show is that praying or invoking the name of Jesus will often break sleep paralysis.

Before I knew what SP was, if it was scary I would just pray. every time I did that I would start to fade out of it. This was before knew or read anything about sp.

Also I find that because your can move your eyes and breath in SP, if I want to wake myself up I just breath in sharply and it'll jolt me awake, in under a minute. but if I dont move imediately I'll fall back into it. I stopped doing that because I want to start using them to try and have obe's. I wasted so many years of sp being scared of it.

I remember watching something where this guy said something "dragged" him out of his bed and down the hall, he couldn't move or scream. To me that sounds like SP but I think he said he woke up in the family room..

that's weird. A lot of times when I was in sp I would feel like I was dragged out of bed or up the wall, but I wake up in my bed.

Originally Posted by hellohihello

I remember watching something where this guy said something "dragged" him out of his bed and down the hall, he couldn't move or scream. To me that sounds like SP but I think he said he woke up in the family room..
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I was watching tv at about 10:30 and I swear I saw some blue blob say "Pst Steven" and I couldn't move. Not sure if that was from fear though. And in my old room, I used to see shadows move across my doorway. AND! One time, my door was opening and shutting ever so slightly.. I don't remember if I was extremely tired when these happened

You think or you know that he said that? Big difference, because, if you know he did, then I can't explain it other than maybe sleepwalking Maybe you were being haunted by a ghost?

Originally Posted by Nightprowler

This is not happening to only 400 people there are over a million abduction cases. I think there is more people out there but didn’t report it or didn’t even know they were abducted. Do I think that all these people were abducted? No, I believe some of them might be just dreams. most of those cases are still unexplained. There are way too many abduction cases to disapprove of what happened to them. Most of them don’t recall what happened to them, they wake up with markings on their skin and hair removed, they don’t remember anything until they go under hypnosis. They even pulled out metallic objects underneath peoples skin. They have this metal tested and they always come up unknown metal. Some of them don’t even happen in the bedroom. There’s cases where people were driving down the road and remembering seeing a light and all of a sudden their going in a different direction to where they were going and two or three hours have passed.

Yes, I believe that most UFO sightings are probably our government. But I don’t think our government is that stupid if they want to keep this craft secret. They wouldn’t fly over highly populated areas across the world. If UFOs are the government, why don’t they tell people that, there are no aliens visiting the earth, the crafts that people are seeing is ours and it is highly classified don’t worry. If it is the government abducting people, that still don’t give them the right to do that to people. Don’t you want to know where your tax money is going?[URL]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QkeOUzKRzLY

hmm, not sure I agree. I mean I recall remember something or hearing about a couple hundred or a maybe a couple of thousand, but, I don't think its millions. Its possible that some don't report it though. I agree some are dreams, other might be SP related which isn't the same as a dream. Since they can't recall what happened, this makes the possibility of it being a dream much more likely. As for the markings, haven't you ever cut yourself without realizing it? Its possible that they were moving around in bed and cut them For hair removal and metal under their skin, I'm not too sure what to explain there. Here's an interesting tip, if you wash your hair with oil, it'll fall out, so, don't try it but its a possible method if they were taken away by some humans. For the metal, I just can't explain it, but, its still possible that a human has done it. Here's another tip for you about NASA and the reason I know this is because of my sister who has a friend who's father works in NASA. As you know, they have what are called levels and based on what they obtain some space, they put them in order, so, a 4th level would be more dangerous than a 3rd. According to that guy, NASA has discovered an asteroid which had an amino acid on it that is different from the 20 amino acids that our proteins are made of, so, it wouldn't surprise me if they found some other new elements not from Earth which explain the unknown metal composition For memory loss, well, first you'll have to know how many people it happened to and while I can't fully explain it, I won't be surprised if we find out about some new technology that been kept under wraps. That's where your tax money is going.

Everyone makes mistakes, but, that doesn't mean that you don't learn from it For bolded part, have you ever noticed how humans are interested in the paranormal? By flying these aircrafts over these areas, they could be trying to instill fear in people along with speculations that aliens exist regardless if they do or not. Also, do you really think that the government will go to the people and tell them the aircraft they saw is classified? lol, war tactics lesson 1, always know your enemy and make sure that you can keep as much of your secrets underwrap to give you an advantage. Besides, those planes could be prototypes for better models which would be faster and better designed. For underlined part, lol, they have already crossed that line way back when they started torturing prisoners using horrible techniques such as water boarding, etc....

Originally Posted by Nightprowler

Now back on topic. I remember way back in the day when I first experienced sleep paralysis, I did feel like a presence in the room. I’ve never seen anything but felt like someone was there doing this to me, I thought it was a ghost or something. But after I had multiple instances and realize that I never seen anything there, it was just in my head so the fear went away from then on. I have experienced long periods of time in sleep paralysis for like 5 to 10 minutes. I would just lay there and wait for the paralysis to wear off and never seen anything there.

hmm, I still have no clue if I get SP. I mean my last episode of what I think is SP are the heaviness, some numbness, buzzing in my ears(sirens sometimes) and not feeling the position my body is in, kinds like detachment. Wait, I think the only other time I got SP was when I went to bed and in sometime, got images that resembled patterns before I drifted off to sleep I'll try to get into SP today and attempt a LD or maybe an OBE

Originally Posted by Nightprowler

That theory that people made up about sleep paralysis and alien abductions to me is a total BS.

Maybe it's not SP for all of them, but it has to be for some of them.

My very first SP, I thought it was aliens coming to get me. I didn't see anything, but I was panicking because I couldn't move, and couldn't figure out why. The only possible explanation I could come up with was that Aliens were coming to get me. I tried to fight it with everything I had, to no avail.

The funny part is, I had read about SP previously, and only realized what it was after it went away. If it would have lasted a little longer, maybe I would have seen aliens to match me expectations.

Really, it was just a desperate rationalization on my part.

Originally Posted by The Cusp

Maybe it's not SP for all of them, but it has to be for some of them.

My very first SP, I thought it was aliens coming to get me. I didn't see anything, but I was panicking because I couldn't move, and couldn't figure out why. The only possible explanation I could come up with was that Aliens were coming to get me. I tried to fight it with everything I had, to no avail.

The funny part is, I had read about SP previously, and only realized what it was after it went away. If it would have lasted a little longer, maybe I would have seen aliens to match me expectations.

Really, it was just a desperate rationalization on my part.

Exactly Curious, how do you get into SP Cusp?

I remember watching something where this guy said something "dragged" him out of his bed and down the hall, he couldn't move or scream. To me that sounds like SP but I think he said he woke up in the family room..
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I was watching tv at about 10:30 and I swear I saw some blue blob say "Pst Steven" and I couldn't move. Not sure if that was from fear though. And in my old room, I used to see shadows move across my doorway. AND! One time, my door was opening and shutting ever so slightly.. I don't remember if I was extremely tired when these happened