Heavy n' Dense Technique

[DreamRealEyes]

As I've said in my introduction thread (here http://www.dreamviews.com/introducti...w-dreamer.html ) I use to do a lot of lucid dreaming in the 80's-90's. Then a long dry spell with only infrequent LDs, and now I'm trying to get back into it as best I can. In the mean time I want to share this. Make of it what you will and comment if you like. Heavy and Dense Technique (HDT) One night I was in a lucid dream. I was knelling in front of a tree stump. I decided to push my hand into the trunk. At first I couldn't do it. Then I thought to raise my vibrations, I repeated to myself "light and airy", light and airy", while imagining raising my vibrations. I tried again and I was easily able to push into the wood. Then I tried the opposite, I thought "heavy and dense", "heavy and dense", and I found I couldn't push into the wood. I kept saying "heavy and dense" over and over for a bit, and then I felt the dream change. Visually, outwardly the dream didn't change, but the feeling of the dream changed. It can best be described as me and the dream became more solid. I can say it is the same solid feel you have in waking life. You might not notice you don't have it in the dream until you do, and then it is unmistakeable. Suddenly all worry of spontaneously waking up is gone and with it a certain freedom is felt. I don't remember more of what I did in that dream, but I was to use the HDT several more times in LD's. It was great fun, it was like exploring another world with an unlimited pass until I was ready to go home. Each time I would purposely wake myself up when I felt I might be over sleeping in my waking life. There was one drawback though, and for me it was a big one. I almost don't want to mention it because I don't want to unduly influence anyone who might try this. But as it is a big part of my experience and something I want to explore more and hopefully overcome I will share it. I love flying in my dreams and moving through objects, but both of these abilities I lost when I became heavy and dense in the dream. It was still loads of fun, because I knew I was still dreaming and I was completely fearless in my interactions with people and going ons. I might have been able to overcome this but then I had an experience with the HDT that scared me out of ever trying it again. Now I must digress to set the stage for this tale. Two things... One is I grew up on Carlos Castanad's Don Juan's teachings. I was steeped in it. One of the things the sorcerers could do was move their bodies through dreaming. And also fully wake up in other dream worlds. It was possible to get lost there in a sense. Think what you will of these stories, but this stuff was in my psyche. The other thing was in the 80's I spent some time at the Monroe Institute. Perhaps you know about Robert Monroe and the goings ons at the Monroe Institute. Monroe was the inventor of the binaural beats technologies, what he called Hemi-Sync. At the Institute he had an OOBE program where he had trained "lucid dreamers" and using a sensory isolation booth and Hemi-Sync sounds he would guide them into deep delta brainwave and lucid dreaming states. He considered them OOBEs. Next to the isolation booth was a control booth with Monroe, or the controller and also bio-monitoring equipment. As the dreamer would go out of body he could continue to talk to the controller over a mic and describe his experience. Many amazing sessions were recorded. While I as at the Institute for training to give their Hemi-Sync workshops, one evening Monroe and his Son in law told us a story. They said it was never published. One day one of the dreamers had received instructions from a Being in the dream on a technique to move the physical body through dreaming. They thought it might be dangerous but one of the dreamers volunteered to try it. They set him up in the booth, Monroe in the control room and another person at the target location, (a nearby house). He went into the dreaming state and willed himself to the house. He was standing in the house in the dream (or in an OOBE) and told Monroe over the mic that he was going to try the technique. A few seconds later Monroe said all the bio-monitoring equipment went blank, like there was no one hooked up to the machine. (the equipment was similar to a lie detector equipment). A few seconds went by and Monroe got worried and started out the door to check on the dreamer, just then the equipment came back on and the man in the booth said he was back. They said they didn't know if it was successful or not. The dreamers saw himself in the room, did the technique and then shortly popped back into his body in the booth. The man at the house saw nothing. But the equipment seemed to indicate that no body was present for 10 seconds or so. The whole thing sort of frightened them and they were't sure if they would try it again. So think what you will, but again, that story was in my psyche when in 1992 I had the following experience. I've probably built this up to much now, but I wanted you to have the back story. I became lucid as I was flying high over a city (superman style, not in a plane). It was a bright sunny day as so many of my LDs are. Down below me I saw a large dome stadium with a large mostly empty parking lot. I saw a couple of people standing in the parking lot and I flew down and landed in front of them. Once on the ground I notice a strong wind blowing me back and pushing me away from the people. Sliding backward on my feet. I started doing my heavy and dense technique, repeating it over and over. It made me solid and the wind was no longer a problem. I kept repeating the phrase and then the strangest thing happened. I suddenly found myself aware of being in two places at once. One was the world of the dream standing in front of the people and the other simultaneous experience of being in my bed looking out over the covers and seeing my room. Now they say you can not have two thoughts at the same time, and if I try it I find it's not possible. But here I was having two absolutely simultaneous experiences of being in two different places. I felt fully in each place. At that moment I knew that I could choose to wake up in either place. What that meant to me was that choosing to wake up in the dream would mean loosing the other world (my waking life) like one loses a dream upon awakening. I knew I could WAKE UP IN EITHER PLACE! Well the moment I became aware of that it freaked me out so much I thought hard of my waking life and willed to wake up in that vision. As I shifted my full attention over to that vision I simply became all there. I won't say I woke up. There was no sensation of waking up. My view never changed, my eyes were already open, I simply became all there and was lying there already awake. Well there you go. That is what scared me. It didn't stop me from lucid dreaming, but I never tried the HDT again. Ok, the above was written some time ago. Now I'm not trying to tell you that I could have woken up in either place, but that was my conviction at the time of the experience. Since then I did have one LD in which I tried the HDT again. It didn't seem to work to "solidify my attention" in the dream, but it was a short dream and I'm not giving up on the technique. If I can get my LD frequency up again I will be experimenting with it more.

[Sivason]

It sounds like a good technique. The lingo we use around here for this genre of techniques is "stabilizing." Thank you for sharing this and all the other very interesting things. Many around here will be interested to find out you have met Wagner. The experience of feeling both bodies at the same time can happen often enough. It is nothing to worry about. It can even be an exciting event on it own. Truely, a bizarre thing, but harmless.

[DreamRealEyes]

It sounds like a good technique. The lingo we use around here for this genre of techniques is "stabilizing." Thank you for sharing this and all the other very interesting things. Many around here will be interested to find out you have met Wagner. The experience of feeling both bodies at the same time can happen often enough. It is nothing to worry about. It can even be an exciting event on it own. Truely, a bizarre thing, but harmless. It's good to hear it's not uncommon to experience being in a dream and out of it at the same time. For the reasons I shared it scared me alot. I do look forward to trying the HDT again in a future LD. It really locked my lucidity into the dream in ways no other technique has worked for me. Many around here will be interested to find out you have met Wagner. Who is Wagner? Is that Robert Monroe's son in law? I didn't remember his name, and I have no idea what he may be doing since those days. One thing I do remember though is he talked about going on board a nuclear submarine to perform remote viewing experiments. So he was certainly connected. I believe Robert died a few years after I was there.

[Sivason]

It's good to hear it's not uncommon to experience being in a dream and out of it at the same time. For the reasons I shared it scared me alot. I do look forward to trying the HDT again in a future LD. It really locked my lucidity into the dream in ways no other technique has worked for me. Who is Wagner? Is that Robert Monroe's son in law? I didn't remember his name, and I have no idea what he may be doing since those days. One thing I do remember though is he talked about going on board a nuclear submarine to perform remote viewing experiments. So he was certainly connected. I believe Robert died a few years after I was there. No. My bad. I meant Robert Monroe. I am on a portable and not very familiar with his works. I had a brain glitch and did not realize I put the wrong name until you mentioned it. So, anyways, I meant that you met the author. I have not read anything of his but many around here have.