Thread: Beefer's Crazy Yoga Toad Workbook

Originally Posted by Beefer

Lately , since I practiced the motion skill I spent much less time on the other skills. So I started to practice visualizations a little more than usual. So something like 2 days ago I tried to create a red triangle. First I created a red screen. Than I tried to create the red triangle while speaking to myself in my inner monologue . Now although it was for something like one or two seconds I could see a red triangle with white edge which emphasized it. Later on it just applied into a red screen again ,but to tell you the truth I was pretty excited !

Also I think I will adopt the idea of closing my eyes while practicing the motion skill. I will also try to create a feeling of a bigger spin so it will be easier to distinguish whether I am truly spinning or not ^^ .

!!!YAY!!! Red triangle witnessed by student!!! awesome, keep it up, it can become amazing!

Hey there Sivason,

I haven't posted in a while due to school pressure which is still pressuring hard enough (Math test tomorrow and I don't feel ready enough while I got also some other things to do ,but I will handle it ) .

Anyways I am practicing the energy simulation technique ^^. So I can already feel that as if something is moving across the 2 points I pick all over my body (I think that the 61 points meditation I used to do before going to sleep helped here ^^ ). I have tried to do the step with the water ,but i wasn't really doing good on that. I wasn't really able to aim the water properly so I found the exact state you mentioned only twice. Also I noticed that when I stimulate this feeling of energy moving through my body it seems as if it is a little hot. Warm would be a better way to describe it. I started noticing it when I thought of this movement as if it was the movement of my blood inside my vessels. It seemed pretty logical to me since the blood delivers energy and oxygen to the cells so you may refer to the the blood system as a system that transfers energy to the entire body. I am not sure the biological fact completely match ,but that is how I see it ^^ .

Also lately I noticed that my mind uses many connotations that I am not really aware of. For example every time I want to go to sleep the first thing which pops up in my mind is "go to the toilet!". I also see that in certain states I tend to wander while in others I am quite aware. Usually when I walk around I am very unaware of my surroundings. I discovered it actually from my DJ. I wanted to use it as a dream sign for MILD and when I started to question reality while walking I noticed that my awareness really dwell in that state. I think that maybe there is a relation between the activities I do to the amount of awareness I have. I can remember that when I used to swim on a swimming team I used to alway get lost in thought and not notice the number of pools I swam. I also think that by shifting my focus to something else I might be able to gain more awareness when I do a certain activity.

It sounds like your doing everything right. I am glad at least one student is progressing in the intermediate skills. They take lots of work. Visualizing energy flow can actually produce body heat. Maybe it does stimulate blood flow or something.

Really? Wow this cool !! How can you be sure about that though?

Oh and another thing! May I ask in advance what will be the next skills ?

Aside from me personally being able to change my body tempature and stand naked in a snow storm with out ill effects, and that people can feel the tempature change, studies have been conducted. Here is what I grabbed off Wikipedia just now,,,

*** In the first experiment, in Upper Dharamsala (India), Benson et al. (1982) found that these subjects exhibited the capacity to increase the temperature of their fingers and toes by as much as 8.3°C. In a 2002 experiment, conducted in Normandy (France), two monks from the Buddhist tradition wore sensors that recorded changes in heat production and metabolism (Cromie, 2002)***

As far as the next lesson, I will need to think about it for awhile. I am not sure what skill will be best as most students are not done with the basic stuff. A good one would be to eliminate thoughts. It allows you to gain full control of the lucid, as the uncontrolled factors arise from uncontrolled thought. You can use this skill to prevent DCs and random events from arising. It is pretty advanced, so I am not sure it will be next.

You got me interested! Can you give me even a brief explanation on how to do that? I bet you make your mind busy doing something like focusing only on your breath or just trying to keep track of the time that passes ,so you mind would be to busy to think and by that you might be able to eliminate thought (or at least your inner monologue ). Am I close or is done in another pattern?

Originally Posted by Beefer

You got me interested! Can you give me even a brief explanation on how to do that? I bet you make your mind busy doing something like focusing only on your breath or just trying to keep track of the time that passes ,so you mind would be to busy to think and by that you might be able to eliminate thought (or at least your inner monologue ). Am I close or is done in another pattern?

It is different than that. That is more like the basic skills. This is very subtle and involves learning to push back gently against the very first risings of a thought. It is something new, like diffuse vision was. I guess I could throw it in next as an advanced lesson. For now you can just try to see how early in the growth of a thought can you detect it. Try to witness the birth of the thoughts.

Hey Sivason,

There haven't been to much progress lately in dream yoga skills & LDs in general. Maybe except one neat experience involving visualization where some how red circle appeared on the floor (When my eyes were open ) and I was able to move it around by will, while meditating. Anyways I was not really sure why my LD rate has dropped drastically from a LD every to 3 days to a LD every 1-2 weeks.
I thought it was maybe due pressure at school or lack of sleep ,which could really effect my LD rate ,but I think the main thing is the doubts I have . I tend to doubt everything around ,always. Not only to doubt that something exist ,but also that something does not exist. Now it seems that after I learned to doubt reality I progressed into doubting also the illusion itself. Just like when you realize that reality is an illusion by doubting reality the opposite would make you live inside an illusion. When doing both at the same time , one becomes confused or at least uncertain what is true or false. Now I think that since dreams and reality are an illusion what I need to do is to use faith in order to form the illusion of myself succeeding in seeing through the illusion and by that make it into reality. In other words to be more confident ...
I am sorry for the long post which actually says so little ,but I really felt like writing it that way since that is how it is organized in my head. Now I guess that I am going to try and fulfill what I mentioned above and strengthen the basic skills. Also about trying to stop thoughts. I think you need to become an observer of your thoughts and not be the thinker itself. That is all for now, I am going to sleep now so good night .

You are doing fine. It is only a few who get far enough to question the very basic nature of reality. I have no quick fix for seeing past the illusion, but you are correct, that it takes a belief in your ability to eventually do it. The waking world can be made to comply to a control similar to that used in LDs. You must have a picture of what you want, and be willing to believe that is what is going to happen. Simply picture yourself understanding more every month, and someday making a massive breakthrough. In the mean time, learn these skills, as they help you grasp how much of your reality is subject to preception.

Hey there Sivason,

Haven't posted here for a long time . There is not much of advancement. I am reviewing the basic skills on a daily basis. I like to play with my sense of touch on hearing when ever I feel like it and I feel that my awareness got quite better. I also really liked the energy simulation skill and I do it when ever I am cold usually. I am still trying to figure out how to stop thought ,which is naturally hard for me since I am a 24/7 thinker. At the moment I think that in order to that one must become an observer of his own thoughts ,but on the other hand he must not interact with them at all. I find it a little hard to do and I am not sure wether I am on the right track or not. Will you please give some guide lines about that particular skill ?

Sure, I have a little time off for the holidays, so I will make a new lesson about it. It is very advanced and even with practice you will be needing to suppress a thought evry 30 seconds to a minute. The first trick is to sit in meditation and try to find out the earliest you can detect a thought forming. Get to where you can feel a new thought starting, before your brain turns it into internal monolog. But, I will try to post a whole lesson about it tomorrow or the next day.