Thread: Creating reality through lucid dreaming

Originally Posted by Sageous

I just remembered a fun anecdote about this stuff.

I spent years riding a commuter train to my job in Manhattan, which usually was little better than a cattle drive to Hell. On one particularly long hot ride replete with breakdowns and delays, I was sitting near a young couple talking very loudly about things like this subject. At one point the woman confidently said, "I am in complete control of my reality." Without missing a beat, the man replied, "Then why are you on this train?"

Reality is a very powerful thing, and it is far bigger than any of us. Just thinking we can affect it -- whether emotionally, with thoughts, through dreams, with magic, with prayer, etc -- is not enough. I'm not saying that we couldn't affect physical reality, but if we can, it'll take quite an effort; perhaps even a superhuman one. And, perhaps, learning to communicate with our unconscious through LD's is a good first step toward learning how to do it....

I like this... what is this I'm recognizing in your last paragraph? Is that ... belief? Heh. I tend to agree with the idea that anything is possible. This isn't what Sageous said exactly but he seems to think it's possible so meh, close enough.

No, I totally don't think if you dream of anything it will be there when you wake up. That's just silly. Dreaming is a thought-based reality and our waking reality is a much more dense and physical place. You can't transfer anything of any sort of mass from one place to the other. Heck, memories are difficult enough to get from a to b.

On the other hand, I don't think it's IMPOSSIBLE. That's such a horribly limiting word. I think there's a way to achieve anything, just some methods are more difficult than others.

There are some things which can be transfered from the dream state to waking and visa versa. You can take skills and personality traits developed in one state to the other. It's not always a clear transfer and pieces may be lacking but it's possible. For example, confidence is an easy one It actually is. Lucidity gives way to finding alternate endings to undesireable circumstances. This in turn gives you more control over your environment and thus, confidence because you're able to create your reality.

The power of thought is a new area of 'science'. From what I've seen in dreaming, thoughts play a big part in our dreaming environment. WakingNomad mentioned once that the dreamstate is similar to turning a canoe in the ocean whereas reality is more like trying to turn a large barge. It happens, but it just takes a lot of energy.

... maybe a super human amount of it.

Oh and lucid dreaming seems to be supportive of telepathy. Really, if you think about it, with the number of mannerisms, context, and facial expressions ... if you pay attention to other people, telepathy doesn't seem that far of a stretch in todays world.

Originally Posted by Kaomea

I like this... what is this I'm recognizing in your last paragraph? Is that ... belief? Heh. I tend to agree with the idea that anything is possible. This isn't what Sageous said exactly but he seems to think it's possible so meh, close enough.

You got me, Kaomea! I admit that under my skepticism and arguments against the more impossible things like this lies a tiny grain of hope that they can happen -- and that is the hope that pushes me forward. Everyone should have it, regardless of their rational confidence in the impossibility of things. So I do hope...but sshhh! don't tell anyone about it! I don't want to ruin my stodgy image!

Oh and lucid dreaming seems to be supportive of telepathy. Really, if you think about it, with the number of mannerisms, context, and facial expressions ... if you pay attention to other people, telepathy doesn't seem that far of a stretch in todays world.

Now back to being contrary: take care not to confuse paying attention while following the laws of physics with communication using an energy source whose existence and control defy the laws of physics completely...as those laws are currently written, of course!

P.S. Very nice post overall, though!