Thread: Can someone explain what this picture is from The Matrix?

That's agent smith and he's a creeper

watch the matrix its an awesome movie

Originally Posted by Noogah

Well, I don't have a problem with using the bathroom. And, if a book says, "Gabe got up and used the bathroom" then I am perfectly fine with it.

But if a movie showed somone sitting on the toilet pooing/peeing, I would be thoroughly disgusted.

Why? Sure, actually seeing excrements is not a pleasurable experience, but seeing a person just sitting on the pot, I don't see how that's offensive or disgusting. It might be a little comical though. There will nearly always be a scene in all cop movies/tv series, where two colleagues are talking to each other while in the men's room, for example.

Plus, I'd bet you a bunch of money that whoever they were weren't married to each other, and I believe you know where I stand on that issue.

The Matrix takes place many many years into the future, and all religion has been abandoned in the real world, though it still persists inside the Matrix (the virtual world). Only one or two spiritual persons are actually seen in the real world, and they just believe some kind of hoodoo voodoo thing. Also, spoilers, them having sex is essential to the survival of the human race, so skipping formalities such as marriage is necessary.

In the end though, I just don't watch R rated films. Yeah, reality has lots of garbage in it, but I watch movies/read books to escape garbage, not get an extra dose of it. There are plenty of good non R rated movies out there, so I don't feel like I'm missing out on much.

If I remember correctly, you should be 14 or 15 by now. If you think sex is garbage, then I don't know what the hell.

Originally Posted by Akono

Machete- Easily one of the best Mexploitation movies I've seen. Cheesy over the top action. Tons of blood. A storyline better than most action films. It's the movie Robert Rodriguez should have made for Grindhouse.

... wrong thread?

Why? Sure, actually seeing excrements is not a pleasurable experience, but seeing a person just sitting on the pot

Well, no. I wouldn't mind a shot of someone sitting on the toilet. But if we are to keep an accurate analogy here, you would see everything, and you would see the excretement occur. That: is disgusting and uncivilized.

Only one or two spiritual persons are actually seen in the real world, and they just believe some kind of hoodoo voodoo thing. Also, spoilers, them having sex is essential to the survival of the human race, so skipping formalities such as marriage is necessary.

So then, they have an excuse for breeding without being married. Fair enough.

However, they still don't have to show it actually happening.

If you think sex is garbage, then I don't know what the heck.

I don't think that the concept itself is garbage.

However, it is a private thing, and should be kept private. Not displayed on a huge theatre screen in front of a bunch of people.

Now, for me, as a Christian, I have more reasons.

It's more than just private. It's special. Sacred.
It's something sacred to be kept between one man, and one woman. That was how it was created to be. Displaying it happening on screen for anybody to watch cheapens it, and will very likely end up causing lust. Yes, it probably will. And, lust is a form of adultery.

But you don't believe any of that, so...

Anyways. I don't want to turn out a huge debate here.

This is the way I feel, and I couldn't, with a good conscience, watch an R rated film with a ton of swearing and violence and nudity.

Originally Posted by Ephesians 2:21-22

21In whom all the building fitly framed together groweth unto an holy temple in the Lord:

22In whom ye also are builded together for an habitation of God through the Spirit.

As this implies, as a Christian, the Holy Spirit dwells within me. I have a responsibility to keep myself clean. If I can avoid seeing nudity, swearing, and gore, then I will.

I say gore rather than violence, because for me, personally, I can handle violence, and I don't think it is one of my weaknesses.

But, if you can do it, then good for you.

In the end though, I just don't watch R rated films. Yeah, reality has lots of garbage in it, but I watch movies/read books to escape garbage, not get an extra dose of it. There are plenty of good non R rated movies out there, so I don't feel like I'm missing out on much.

Thanks for the answers Xei and Oneironaut.

It's still funny that you're calling sex 'garbage', but thanks for saying thanks anyway.

Well, no. I wouldn't mind a shot of someone sitting on the toilet. But if we are to keep an accurate analogy here, you would see everything, and you would see the excretement occur. That: is disgusting and uncivilized.

Hahaha...

Dude, some day in a few years you're going to look back at these posts and squirm with embarrassment, I swear.

On what are you basing your 'knowledge' of sex scenes if you've never seen one? I feel sorry for you, you've clearly been exposed to some extreme propaganda, fearmongering and lies from your mentors.

Sex scenes don't 'show everything'. The idea that a sex scene in a mainstream movie would explicitly show penetration as you seem to believe will be found absolutely hilarious by virtually anybody else your age, I guarantee you.

There's a difference between Hollywood and porn for chrissakes. In virtually every sex scene in mainstream movies the worst thing you're going to see is breasts.

It's pretty clear to me that the people who are supposed to be looking after you are sheltering you from living a decent life with complete lies. Please try to start expanding who you listen to and forming some proper objective opinions rather than eating up all this shit you're being fed by those in your immediate vicinity.

You want the one on the right, Noogah.

Originally Posted by Xei

It's still funny that you're calling sex 'garbage', but thanks for saying thanks anyway.

It seems I shall have to resort to quoting myself:

Originally Posted by Noogah

I don't think that the concept itself is garbage, However, it is a private thing, and should be kept private.

In fact, I even said...

Originally Posted by Noogah

It's special. Sacred.

...so can we move on now? Or will you make me explain myself again?

Originally Posted by Xei

On what are you basing your 'knowledge' of sex scenes if you've never seen one? I feel sorry for you, you've clearly been exposed to some extreme propaganda, fearmongering and lies from your mentors.

...well, I'm assuming it's a scene of two people having sex, hence "sex scene". I've never actually read anything specifically on the topic, nor has any "mentor" of mine ever addressed it. It seems rather self explanatory to me. I mean, are you telling me that this is not what it is...?

Originally Posted by Xei

In virtually every sex scene in mainstream movies the worst thing you're going to see is breasts.

And that's nudity.

And to what I've read on movie review websites (which I often read), there seems to be an awful lot of this "worst thing you're going to see" popping up in movies nowadays.

But, your point is taken. My analogy isn't a perfect one.

However...

For it to be called a "sex scene", I think it's fair to assume there's going to be more in there than I want to see of it. That's all I'm saying.

The worst I want to see in a movie is kissing. If it goes beyond that, then it isn't something I wish to see.

You people seem to think I'm controlled by what others tell me. That may be how it works in the public schools, but it isn't how I work. My primary "mentor" is God, and his word. I usually take what people say with a grain of salt until I have researched it myself, and you would be surprised if you knew how much I differ from my Christian peers.

A "sex scene" isn't actually a scene with sex in it, it's just to people lying on top of each other, sometimes without clothes on, sometimes showing boobs. Theoretically it's as much a sex scene as if you read it in a book.

I agree with Xei. When you grow older, you're gonna have a hard time facing how this world actually works.

Originally Posted by Noogah

The worst I want to see in a movie is kissing. If it goes beyond that, then it isn't something I wish to see.[/B]

You are severely limiting your options when it come to movies, films and pictures. Now... a lot of Religious art has nudity and what not in it.. I'd get some examples, but I don't think the Mods would like that.

I don't understand what what you find so freaking offensive about sex. Its natural and nothing to be disgusted about.

Man I hate religion for this exact reason

Go find out for yourself. ;D
And just because a film is "R" rated, doesn't mean it should be R-rated... I saw the Matrix when I was thirteen and loved it. If you still don't believe me, go on imdb and look at the parental advisory. Nothing scarring at all, not even for you.

lol.

I'm so afraid that I'll have to wait twenty some years for a movie to crush The Matrix from being the greatest movie ever. Inception is nowhere near as good, as great, as brilliant as The Matrix...

and ye +1 @ "When you grow older, you're gonna have a hard time facing how this world actually works."

A "sex scene" isn't actually a scene with sex in it, it's just to people lying on top of each other, sometimes without clothes on, sometimes showing boobs. Theoretically it's as much a sex scene as if you read it in a book.

Well, yeah What DO you consider that?

In any case, it's definitely nothing I wish to see.

I agree with Xei. When you grow older, you're gonna have a hard time facing how this world actually works.

Well, respectfully, you and Xei are quite wrong. I strongly disagree with including sex/nudity in public performances, including movies. In no way does this imply that I will have a difficult time "facing how this world actually works".

You know what I do instead? I don't watch R rated movies with sex/nudity. In fact, just to be safe, I don't watch R rated movies. Bingo! Problem solved.

Originally Posted by OldSparta

You are severely limiting your options when it come to movies, films and pictures.

Nonsense. There are many many many many many non R rated movies/films/pictures/books/media/etc. without explicit content. And more are made all the time.

And if, in the end, there is none after-all, then hang films/books and media. I can live a very comfortable life without them. I won't compromise morality for entertainment.

Originally Posted by OldSparta

Now... a lot of Religious art has nudity and what not in it.. I'd get some examples, but I don't think the Mods would like that.

I know. And it isn't any art I enjoy.

Originally Posted by OldSparta

I don't understand what what you find so freaking offensive about sex. Its natural and nothing to be disgusted about.

You know what? This is getting old. I'm going to quote myself for the second time, and please actually take the time to read it.

Originally Posted by Noogah

I don't think that the concept itself is garbage.

However, it is a private thing, and should be kept private. Not displayed on a huge theatre screen in front of a bunch of people.

Now, for me, as a Christian, I have more reasons.

It's more than just private. It's special. Sacred.
It's something sacred to be kept between one man, and one woman. That was how it was created to be.

Originally Posted by Puffin

go on imdb and look at the parental advisory. Nothing scarring at all, not even for you.

I have. It's the first place I went to. And there is quite a bit of offensive stuff in it. And IMDB parental guide isn't even a very accurate source.

This thread has served it's purpose, so I'm requesting a lock.

Originally Posted by Noogah

This thread has served it's purpose, so I'm requesting a lock.

Good call.