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      hhhhhhhmmmmm

      I disagree with you.

      A dream is your thoughts, your actions, your emotions, your memories and beliefs. Your dreams fall apart becuase you BELIEVE them to be nothing, meaningless, empty, an illusion. You believe they aren't real, so your subconscious believes the same. And your subcon. is the one that created the dream, not you.

      You questioned reality and came up with the answer that it isn't real. That doesn't mean the dream is fake. That doesn't mean the dream isn't real. Thats just what YOU believe. And the dream is whats in YOUR head.

      Dreams are real. Otherwise none of us would dream. Just becuase its not logical or its not the reality of the waking world doesn't mean it isnt a reality. Its the reality of your mind, your thoughts, your beliefs, yourself. A reality can be a state of being, a state of existing.

      I was once in a lucid dream, and in the dream my family was around. I was looking at my dream mom, looking at all the detials. I was amazed at how life like she was. A monster came, monsters are fun, I think dreams are boring without them! And I started to fly away, leaving my dream mom prey for the monster. To my SURPRISE, she started screaming at ME. I turned around mid-air to look at my dream mom. Before I can even say "Youre not real. Stop screaming!" My dream mom screamed "The choices you make in a dream are real."

      This caught me off guard. The monster, right behind my mom was frozen in time. I looked at my dream mom and said "What the hell did you just say??? You're not real! .... Why am I even talking to you..."

      And my dream mom went on to say "You are real. Your actions are real. Your feelings are real. Your thoughts are real. Your choices are real. Therefore what you do to me MATTERS."

      The conversation was utterly freaky. <- see here? that was my face!

      I echoed what my dream mom said. Becuase as you have said, the dream is you. Her words became my words. "What you do in a dream matters, becuase your choices and actions are real". I took this as a grain of truth, and still do today.

      So I grabbed my dream mom by the arm, the monster was no longer frozen in time. But before it could claw my dream mom to death, I carried her away to safety. I woke up that morning feeling good . I wonder how GUILTY I would have felt just flying for fun, listening to my dream mom scream in horror as she was ripped apart and eaten alive. Thoughts, emotions..they are real.

      My dream mom is not my real mom, and she isnt even a real person, except perhaps me. But what was real was what I DID in the dream. And what was real was how it made me FEEL.

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      Some religions believe on the other side thoughts can manifest into illusions. So they teach be careful of your thoughts. They also teach..thoughts become actions. And actions are real, so once again..becareful of your thoughts. But whether the thoughts become illusions or actions of reality - thoughts are real.

      This is the irony of the dream! Thoughts are REAL. Dreams MANIFEST your thoughts, it becomes a REALITY. Illusions? Maybe yes, but still a reality of your thoughts.

      You THINK the dream isn't real - the dream reflects this-thus the dream falls apart. But are you so sure the dream falling apart is REAL? Or just another illusion created by the dream of the dream falling apart?

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      Quote Originally Posted by juroara View Post
      I was once in a lucid dream, and in the dream my family was around. I was looking at my dream mom, looking at all the detials. I was amazed at how life like she was. A monster came, monsters are fun, I think dreams are boring without them&#33; And I started to fly away, leaving my dream mom prey for the monster. To my SURPRISE, she started screaming at ME. I turned around mid-air to look at my dream mom. Before I can even say "Youre not real. Stop screaming&#33;" My dream mom screamed "The choices you make in a dream are real."
      This caught me off guard. The monster, right behind my mom was frozen in time. I looked at my dream mom and said "What the hell did you just say??? You&#39;re not real&#33; .... Why am I even talking to you..."
      And my dream mom went on to say "You are real. Your actions are real. Your feelings are real. Your thoughts are real. Your choices are real. Therefore what you do to me MATTERS."
      The conversation was utterly freaky. <- see here? that was my face&#33;
      I echoed what my dream mom said. Becuase as you have said, the dream is you. Her words became my words. "What you do in a dream matters, becuase your choices and actions are real". I took this as a grain of truth, and still do today.
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      Holy flipping crap. Just reading that took me off guard.

      Hey, is it okay if I quote the bolded sentence and put it in my signature? I&#39;ll credit you and stuff.

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      Aside from the debate on whos right about what dreams are... i&#39;d like to add that in my opinion a person&#39;s mindset will help/hinder their ability to lucid dream, and that a working personal technique/believe is all that matters when striving for lucidity.

      I&#39;m inclined to think thal you can just let lucid dreams come to you, and if they don&#39;t then its just not supposed to happen yet.

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