Thread: Barry's DILD course workbook

Had another lucid dream last night, again it was only a few seconds long. I did the nose plug RC and the hand RC, at first it looked normal, but my fingers started merging together and I had 6+ fingers. I even thought that I was a sleep in bed right now. But as soon as I started walking I lost lucidity. Then I 'woke up' in another dream and on some level still knew it was a dream, probably semi-lucid. But again I woke up. In my past LD's I rub my hands together and try and take a moment before I do anything. I'm going to try the 'anchor' method to try and make my LD's longer, do you guys think this works? and is there any other techniques I can use?

I also recorded my longest every dream last night, it was nearly a thousand words long. I'm definitely in a good spell at the moment, just need to improve my dream stability and I will be very happy!

For stability, rubbing hands works well for me, as does simply enjoying exploring the environment, not worrying about waking up, just moving from mini-goal to mini-goal. Following the TOTM (task of the month) tasks are a great way to always have something in mind to do.

^^Agreed Rubbing, touching, or chewing anything around you can work as well. It is also good to say out loud "I'm dreaming" at the start and periodically during your dream and again if you feel the dream fading in case you do end up in a new dream scene or FA which can be confusing if you don't remind yourself at the fade or in the void. I am sure FM or I mentioned this already, but it helps to rehearse this during the day a little.

Keep up the good work!!

Just got back from holiday, I recorded dreams on 2/7 days, one of them was semi-lucid. Hopefully it hasn't effected me too much, my dream recall will probably not be as good. I'm going to take G+C tonight.

How'd the G+Ch go?

Didn't take it in the end, felt too tired. I may take it tonight.

Went to sleep around 12, woke up at 5am and took G+C, fell asleep around 5:30. Woke up at 6:30 and I'd had the best LD for a long time. It lasted around 3-5 minutes. I was in my swimming pool, I was annoyed that I hadn't slept more as I had took G+C. I looked at my hand and counted 6 fingers. I looked again to confirm. I started getting out of the pool, and remembered to rub my hands together and spin around. I tried to spawn women which failed. So I just flew down my street and across the road. A random busy street appeared and I walked around looking around. There was a restaurant called 'Mcdonalds Mail'. A shop was giving out a sample of meat, I tried it but can't really remember what it taste like. Maybe a bit like ribs. The shop owner argued with me and I lost lucidity. I then fell asleep about 7:30, woke up at 8:30 and I'd had a lucid from an FA. I had gone to bed naked so I couldn't understand why I woke up fully dressed, I did a hand reality check and I had 6+ fingers. I got up from bed and thought about what to do then woke up.

So all in all, a great night for me. The G+C combo really is great if taken every now and again. Getting regular natural lucid dreams is still my ultimate goal. Hopefully I'll get my 100th LD soon!

Congratulations Barry! You are getting some good experience with these longer LD's. I will see but I may be trying the G (+ C combo) for the first time in the next month or so.

Originally Posted by fogelbise

Congratulations Barry! You are getting some good experience with these longer LD's. I will see but I may be trying the G (+ C combo) for the first time in the next month or so.

Thanks

I definitely recommend the G+C combo. I only take 4mg G and 250 C, 8mg keeps me up too much.

Took G+C again last night and had two FA's which I was lucid in both. It was a really weird FA too.

It's been 18 days since I've had a natural LD, although I was on holiday for a week where I didn't really try.

Congratulations on catching *two FA's* Barry!! In regards to the number of days since a natural LD, do you feel that you have backed off on your fundamental practices and relied on the supplements? I would definitely recommend avoiding doing that and this is a recommendation that I will need to keep in mind as well.

I tried supplements for the first time last night after about 4 hours and 45 minutes (maybe less depending on how long it took me to get to sleep when I went to bed for the night). I did the 4mg G and 250 C combo and it took me quite a while to get to sleep. I did get a shortish LD after having a memory gap at back to bed but I know the next one in a week or so will be better. I ate way too much processed sugar close to bed time.

Originally Posted by fogelbise

Congratulations on catching *two FA's* Barry!! In regards to the number of days since a natural LD, do you feel that you have backed off on your fundamental practices and relied on the supplements? I would definitely recommend avoiding doing that and this is a recommendation that I will need to keep in mind as well.

I tried supplements for the first time last night after about 4 hours and 45 minutes (maybe less depending on how long it took me to get to sleep when I went to bed for the night). I did the 4mg G and 250 C combo and it took me quite a while to get to sleep. I did get a shortish LD after having a memory gap at back to bed but I know the next one in a week or so will be better. I ate way too much processed sugar close to bed time.

Thanks, I think I was lucky in that both FA's were weird. In the first one I saw a dark figure, although I nearly convinced myself I was in sleep paralysis, and the second one I seemed to have a clone! I'm still keeping up my daytime work, reality checks and dream journaling. I have stopped doing MILD though, which I'm going to do again.

The first time I took G+C I had a short LD, the last two times I took it have been better though. It works best I think if you can get to sleep within an hour of taking it.

I love weird FAs. I sometimes get ejected from the bed by one end suddenly violently lifting up high, pouring me out the lower end. It makes me instantly lucid, and I don't have to worry about getting stuck in the sheets, etc.

Unweird FAs can be *extremely tricky* to detect, even when coming out from a lucid and even when not in a waking location. I had one where I so totally felt in bed, there I was in the dark in between the sheets, I just had a sneaking suspicion something wasn't right, did a nose plug, and got up lucid into a small, dark hotel room. Nose plugged again (because I was up on the 20th floor or so), and then launched myself at the (closed) window, phased through, and flew around an amazing night scene. FAs can be so cool, I wish I got more of them!

Was G+C morning today, took it at 5am. No lucids but I had my best ever recall, 1100+ words! took me a while to get it all down. At one point I was disappointed in my dream that I hadn't had a lucid that morning as I took G+C, the exact same thing happened a week ago, but in that dream I did an RC after. Also featured in another dream I had a month ago 'I wasn't able to fall asleep as I had took lucid dream supplements', Really weird, even if I don't get lucid, the G+C always gets mentioned in my dreams!

I had my 2nd non-supplement induced lucid dream since I started again 2 months ago, lasted about 10 seconds. My eyes felt weird and I kept blinking which made me think I was going to wake up. I looked around for attractive females, but could only see average looking females! Haha. Anyway I touched a female then started loosing lucidity.

Good, keep up the work, that's great progress! Remember, you don't have to "go looking" for your desired encounter: you can either summon (which is good practice, it's worth spending LD time on perfecting your summoning), or perhaps even easier, transform the DCs that you have right around you. I usually just "will" them to change in the way I want, sometimes with a mental or verbal reinforcement ("be beautiful!" etc.)

I have tried saying 'x person will be around the corner' in another LD but it didn't work, I didn't really put much effort in to it though. Transforming DC's sounds easier so I'll try that next time.

Originally Posted by Barry

I have tried saying 'x person will be around the corner' in another LD but it didn't work, I didn't really put much effort in to it though. Transforming DC's sounds easier so I'll try that next time.

I, too, have had no luck with "around the corner/bush/etc" summons. But "around the back" summons work great for me, try it out! Put your hand behind your back, call out to the DC you want to take your hand, like you *know* they're already behind you, and then slowly bring your hand around to in front of you expecting the DC to be there holding your hand.

It has almost never failed for me. The few times the DC wasn't holding my hand, the DC instead entered "from offstage" very soon thereafter.

Remember, and this is key for any dream control, you're not "making a wish," rather, you're just discovering something/someone that was already there: you're just "remembering" it. "Pretend memories" are a great way to drive the narrative of the dream. When the narrative of the dream matches your desires, dream control works practically without effort. It takes time and practice to develop this mental framework. Keep working on it, that's the key to success!

I had a lucid this morning, but it was very low level lucidity. I tried the technique you told me FryingMan, It didn't work but that might have been because the lucid was a poor one. Maybe because it was like 11am, and I'd already had 9+ hours of sleep? I'll try it again next time. Is there any way I can increase my awareness, because only a couple of them have I had decent awareness. In the best lucid I've ever had I was aware of the fact I was asleep in bed, and it lasted what felt like ages, but that was in 2012.

Keep increasing awareness in waking life, and paying close attention to your waking day. Sometimes the timing is just not there for high awareness in dreams. But keeping in mind the "my physical body is asleep in bed and this experience is all a mental fantasy" should result in the highest sort of lucidity (being fully aware of what is going on) and hopefully activate strong access to memory. Great that you got lucid, just keep going and building more and more experience.

This morning was great, I woke up at 5am and was thinking about doing MILD but I was lazy and couldn't be bothered. I woke up at 7:30ish and I'd had a lucid dream. I didn't even need to do a reality check in my dream, I just knew I was dreaming. It was about a minute long. I was to lazy to attempt summoning so I just found an attractive women in the shop I was in. I wrote down my dream when I woke up, I fell back asleep around 8:30ish, and I had another lucid dream. I was sat next to Jennifer Aniston, I had a false awakening shortly after.

I was happy enough with one lucid, but two was even better! I've now had 3 lucid dreams in the last 7 days, all naturally induced. Weirdly the last two times I've took G+C I've not become lucid. Do you count multiple LD's a night on your LD count, or just count it as one?

I think most people (myself included) count each non-lucid -> lucid transition as a lucid dream.

p.s. congrats! Keep doing what you're doing!

Okay and thanks

Originally Posted by Barry

I've now had 3 lucid dreams in the last 7 days, all naturally induced. Weirdly the last two times I've took G+C I've not become lucid. Do you count multiple LD's a night on your LD count, or just count it as one?

This is great Barry! So you know that you can do it reliably naturally. I know this as well and am hoping future g+c doses just add to the experience but have only tried twice so far and it hasn't been a boost yet (4mg + 250mg so far).

I agree with FM, count each lucid. The only time I don't if it is a transition within the same REM period like lucid dream scene to the void to lucid dream scene again would be one for me. In your post with the waking in between, that should definitely count as 2! Good job!