Death or dying in dreams.

**Fattoxthegreat** · 09-21-2009 11:18 AM

In my dream journal, dying or death seems to be a reoccurring theme, and since I haven't achieved an LD either out of chance or practice, I was wondering about those of you who can. When I die in dreams (usually via a gunshot), the result can range from just fading into wakefulness to crazy feelings and visuals like becoming extremely heavy and having all vision turn to static.

So my question is to those of you lucky (skillful/diligent) enough to have regular LD's: Do you ever have yourself purposefully pass away just to experience what it's like, and if you do, what kind of results do you get?

Thanks in advance for your response(s) and I apologize if this thread is redundant (as I more than likely expect).

**Naiya** · 09-21-2009 11:13 PM

When I had some of my first LDs, I would get lucid after dying in a dream, because I would die and then go to heaven. It wasn't really that impressive, but I only saw one room. Another time I was greeted by relatives that don't actually exist who had apparently already died.

Sometimes, I'd go to hell, though. LOL. It was quite fun fighting zombies in hell. Don't ask me why there were zombies in hell. I met the devil and he sexually harassed me. I never did meet God, though.

In those cases there was no blacking out or break in consciousness, just a scene change. But in recent years when I have death-like experiences in lucids, I do actually black out, then have a false awakening, usually just in the same place I was. Kinda like having an extra life in a video game. Pretty cool, eh?

**Baron Samedi** · 09-22-2009 12:15 AM

I have done things in dreams such as fall off a skyscraper, and hit the ground, but then I just stand up and walk away.

Pretty macabre, but now I am curious to see what would happen if I killed myself in a dream.

From past experience, probably nothing would happen, like if I shot myself in the head, the bullet would go through, and that's it.

**Hidden** · 09-22-2009 04:25 AM

I've never died in a lucid dream, but I've died a couple of times in non-lucids. Usually the scene changes once I realize I'm about to die and I watch what happens afterward. Eventually I plan on dying on purpose while lucid, just to see what happens.

**Kordan** · 09-22-2009 03:27 PM

Well Hidden, if you suddenly drop off of the forums one day, we'll know what happened

And to Fattoxthegreat; I've been killed before in a lucid (being hacked to pieces by my grandfather's neighbors

) and it was kind of gruesome...to watch. I didn't feel anything, that I can remember. I think that I just woke up after that though.

**Hidden** · 09-22-2009 10:38 PM

Haha. =P

It's so funny when people are like, "ooh, if you die in a dream then you'll actually die!"

**Sugarglider11** · 09-22-2009 11:48 PM

Originally Posted by Hidden

Haha. =P

It's so funny when people are like, "ooh, if you die in a dream then you'll actually die!"

I know its Hilarius, my one friend thinks your heart will stop in a falling dream if you hit the ground

I have never died in a dream before... but sounds interesting to try to do. But I think that you can use your death dreams to get some lucid dreams, if you wake up after getting shot/dying you could just stay still and Deild. I hope that you can do that, it could make lucid dreaming so much easier for you.

**Hidden** · 09-23-2009 12:02 AM

I'm almost positive you can do that, assuming you realize that it's a dream soon enough before you wake up. I've DEILDed a couple of times right after a non-lucid ended (the dream faded out). Just be sure to RC afterward in case you get a FA.

**Fattoxthegreat** · 09-23-2009 02:11 AM

Originally Posted by Sugarglider11

I know its Hilarius, my one friend thinks your heart will stop in a falling dream if you hit the ground

I have never died in a dream before... but sounds interesting to try to do. But I think that you can use your death dreams to get some lucid dreams, if you wake up after getting shot/dying you could just stay still and Deild. I hope that you can do that, it could make lucid dreaming so much easier for you.

Hmmm, a DEILD huh. So would I just lie there and imagine myself on the ground with my brains coating the earth? Haha, j/k. But yeah, I never thought about using that as a LD method. Thanks for the advise.

**Sugarglider11** · 09-23-2009 02:22 AM

Originally Posted by Fattoxthegreat

Hmmm, a DEILD huh. So would I just lie there and imagine myself on the ground with my brains coating the earth? Haha, j/k. But yeah, I never thought about using that as a LD method. Thanks for the advise.

Yeah tell me how that goes, I would really like to know

. How often do you have these dreams, it could get you pretty regular lucid dreams.

**gerysignfield** · 09-27-2009 01:47 AM

i have had both lucid dreams and dreams where i am shot ... but never at the same time.... in my dream when im shot in a scuffle i lay there for a while expecting death... but nothing comes... eventually there is a scene change and im no longer shot or dieing..... but in lucid dreams... were i gain control of my actions and thoughts... usally random.... i attempt 2 kill myself usally by divin head first off something... and all that happens is that my dream ends and i wake up

**gerysignfield** · 09-27-2009 01:52 AM

its the exact same for me.... i was shot in a dream and i sat there kinda waitin for death but instead.... there was a scene change and i was nolonger shot or dieing and in a completly different setting.... but in the few lucid dreams i have had i attemped 2 kill myself by diving head first off of objects... and all that happens for me is on impact my dream ends... and i usally wake up

**vahnpaper** · 10-02-2009 10:21 AM

I experienced dying in a dream, but that dream isn't lucid. I saw flashes of lights then I woke up.

**Guinevere** · 10-02-2009 10:48 AM

It's so funny when people are like, "ooh, if you die in a dream then you'll actually die!"

-x-

It seems illogical but there's no way to prove it's entirely impossible. People who died in their sleep can't tell you what happened to them.

I dreamt about being shot and dying in some low-lucid dreams. I just wake up adruptly like from a nightmare.

**detroitLions1970** · 10-02-2009 01:01 PM

Cool question. I've never passed away in a dream, lucid or non-lucid - Probably for the same reason I never get nightmares. It seems my subconcious is very good with leaving knives and guns around whenever I run into dream-danger

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**mowglycdb** · 10-02-2009 01:21 PM

well when I searched for dream meanings , dying means change, something in you is gonna stop existing and something else take it's place.

**Sora** · 10-02-2009 02:38 PM

!!! Death is also a recurring theme in my dreams. Most of my LDs where because I was about to die or was dead. I've found that gun shots are the easiest for me to turn Lucid because the pain is pretty much the same each time and I can recognize it. So I suggest you to tell yourself that if you're dying in any sort of way it's probably because you're dreaming. And you'll get lucid when that happens in your dreams.

**obscurely-lucid** · 10-02-2009 10:06 PM

I've never LD'd and killed myself, but that's an interesting idea.

I had a dream where I died last night. I was shot in the back with an arrow, fell down. Then I was flying through the air and saw someone I knew and figured I was going to heaven.

Heaven was a let-down though.

The dream death = real-life death thing is funny, yeah... but what if it's true? What if I didn't actually wake up this morning, and instead, what appears to be my real life right now is actually the afterlife?

Nah, just kidding. That's ridiculous, right?

**Hidden** · 10-03-2009 12:57 AM

Originally Posted by Guinevere

It seems illogical but there's no way to prove it's entirely impossible. People who died in their sleep can't tell you what happened to them.

If someone had dreamed about dying and then actually did die in their sleep, it was probably dying that caused the dream, not the other way around.

**mentalenforcer** · 10-04-2009 09:24 PM

In normal dreams what usually happens when I die is I'm kicked out of the dream. It doesn't happen instantly, but I can feel the dream start to slip. I can hold on for a bit, but not indefinitely. I feel the wound for a while after I wake up.

**Fattoxthegreat** · 10-04-2009 10:13 PM

Originally Posted by Hidden

If someone had dreamed about dying and then actually did die in their sleep, it was probably dying that caused the dream, not the other way around.

That would be the brain's ultimate "Fuck you!"...Not only are you actually dying, but you get to dream that too! No peaceful affirmations in which you get to see your loved ones or reflect on your life, no no. You get to die while dying. In all seriousness, though, I'd like to think that the brain possesses deep, almost unattainable powers that could willingly cease life function. Not sure why I'd like to think that though...

And as a neat side note, last night I was eaten in a horrible, grotesque manner...

**Hidden** · 10-05-2009 04:24 AM

Originally Posted by Fattoxthegreat

That would be the brain's ultimate "Fuck you!"...Not only are you actually dying, but you get to dream that too! No peaceful affirmations in which you get to see your loved ones or reflect on your life, no no. You get to die while dying. In all seriousness, though, I'd like to think that the brain possesses deep, almost unattainable powers that could willingly cease life function. Not sure why I'd like to think that though...

And as a neat side note, last night I was eaten in a horrible, grotesque manner...

Lol to the first part.

I also have no clue why one would want to think that. o.0

**mini0991** · 10-05-2009 04:49 AM

Originally Posted by mentalenforcer

In normal dreams what usually happens when I die is I'm kicked out of the dream. It doesn't happen instantly, but I can feel the dream start to slip. I can hold on for a bit, but not indefinitely. I feel the wound for a while after I wake up.

Sounds like a "Game Over" scenario...you die, things "reset" and you wake up.

**MrFantasy** · 10-05-2009 04:59 AM

I've had a few non-lucid dreams where I died and kept dreaming after I died. one of them I woke up in a park and didn't know what was going on and there were a bunch of other people there and everyone was confused and didn't know how we got there and then a man came and told us we were dead and we were angels and he was going to teach us how to use our powers to heal and help people.