• Lucid Dreaming - Dream Views




    Results 1 to 21 of 21
    1. #1
      hm. . marcc's Avatar
      Join Date
      Nov 2008
      Gender
      Location
      Don't even know where I am.
      Posts
      155
      Likes
      1

      Black and white WILDs? Dreams in color?

      ^ Title explains it...
      Mind helping me in guiding my WILDs and visualizations in color? Thanks
      The question is What is the question?
      Thanks, Jeff777, for adopting me.

      [Flavour of Night] 10:06 pm: Banana, DV is not a dating site.

    2. #2
      Ex Tech Admin Achievements:
      Created Dream Journal Tagger First Class Veteran First Class 10000 Hall Points Populated Wall Referrer Gold Made lots of Friends on DV
      slash112's Avatar
      Join Date
      Nov 2008
      Gender
      Location
      Sunny Scotland
      Posts
      5,113
      Likes
      1567
      DJ Entries
      29
      auto suggestion might work, but im not sure about that. also, in your dream, shout aloud "TURN TO COLOUR" or something like that, i think that should work. dreams usually obey commands shouted out.

    3. #3
      I am become fish pear Abra's Avatar
      Join Date
      Mar 2007
      Location
      Doncha Know, Murka
      Posts
      3,816
      Likes
      542
      DJ Entries
      17
      Before the rise of color TV, people would dream in black and white. So why not watch some cartoons? Or focus your visualizations on the rainbow? Imagine each color and one thing that is that color. When you get to purple, start over.
      Abraxas

      Quote Originally Posted by OldSparta
      I murdered someone, there was bloody everywhere. On the walls, on my hands. The air smelled metallic, like iron. My mouth... tasted metallic, like iron. The floor was metallic, probably iron

    4. #4
      Member Specialis Sapientia's Avatar
      Join Date
      Oct 2008
      LD Count
      150
      Gender
      Location
      Copenhagen, Denmark
      Posts
      840
      Likes
      20
      Quote Originally Posted by Abra View Post
      Before the rise of color TV, people would dream in black and white. So why not watch some cartoons? Or focus your visualizations on the rainbow? Imagine each color and one thing that is that color. When you get to purple, start over.
      Are you sure about that ? Why would the TV dominate our visual perception in dreams?

      So before the rise of black and white TV we dreamed as blind ?

    5. #5
      I am become fish pear Abra's Avatar
      Join Date
      Mar 2007
      Location
      Doncha Know, Murka
      Posts
      3,816
      Likes
      542
      DJ Entries
      17
      Quote Originally Posted by Specialis Sapientia View Post
      Are you sure about that ? Why would the TV dominate our visual perception in dreams?

      So before the rise of black and white TV we dreamed as blind ?
      I'm sure. Though apparently, what you watched as a child has more impact.

      No, we dreamed in color before TV. Though I wonder how else our childhood TV watching habits have changed our dreams. I'm sure it's not just visual. Maybe it has distorted/exaggerated the content (as most TV shows do).
      Abraxas

      Quote Originally Posted by OldSparta
      I murdered someone, there was bloody everywhere. On the walls, on my hands. The air smelled metallic, like iron. My mouth... tasted metallic, like iron. The floor was metallic, probably iron

    6. #6
      Ehh..Well..Uhm...HUGS!
      Join Date
      Dec 2008
      Gender
      Location
      Netherlands
      Posts
      842
      Likes
      0
      Train yourself to visualize in colour. that's all I can think of

    7. #7
      Member Specialis Sapientia's Avatar
      Join Date
      Oct 2008
      LD Count
      150
      Gender
      Location
      Copenhagen, Denmark
      Posts
      840
      Likes
      20
      http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sciencean...me-dreams.html
      But now Miss Murzyn believes she has proved the link. She re-looked at the old studies and combined them with a survey of her own of more 60 people, half of which were over 55 and half of which were under 25.

      She asked the volunteers to answer a questionnaire on the colour of their dreams and their childhood exposure to film and TV.

      The subjects then recorded different aspects of their dreams in a diary every morning.

      Miss Murzyn found there was no significant difference between results drawn from the questionnaires and the dream diaries - thus proving that the previous studies were comparable.

      She then analysed her own data to find out whether an early exposure to black-and-white TV could still have a lasting effect on her subjects' dreams, 40 years later.

      Only 4.4 per cent of the under-25s' dreams were black and white. The over-55s who had had access to colour TV and film during their childhood also reported a very low proportion of just 7.3 per cent.

      But the over-55s who had only had access to black-and-white media reported dreaming in black and white roughly a quarter of the time.
      It's a study with only 60 test subject, not that credible.

      And those who only had access to black and white TV dreamt in B/W 25 % of their dreams



      Marcc

      I have an idea for an exercise.

      You choose a coulor, it can be any.

      Now look around and try to see everything with that colour, focus on that colour.

      Suddenly that colours "pops up" around you, because you have become more sensitive to it.

      Try with come other colours. I think this may be a good exercise to do right before going to bed.

    8. #8
      Just the Wind
      Join Date
      May 2008
      LD Count
      40
      Gender
      Posts
      254
      Likes
      2
      Quote Originally Posted by Abra View Post
      Before the rise of color TV, people would dream in black and white.
      I never did. And my father, on the other hand, always dreamed in black and white, and he grew up with no TV.
      I always thought B&W dreaming was weird, considering that's not how we see the world (most of us, anyway).

    9. #9
      Member randomdreamer's Avatar
      Join Date
      Jan 2008
      Posts
      56
      Likes
      0
      welcome to the world of the color impaired my freind...

      remember that its all in your head once your lucid just focus on your surrounding and imagine it fading into color and it should work what ever you make happens happens-there is no spoon
      "You take the blue pill the story ends, you wake up in your bed and believe whatever you want to believe. You take the red pill you stay in wonderland, and I show you how deep the rabbit hole goes." -morpheus

      WILD's: 1/2 DILD's: 0 DEILD's: 1 fake lds: 11 ridiculously short dilds: 9

    10. #10
      Member Achievements:
      Referrer Bronze Created Dream Journal 5000 Hall Points Veteran First Class
      oniman7's Avatar
      Join Date
      Nov 2008
      LD Count
      22
      Gender
      Location
      Saint Augustine, Florida
      Posts
      1,310
      Likes
      37
      DJ Entries
      5
      I had read somewhere before that 12% of all people dream only in Black and White. However, almost any of the "normal" dreaming impairments can be overcome by lucid dreamers. Makes me feel special. I wonder something though.... Does a blind person see in dreams? Can a color blind person create color? Can normal people create colors that the human eye can't see? Can you imagine how incredible that would be?

    11. #11
      Ex Tech Admin Achievements:
      Created Dream Journal Tagger First Class Veteran First Class 10000 Hall Points Populated Wall Referrer Gold Made lots of Friends on DV
      slash112's Avatar
      Join Date
      Nov 2008
      Gender
      Location
      Sunny Scotland
      Posts
      5,113
      Likes
      1567
      DJ Entries
      29
      Quote Originally Posted by oniman7 View Post
      I had read somewhere before that 12% of all people dream only in Black and White. However, almost any of the "normal" dreaming impairments can be overcome by lucid dreamers. Makes me feel special. I wonder something though.... Does a blind person see in dreams? Can a color blind person create color? Can normal people create colors that the human eye can't see? Can you imagine how incredible that would be?
      oh my god i never thought about that before, imagine how happy a blind person would be if they could lucid dream and see. although someone born blind would be making up what stuff looks like.

    12. #12
      Member Achievements:
      Referrer Bronze Created Dream Journal 5000 Hall Points Veteran First Class
      oniman7's Avatar
      Join Date
      Nov 2008
      LD Count
      22
      Gender
      Location
      Saint Augustine, Florida
      Posts
      1,310
      Likes
      37
      DJ Entries
      5
      Does it matter? If a person born color blind saw color, they would be making it up. If a normal person saw colors that never existed, they would be making it up. It still wouldn't take away from the beauty of it all.

    13. #13
      Member Specialis Sapientia's Avatar
      Join Date
      Oct 2008
      LD Count
      150
      Gender
      Location
      Copenhagen, Denmark
      Posts
      840
      Likes
      20
      It's interesting, the whole thing about blind people dreaming.


      Apperenlty blind born people don't have any visuals in dreams, it's more thougts, sound, smell, taste and touch.

      There have been a case where a blind born woman had a NDE (near death experience). She had never expierenced any visuals, even black.

      In the NDE she could see perfectly, and see colours.

    14. #14
      Lighttts
      Join Date
      Jan 2008
      LD Count
      44+
      Gender
      Location
      Oxford
      Posts
      220
      Likes
      13

      AP

      If Astral Projection exists, then those genetically blind should be able to perceive visual stimuli whilst projecting, for the impairment is within the physical instrument - The astral body, supposedly, transcends the physical world.
      "I'd rather have a mind opened by wonder rather than closed by belief." - Gerry Spence, "Postponement fertilizes fear; action cures fear." - Schwartz

      WILD: 29
      Supposed OBE: 6 (29th Jan, 3 on 10th August, 2 on 5th November)
      DILD: innumerous

    15. #15
      hm. . marcc's Avatar
      Join Date
      Nov 2008
      Gender
      Location
      Don't even know where I am.
      Posts
      155
      Likes
      1
      Well, since it's just the visual centers of the brain, it would make sense.

      Everything you see, you may think it's the outside world. It's not. This whole world is in your brain.
      If you could inspire/stimulate the visual cortex, then you would be able to see without your eyes, but it probably wouldn't be what we see with our eyes open. Maybe they'd see colors we can't since we're limited to our human, visible spectrum.

      Wow. Intense ^^
      The question is What is the question?
      Thanks, Jeff777, for adopting me.

      [Flavour of Night] 10:06 pm: Banana, DV is not a dating site.

    16. #16
      Member Achievements:
      Referrer Bronze Created Dream Journal 5000 Hall Points Veteran First Class
      oniman7's Avatar
      Join Date
      Nov 2008
      LD Count
      22
      Gender
      Location
      Saint Augustine, Florida
      Posts
      1,310
      Likes
      37
      DJ Entries
      5
      I believe we could " fool " ourselves into doing it, the same way we can fool ourselves into being blind ( there are cases of this ). Would somebody like to test it? I would love to see the results of this.

    17. #17
      Lighttts
      Join Date
      Jan 2008
      LD Count
      44+
      Gender
      Location
      Oxford
      Posts
      220
      Likes
      13
      Quote Originally Posted by marcc View Post
      Well, since it's just the visual centers of the brain, it would make sense.

      Everything you see, you may think it's the outside world. It's not. This whole world is in your brain.
      If you could inspire/stimulate the visual cortex, then you would be able to see without your eyes, but it probably wouldn't be what we see with our eyes open. Maybe they'd see colors we can't since we're limited to our human, visible spectrum.

      Wow. Intense ^^
      Very interesting.
      "I'd rather have a mind opened by wonder rather than closed by belief." - Gerry Spence, "Postponement fertilizes fear; action cures fear." - Schwartz

      WILD: 29
      Supposed OBE: 6 (29th Jan, 3 on 10th August, 2 on 5th November)
      DILD: innumerous

    18. #18
      Lighttts
      Join Date
      Jan 2008
      LD Count
      44+
      Gender
      Location
      Oxford
      Posts
      220
      Likes
      13

      'tis true

      Quote Originally Posted by marcc View Post
      Well, since it's just the visual centers of the brain, it would make sense.

      Everything you see, you may think it's the outside world. It's not. This whole world is in your brain.
      If you could inspire/stimulate the visual cortex, then you would be able to see without your eyes, but it probably wouldn't be what we see with our eyes open. Maybe they'd see colors we can't since we're limited to our human, visible spectrum.

      Wow. Intense ^^
      Indeed, it appears to be the case. Although the precise stimulation required to elicit specific visual patterns is unknown, it has been shown that '...electrical stimulation of the occipital lobe can elicit subjective visual sensations or phosphenes...whereas stimulation of the temporal lobe can elicit hallucinations of scenes or objects, which have a more dreamlike or recollective quality (Tong, 2003).

      A Phosphene, artistically, is depicted below:

      "I'd rather have a mind opened by wonder rather than closed by belief." - Gerry Spence, "Postponement fertilizes fear; action cures fear." - Schwartz

      WILD: 29
      Supposed OBE: 6 (29th Jan, 3 on 10th August, 2 on 5th November)
      DILD: innumerous

    19. #19
      Lost soul in endless time Lusense's Avatar
      Join Date
      Nov 2008
      LD Count
      100+
      Gender
      Location
      Edmonton, Alberta, Canada
      Posts
      142
      Likes
      0
      I heard people dreamt in black and white and my mom said she did too she was actually skeptical about lucid dreaming and thought it was one of those things with no empirical evidence (like astral projection) rather than an acknowleged occurence. I brought up the topic once and she said she dreamt in black and white too which I found odd. Never understood why some people do.
      This entire reality is SELF REFLECTION. You reflect your essence and project it onto the universe.
      "Most conversations are just monologues with witnesses."
      "Life represents the movement of knowledge across the spectrum of consciousness."

      http://www.4freeimagehost.com/show.php?i=PUSH5975b62cddeb.jpg

    20. #20
      Ιεσουσ Achievements:
      Created Dream Journal Tagger First Class 1000 Hall Points Veteran First Class
      jshumck's Avatar
      Join Date
      Nov 2010
      LD Count
      46
      Gender
      Location
      Seattle, WA
      Posts
      59
      Likes
      21
      DJ Entries
      15
      Hey did you know??? That only 4.4% of those under 25 dream in black and white. Those over 55 reported a very low proportion of just 7.3%.

      Just thought it would be nice to post here.....

    21. #21
      Member
      Join Date
      Aug 2010
      LD Count
      113+
      Gender
      Posts
      84
      Likes
      5
      DJ Entries
      49
      Quote Originally Posted by Specialis Sapientia View Post
      And those who only had access to black and white TV dreamt in B/W 25 % of their dreams
      I remember when our teacher (I don't know exactly how old she is, but over 55 for sure) told us some people, she included dreams in black and white. None of us students did and we hadn't even ever heard about it.

    Bookmarks

    Posting Permissions

    • You may not post new threads
    • You may not post replies
    • You may not post attachments
    • You may not edit your posts
    •