Thread: Finding Your Dreamguide (3 In 1 )

Hello all, new to this whole scene, and have yet to induce a lucid dream, got close to inducing a WILD, but failed because along with the flood of colors i saw, my eyes twiched like crazy and i got a little scared and stopped it, was that the rapid eye movement in REM sleep? anyway...

I know much less about dream guides than i should (haven't met mine), but there are some parts where i think i have it clear, one of which being this, your dreamguide, spiritguide, guardian angel, protective ancestors, runner spirits, higher self or whatever else you may call this, is ALL your subconcious...i know other have brought this up, but not tried to explain it to well, at least in my opinion, the stucture of the universe is like this, as well as the structure of yourself

God (or whatever name you find suitable, but this is the unified field of super conciousness, it is omniscient and omnipotent)
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Subconcious Mind (the hidden mind if you will, and also self, without selfishness)
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concious mind (five sensory mind, and Ego)

this means, that your subconcious mind is closer to God and without Ego, Ego from my understanding is the idea that all things are seperate and not interconnected or more precisely, the idea of duality, and selfishness, (i know that not everyone holds this view, i do)

your subconcious mind is without the idea of "i can't" so it can access the incomprehensibly vast storehouse of God's mind, which is the mind of everything that is and isn't, and thus it knows the truth of things and doesn't lie. Because it is your higher self or your more enlightened self so it knows who you "really" are, even if your ego denies it, this explains why your dream guide can "know you better than you know yourself".
The feeling of love that people experience i believe can be explained by that fact that that is the feeling of unconditional love that you feel for youself and for simply existing, and i assume it would feel great.

Once I get this lucid dream thing down...this is gonna be on the top of my list I soooo have to try this!!!

Originally Posted by JFK

amazing i loved it

dude you should wright a book on this or somthing[/b]

talking about my dream? I haven't had an as exciting one since. I've been askling myself as i fall asleep. "I'm ready, i won't be afraid" strangely enough my dreams are getting more strange.

An intersting point about DGs that I've heard about is that they know more about you than you do. Perhaps they are based off of your subconcious which can extend even beyond your personal memory.

Someone try asking your DG about something you've forgotten, or some other simliar test.

Ask them what 2+4 is XD JK, but really try asking them something you've forgotten or something you want to forget and see if they can do something about it...

Nice tutorial.

Ill try this when i have my first LD... ='(

EDIT:

Sorry for the

My progress is going slow, I never remember to ask or say certain things. I'm not a gung-ho lucid dreamer, I can't get into it all. I tried directly controlling things before, but it always backfires or wakes me up. I like the idea of this dreamguide however, because perhaps I can ask them to protect me and help me get better or something. I haven't been able to get many lessons yet. The only one I got (if it was one) was that being in darkness does not necessarily always wake me up. Before I had that dream, I thought if I was in total darkness or closed my eyes that I would wake up, because it had happened before, I thought.

Anyway, I have found out her name is Nancy. She has been consistently appearing as female (minus that first time when for some reason it was a man that wasn't at all helpful and scared me rather than comforted me, but still claimed he was indeed my guide), but I have yet to pin down what her exact look is. Though this time I'm remembering her as blonde, and younger than the last time. Possibly my own age. This is possibly due to the fact that I didn't care for her appearance as an overweight woman that reminded me of one of my elementary school teachers.

I did ask her if there was a way I could more easily remember everything that happened to me when I woke up. Since I'm not into writing everything down in a journal or that mess, since I have to get up and GO when I get up. She gave me two things that I was supposed to take like medicine. I put them in my mouth, and she was like "Make sure such-and-such one goes first.", and I switched them but then I started to wake.

I did remember most of that dream though. Including a bit where people explained that all colors in the dream world are different somehow. Also how I told her I wanted to have an "action movie" dream with car chases and shootouts and big fight scenes and explosions and scantily clad women that I must save from peril. She laughed, and that made me sad, because I wanna do that, darn it.

One more thing to add to an earlier post. I asked Nancy where she was from, and she said only, "the future". This kinda weirded me out, because things have been told to me in past dreams about things that would happen in the future. I'm wondering if they're going to come true. For example, I was walking with a girl whose company I was enjoying and I said will we ever meet and she told me the date (this next Monday, actually), and that we would eventually get married. Plus I can also remember a time when I was younger and I was talking to some other girl (I like girls... buzz off), and told her my Mom was having money problems and that I wanted some... kid something, probably a videogame, but I couldn't get it. She said 5 numbers to me, I said what do they mean, she said "Just remember.", and I woke up but could only remember 3. Told my Mom about it, she said maybe they were for the lottery with a smile on her face and we tried the 3 I could remember and then 2 other random ones. The 3 I remembered were right, and we won like a hundred bucks and I got my game.

So, perhaps this is true. If I meet a girl next Monday that I really hit it off with, I'm gonna flip out. I wonder what would happen if I stayed inside, and didn't go out at all. Would this still come true, would I have changed it, or was that what I was supposed to do and it still happens? Am I going to meet this girl no matter what? Will I? I can't think about it or my head might explode.

I'm going to try to keep asking her to help me control my own dreams, but can't ever seem to remember it. I do always remember to ask her if she IS my dreamguide before I proceed though. There's too many questions I wanna ask, darn it all!

seems to me that a dreamguide is a manifestation of your subconcious. damn useful, but not really a seperate entity. really just a guess tho, ive never found mine

Im definatly going to try to find my dream guide. Although, I believe its just your subconsiouce mind, not a spirit that has been actully guiding you through life. This could teach me a lot more about my self.

I have one Question. Is your DG almost ALWAYS the opposite sex? Because if mine is a dude, that is just awkward, and scary. It would be like:
Me: *closes eyes* "When i turn around, my dreamguide will be there!"
Me:*turns around to see a dude standing there* "A-HERM, are you my dream guide?"
Dude: "Yes"
Me: *pulls derringer out of his pocket and blows his brains out to wake up*

Originally Posted by Seismosaur

I have one Question. Is your DG almost ALWAYS the opposite sex? Because if mine is a dude, that is just awkward, and scary. It would be like:
Me: *closes eyes* "When i turn around, my dreamguide will be there!"
Me:*turns around to see a dude standing there* "A-HERM, are you my dream guide?"
Dude: "Yes"
Me: *pulls derringer out of his pocket and blows his brains out to wake up*

Unless your dream guide is really gay I don't see the problem.

I already know deep inside me that I love her to death, she honestly is nothing like any girl i have met on earth...We havent done much, and I was even asked the question, would i ever have sex with my DG? The answer is simply no i would not.. I have too much respect for my DreamGuide to use her in such a way.. We already established the fact that we do love eachother, but its a love soo deep, that its better then sex...I know weird right..

I think you need a girlfriend...

I think I've met her before. It wasn't in an LD (I've only had one), but I'm pretty sure it was her. She was hispanic with medium length black hair... about my age. There was just something about her that seemed to separate her from the rest of the DC's.

Originally Posted by sk8bordgeek

I think you need a girlfriend...

ROTFLMAO!

Great post! It sounds so awesome! Do you think a DG is actually your subconscious mind, or maybe a guardian angel?

Ok, I usually don't like to post, but it is so ridiculous that I had to point it out. Also, I really despise how the author is arrogant and thinks of himself as a guru. I think that this horrible guide should be moved to the Beyong Dreaming forum, where it belongs.

Originally Posted by spiritofthewolf

i can see where you think that ^^^^^^but the true fact is..that our Dream Guides are nothing more then our Spiritual Guides..our Spiritual Guides are with us everyday in waking life

If I understand the whole thread correctly, spiritwolf has met his spirit guide three times, they basically did nothing but kiss. All we know of his dream guide is that she said "Come back tonight, bring your jacket..." Yet it's a supernatural entity that comes from his other lives, characterised by its extreme wisdom. Spirit guide also known as guardian angel.

Originally Posted by spiritofthewolf

You wanna talk about Telekinesis, again, do your research... You sit and you bicker about stuff you know nothing about.. Yes I had experimented with TK for a few months and had some interesting results..

And this quote should be enough to discredit him.

Bye.

Ok,what I heard was that your DG is the manifestation of your subconsious mind in the form of a DC. When you become lucid, your consious mind can manifest itself within a dream in whatever way you want to. This becomes your dream form. With your consious mind now unattached and aware of the dream your subconsious mind creates, it can interact with your subconsious as an entirely different entity. This is why your DG knows so much about you. It is your subconsious. It knows everything about you, and excepts all of it, while our consious mind doesn't want to or refuses to fully except certain things about yourself you know to be true. And as our subconsious this makes them essentially the source of our dreams, which is why many people find dream control easier if they interact and learn from their DG.

Originally Posted by DreamNinja

Ok,what I heard was that your DG is the manifestation of your subconsious mind in the form of a DC. When you become lucid, your consious mind can manifest itself within a dream in whatever way you want to. This becomes your dream form. With your consious mind now unattached and aware of the dream your subconsious mind creates, it can interact with your subconsious as an entirely different entity. This is why your DG knows so much about you. It is your subconsious. It knows everything about you, and excepts all of it, while our consious mind doesn't want to or refuses to fully except certain things about yourself you know to be true. And as our subconsious this makes them essentially the source of our dreams, which is why many people find dream control easier if they interact and learn from their DG.

I completely agree with this post. I doubt it is actually some spirit like spiritofthewolf thinks

Yes, that is what i was thining, but Spiritofthewolf is probably leaning towards spiritual entity 'cause he makes-out with his DG, lol. Kinda creepy if you thought of it as yourself, XD.

Man... I read this yesterday, and I was planning on going lucid tonight (which I did, if only for 5 or so minutes) so I can look for my DG (whether it is a proper spiritual entity or merely a manifestation of my SC... I think its the latter option though... since the whole spiritual/guardian angel thing just seems somewhat... unbelievable). So when I did go lucid, I remembered my intentions and everything... but something came up which I just couldn't just pass by... since my late grandmother had appeared in my dream (she passed away 11 years ago, a couple of months after I moved to UK) and I just could resist talking to her... we had an interesting talk, so I kinda got distracted with my quest... its all in my DJ (link is in the sig).

Anyways, I have a feeling I know who my DG is... since she appeared in quite a few non-LDs, the first one being with me and this female DC walking and we encounter this little girl all alone and crying, and we then take care of her. The next dream was in a really vivid dream which I had in a WBTB, where it was just me and her in this landscape, and we went around the place exploring (or with me protecting her from other DCs). She even got me to fly in the dream (she wanted to me to chase after a bird, so she hopped onto my back and told me to fly after it... which I did). Other dreams involve me either protecting her from DCs (Agents... from the bloody Matrix... I need to stop watching the Animatrix...) or just feeling her presence in my dreams. Now... I must get into the swing of inducing more LDs and not getting side-tracked! I have so many questions to ask >.<

wow that's really interesting! I think I know who mine is, but I haven't met him in a lucid dream yet, so I'll be sure to try and find him now! thanks for the tutorial!

Gosh i just can't LD! Last night i did a good WILD, i woke up immediatley after my first dream, BUT FORGOT TO LOOK FOR DREAMSIGNS! Which turned out to be my computer, in the second dream it went from tv to comp., But im getting closer i can't wait to meet my DG!

Ok,what I heard was that your DG is the manifestation of your subconsious mind in the form of a DC. When you become lucid, your consious mind can manifest itself within a dream in whatever way you want to. This becomes your dream form. With your consious mind now unattached and aware of the dream your subconsious mind creates, it can interact with your subconsious as an entirely different entity. This is why your DG knows so much about you. It is your subconsious. It knows everything about you, and excepts all of it, while our consious mind doesn't want to or refuses to fully except certain things about yourself you know to be true. And as our subconsious this makes them essentially the source of our dreams, which is why many people find dream control easier if they interact and learn from their DG.

Yes, that is what i was thining, but Spiritofthewolf is probably leaning towards spiritual entity 'cause he makes-out with his DG, lol. Kinda creepy if you thought of it as yourself, XD.

Ok for those 2 above and for those who believe that Im some kind of weird-o- For believeing that our DG's are if you will an "Entity" of some sort other then our Sub C...Please.. I challenge you to find proof that states that our DG's are just a figment of our imagination.... Because I've posted links throughout these many replies to my TUTORIAL of websites that describe and lean toward what DG's are and where they come from...

See what a DG actually is..Is your everyday life Spiritual Guide...and the way they come in contact with us alot of the times is in our Dreams...hence is why they get called our DreamGuides..

Now it sounds crazy yes, but please, before you make assumptions please do your research.. Also...Let me ask you this? Do you believe in ghost? You may say no but there has has been fact'd proof evidence that they do exsist... Now the thing is, is psychics say that we have spirits around us 24/7..They say our dead family members or friends come visit us without us even knowing it....

You guys can believe/think what you want..But saying something like "Oh your DG is just apart of your SUB C" without having any facts or proof to back it up, just doesnt build your case.. And saying rude comments about me making out with my DG to try to make a point is only gonna make your point/case weaker.. So if you wanna actually try and make a point and proof something to someone, please...do some research...so us what you found...and let the people build their conclusion from there..

In closing, If you go back and look at my replies throughout this tutorial posts you will see i left links for people to look at about SG/DG's so they can get a better understanding of what they are.. So please, read them or go search on your own, you will be suprised at what you find.. Then i'll give you the benefit of the doubt when you post an intelligent comment, instead of just writing jibberish that just has no point...


thanks for your time and thanks for those who stand by me

Spiritofthewolf

Does anyone know if this would work? I was thinking if I did find my dream guide, could I ask him/her to come and tell me whenever I'm dreaming so I can become lucid more? I'm wondering if dream guides would actually do that, or if they dont talk to us very often.