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    Eden

    by , 09-29-2013 at 07:23 PM (906 Views)
    Color legend: Non-dream Dream Lucid

    Lucid #150: Eden

    I'm in a vast, quiet white void. There's a woman here as well, long brown hair, late 20s. She's not a romantic interest but rather a colleague and collaborator on some kind of important project.

    We're looking down from high above at a nearly featureless white room floating in the void. Two DCs are in the room, one male and one female, both of them controlled by us. The male is my avatar and the female is hers. While I'm thinking about this, the notion of dreaming crosses my mind and
    I become lucid.

    She says something like, "This is how we create everything." I know she means that this is how we create a dream world.

    There's a door in each wall of the white room and we each guide our avatars out through separate doors into two different new rooms. A nearly identical scene takes place in each room: each avatar steps into another nearly featureless white room that contains a DC of the opposite gender. In each room the female gently places one arm around the male's shoulders and lays him down on his back. Then, the female straddles the male like something sexy is about to happen, but she only sits like this for the briefest moment (both of them fully clothed.)

    Now the couple stands up, accompanied by a newly created, fully-grown DC! (My avatar produces a "daughter" and my collaborator produces a "son".) Then each of the three DCs exits through different doors into a newly-created room, each of them encountering a DC of the opposite sex. And then the scene repeats again, the woman in each room laying her arm across the man's shoulders, lowering him to the ground, and winding up as a trio.

    Each round of this doesn't take long and in just a few moment what was once a single white room is this sprawling network of hallways and chambers where DCs walk outward like ants. Some of the DCs eventually come to doors that lead them out onto a grassy hillside. As they spread further out, the hillside grows along with them. Soon there's land everywhere with DCs walking all around.

    My view pulls further and further back and I see dirt roads, a stream, a little town. I'm having a hard time keeping up with how quickly all of this is happening. I make some remark about how beautiful this is and I sense something like silent agreement from my collaborator.

    I decide that I want to explore this world more closely and immediately I find myself standing in the middle of one of those white rooms. I walk through a door up ahead of me and emerge into another white room. The idea of trying to complete some tasks finally occurs to me, but
    the dream ends pretty soon after that.

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    1. Highlander's Avatar
      That dream sounds really profound with the DC and opposite gender creations and the moving contolled avatars.
      Have you any thoughts on it?
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    2. NyxCC's Avatar
      Congrats on the ld, CL! Wow, this one was very interesting and profound as Highlander said.

      If there are other dimensions out there, you surely were in one of them. That white void is so intriguing. Was this an early dream or just at the usual times btw?

      And also did you see how exactly the new DC appeared? Very interesting process!
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    3. CanisLucidus's Avatar
      Thanks, you two! Yeah, it felt profound to me as well. That makes me slightly embarrassed to say that I don't completely understand what it meant, heh heh... it seemed to be saying something about the way dream worlds are created and the way that DCs are created, but it was a bit artsier than I'm used to interpreting

      One interesting thought which occurred to me is that as one of the "avatars", you'd have never seen each room or chunk of the hillside being built. It would just sort of be there when you arrived. The view that "the collaborator" and I had seemed more "under the hood", I guess.

      I'm still not sure what the DC creation process might have meant. Maybe that DCs are somehow a combination of different concepts/memories that we have...? Or perhaps this is simply how DCs reproduce. It was riveting to watch it unfold though.

      You know, Nyx, I did not get to see exactly how each new DC appeared. It seemed like there were now three people getting up off of the floor. It was hard to say where the new person had come from!

      Edit: Oh yeah, forgot to mention! Nyx, you are right, this was a relatively early dream. It was after maybe 4 hours of sleep? That may have contributed to the more abstract feel of it and my greater than usual degree of compliance!
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      Updated 09-29-2013 at 10:18 PM by CanisLucidus
    4. TheForgotten 's Avatar
      I notice you're using telepathy for much (if not the entire) duration of the observation.

      One thing I do wonder, what is different from applying this concept in the dreamworld to applying it to the waking world? Sounds like a great dream (for you), unusual too.
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    5. CanisLucidus's Avatar
      You know, you're right... much of it did feel a lot like telepathy. The whole dream was more abstract and surreal than my typical lucids, probably a function of it being early(ish) in my sleep. I think that this might put me in the mood to accept a scenario that's largely a bunch of abstract ideas sliding around.

      Very good point on waking world vs. dream world! The way that reality was built "as needed" while the DCs moved through unconstructed white void seemed so dreamlike to me... but when I think about it more, the waking world perspective makes just as much sense. After all, "reality" as we experience it is something we really do build on the fly from our own experiences. (And each new person builds their own version.)

      And thanks, it was a great dream. Not at all what I was expecting, but a good LD when I needed one. The thought-provoking ones can catch me off guard though.
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    6. bemistaken's Avatar
      This dream is AMAZING! Simply beautiful also!
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    7. NyxCC's Avatar
      Thanks, you two! Yeah, it felt profound to me as well. That makes me slightly embarrassed to say that I don't completely understand what it meant, heh heh... it seemed to be saying something about the way dream worlds are created and the way that DCs are created, but it was a bit artsier than I'm used to interpreting

      I'm still not sure what the DC creation process might have meant. Maybe that DCs are somehow a combination of different concepts/memories that we have...? Or perhaps this is simply how DCs reproduce. It was riveting to watch it unfold though.

      Edit: Oh yeah, forgot to mention! Nyx, you are right, this was a relatively early dream. It was after maybe 4 hours of sleep? That may have contributed to the more abstract feel of it and my greater than usual degree of compliance!
      I have noticed that some of those early lds tend to go in some sort of abstract direction like you put it. And it's not just abstract, it's something that is to an extent different from what are used to knowing about the world and maybe doing things differently, just like this dream for example. Also, we can gain access to a deeper part of our subcon, hence, I find it really hard to interpret these experiences or even sometimes put them into worlds.

      I know most of the time we are very task oriented, but in dreams like these it's very cool to be a lucid observer and see what your subcon presents. And even if we may have little idea what's going in on there, it is still extremely exciting.

      Edit: that telepathy thing was also very interesting. Good point!
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      Updated 09-30-2013 at 09:26 PM by NyxCC
    8. CanisLucidus's Avatar
      @bemistaken - Thanks, I'm glad you liked it!

      @NyxCC - You're right, more abstract and just... reaching deeper down in a way. The mind seems less concerned with relating directly to waking life ideas, creating realistic scenarios, or doing anything but just dealing with ideas in their rawest forms. The subconscious doesn't seem to care whether we'll be able to explain these dreams to our buddies on DreamViews.

      Playing lucid observer really is cool. It's not my usual style at all, and I tend to think that I was at a lower level of lucidity than usual in this dream. I was certainly aware that it was a dream but for example it did not occur to me that I could just change all of this or wipe it away the moment I wished. (Not that I would have, hopefully!)

      I've been hoping to get better at lucid observation. I've got a long way to go but this is an encouraging step along the way at least!
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    9. NyxCC's Avatar
      Playing lucid observer really is cool. It's not my usual style at all, and I tend to think that I was at a lower level of lucidity than usual in this dream. I was certainly aware that it was a dream but for example it did not occur to me that I could just change all of this or wipe it away the moment I wished. (Not that I would have, hopefully!)

      I've been hoping to get better at lucid observation. I've got a long way to go but this is an encouraging step along the way at least!
      It's awesome, isn't it? I keep on being fascinated how many things we can actually do or learn during dreams. There really are infinite possibilities! (oh, give us more dreams so that we can explore!)
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    10. Silverlight's Avatar
      Very Interesting!! I wish the Dcs in my lucids would actually do something !
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    11. CanisLucidus's Avatar
      Thanks, Silverlight! How do the DCs in your lucids tend to behave? Have you ever had the chance to do anything like ask them questions or otherwise interact with them? You may very well be pleasantly surprised with how interesting/interactive they can be if you give them a little nudge!
    12. Silverlight's Avatar
      I think the only time I've interacted with a dc (where I talked and they talked) was in my 3rd lucid dream. I was walking around my house wondering if I was dreaming. I then found my mom sitting on the couch and asked her "Is this a dream?" She then looked at me in a very serious manner ,as if offended, and replied "No of course this is not a dream! I didn't believe her, so I went over to my sister's room and asked her "am I dreaming?" and she just shrugged. I don't remember what happened afterwards, but what I do remember is smacking my self the moment I woke out for completely forgetting about reality checks throughout the dream!
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