Thread: PS3 or Xbox360

The bulk of my argument is basically:

Everything consoles do, the PC can do better, and then there's a lot of stuff PC does that consoles don't. This comes at a price of course, but if you spend large amounts of time playing games or just using computers, you might aswell put a lot of money into it.

The only real advantage consoles have, apart from being cheap, is the exclusive games, and even that is becoming irellevant.

I Prefer The PS3 Controller Its light + It has sixaxis

Xbox controllers need batteries... one clear disadvantage...

PC is compatible with all control schemes.

Originally Posted by Marvo

PC is compatible with all control schemes.

But again, if you're even considering a current-gen console, you probably already have a PC, and probably one capable of playing at least most fairly recent games. I'm reasonably confident that stormcrow has a PC and at least occasionally plays games on it. Buying a console is a separate decision entirely.

Consoles are also inherently more social. When was the last time you saw four people doing anything simultaneously on a single PC?

Originally Posted by dajo

Xbox controllers need batteries... one clear disadvantage...

Uh, so do wireless keyboards and mice. And you can get wired controllers too, or use rechargeable batteries.

Originally Posted by Photolysis

Uh, so do wireless keyboards and mice. And you can get wired controllers too, or use rechargeable batteries.

That.


Besides, I was gonna comment on his post saying that IMO, having to recharge controllers the way you have to on the PS3 is more annoying than using batteries.

For my 360, I have a charger and two batteries. Whenever I'm playing I'll leave one charging, so I have about 10 seconds of downtime whilst switching the batteries when needed, and I get the freedom of movement without having to worry about pulling cables out and so on. And it saves me having to spend the GDP of a small county on batteries.

Originally Posted by Taosaur

But again, if you're even considering a current-gen console, you probably already have a PC, and probably one capable of playing at least most fairly recent games. I'm reasonably confident that stormcrow has a PC and at least occasionally plays games on it. Buying a console is a separate decision entirely.

Consoles are also inherently more social. When was the last time you saw four people doing anything simultaneously on a single PC?

I have frequent get-togethers with my friends, where we bring our computers and play all kinds of games. Also had a bunch of LAN parties with my clan.

Some PC games can do splitscreen, but it's just so rare, because people play online instead, or bring their computer a long, when visiting friends.

Yeah. Two major releases that support splitscreen are L4D2 and dirt 3. I know of no others.

But, that does not make PC gaming less social. I play a lot more with my friends online than console gaming friends could play on splitscreen, and if one really wants to game in the same room, a LAN party is a viable option

Originally Posted by JussiKala

Yeah. Two major releases that support splitscreen are L4D2 and dirt 3. I know of no others.

Guitar Hero/Rockband Series, COD, Halo, Gears of War series, Gran Turismo, Need for Speed, Sports Games, and then the fighters like MK, Tekken, Street Fighter II, and Dead or alive, that simply don't require it.

No one in my generation ever wants to hear "hey bring your computer over for a quick game of madden". Believe it or not, there are a lot of people who still think computers are just for downloading songs and homework.

Originally Posted by Auron

Guitar Hero/Rockband Series, COD, Halo, Gears of War series, Gran Turismo, Need for Speed, Sports Games, and then the fighters like MK, Tekken, Street Fighter II, and Dead or alive, that simply don't require it.

No one in my generation ever wants to hear "hey bring your computer over for a quick game of madden". Believe it or not, there are a lot of people who still think computers are just for downloading songs and homework.

On the PC I meant. Those are the only two PC games that I know to have SS

It doesn't matter if people have a stereotypical view of what a computer does. I made 3 of my closest friends go from console to PC, and they are happy that they did. It's a whole nother experience than the one you get on the console.

Where I live, people never do splitscreen anymore anyways. It's all "Hey come online on PSN later tonite and lets play BLACKK OOOPSSS". Yeah... As if one couldn't do that on a PC anyways.

But if you really want splitscreen, it's one upside of consoles.

Originally Posted by JussiKala

On the PC I meant. Those are the only two PC games that I know to have SS

Sorry about that.

Originally Posted by JussiKala

It doesn't matter if people have a stereotypical view of what a computer does. I made 3 of my closest friends go from console to PC, and they are happy that they did. It's a whole nother experience than the one you get on the console.

You'd probably make a good salesman. Speaking of which...the highest selling console happens to be the cheapest. It's proof that the vast majority don't care about graphics. They'll sacrifice that in order to get the best bang for their buck, which means you have an uphill battle when it comes to converting the masses. And speaking of bucks...people on consoles are WAY more likely to actually buy games vs pirating them.

Originally Posted by Auron

Speaking of which...the highest selling console happens to be the cheapest. It's proof that the vast majority don't care about graphics. They'll sacrifice that in order to get the best bang for their buck, which means you have an uphill battle when it comes to converting the masses. And speaking of bucks...people on consoles are WAY more likely to actually buy games vs pirating them.

But this is not the masses we're trying to sway here, only the OP of this thread

Sure, consoles are kind of cheaper, if you don't know how to budget. I originally had a semi decent dual core in my PC, and when I started PC gaming, I picked up an ATi 5770, which was a cheap GPU at 139€ for me. That made my PC play pretty much every game out there well aside from two or three that were console ports that required a quad core to run, such as GTA IV. That was cheaper than buying a console would've been, and I think I got a better result IMO

Now I've spent more money on my PC and there's no game I can't run at max smoothly aside from crysis 1 and metro 2033 and whitcher 2 (though I can lower the graphics in all of these to make them run). And I've still only spent 350€, even though I got some expensive stuff here. I just used some great opportunities to get cheap but decent hardware.

PC gaming does not have to be more expensive. And not to even mention the game prices themselves. On consoles, game prices decline veeery slowly, while on the PC, services such as steam provide occasional sales that put the price down to something very low (5-15€ is a common price during a sale, on a 40€ game), and on top of that, the game prices decline much faster from my experience. That's another point where you save money on the PC.

Though you will most likely spend more money if you are going PC. It's just that it's possible to make a gaming PC with less money than a console would cost, and maintain that hobby with less money than on consoles.


Pirating here is not relevant, don't know why you brought that up. Happens on all platforms, though more common on the PC. Yes.

Originally Posted by JussiKala

Pirating here is not relevant, don't know why you brought that up. Happens on all platforms, though more common on the PC. Yes.

Pirating is part of the reason why PC games hit rock bottom so fast. It's also the reason why they get low sales. It's also the reason why I can't resale my game if I'm done with it. Console games cost more, but they actually have resale value which makes up for the price tag. I can also rent console games. PC games have the same resale value of underwear. Once you buy them, they're yours, and that's it.

Originally Posted by JussiKala

Yeah. Two major releases that support splitscreen are L4D2 and dirt 3. I know of no others.

But, that does not make PC gaming less social. I play a lot more with my friends online than console gaming friends could play on splitscreen, and if one really wants to game in the same room, a LAN party is a viable option

How many orders of magnitude more often do you think someone picks up a controller with a friend or two vs. someone going to a LAN party? Three-ish? Yeah, I'm gonna go with about a thousand times more often. As for playing online, it's something all current systems can do, and it's still less social than being in the same room with other humans.

But PC gaming is still leagues better than any other gaming platform.

Funny how that works, huh?

Originally Posted by Auron

Pirating is part of the reason why PC games hit rock bottom so fast. It's also the reason why they get low sales. It's also the reason why I can't resale my game if I'm done with it. Console games cost more, but they actually have resale value which makes up for the price tag. I can also rent console games. PC games have the same resale value of underwear. Once you buy them, they're yours, and that's it.

While it is true that piracy happens more often on PC, a lot of your statements are incorrect. It has been proven a lot of times, that good games sell, bad games are pirated. Battlefield: Bad Company 2 is a good example of this.
About the whole reselling thing, publishers have actually said, that the reason they're putting anti-resale restrictions on their games, is because they don't want people to resell them. Publishers know by now, that stopping piracy is impossible. It can't be done. You can only prevent people from using the online features, which is what they do. But they can still easily prevent reselling. So they do that instead.

And they will do exactly the same on consoles eventually. It has already begun with initiatives like Steamworks.

Originally Posted by Marvo

But PC gaming is still leagues better than any other gaming platform.

Funny how that works, huh?

After how many patches right out of the box?

Originally Posted by Marvo

While it is true that piracy happens more often on PC, a lot of your statements are incorrect. It has been proven a lot of times, that good games sell, bad games are pirated. Battlefield: Bad Company 2 is a good example of this.
About the whole reselling thing, publishers have actually said, that the reason they're putting anti-resale restrictions on their games, is because they don't want people to resell them. Publishers know by now, that stopping piracy is impossible. It can't be done. You can only prevent people from using the online features, which is what they do. But they can still easily prevent reselling. So they do that instead.

And they will do exactly the same on consoles eventually. It has already begun with initiatives like Steamworks.

And this has almost no effect on the current plethora of games that are available for the PS3. We can still get online with used games, and the only thing that may be missing is a few weapons, or bonus character which can be purchased on their market. The PSP Go got discontinued because console gamers still want physical games. Until really good broadband becomes a standard in all areas, it's going to be that much harder to do. If the current or next generation completely gets rid of physical, reusable products they know they'll lose a lot of customers. But we should be discussing the present.

Originally Posted by Photolysis

Uh, so do wireless keyboards and mice. And you can get wired controllers too, or use rechargeable batteries.

I was just comparing Xbox Controller with PS3 Controller..

Originally Posted by JussiKala

Besides, I was gonna comment on his post saying that IMO, having to recharge controllers the way you have to on the PS3 is more annoying than using batteries.

How?

granted the cable is quite short, but you can play while charging and don't waste all those batteries.

(ok, you can recharge 'em, but still)

Originally Posted by Marvo

But PC gaming is still leagues better than any other gaming platform.

"My preferences are empirically superior to other people's preferences. Everyone else is just stupid."

Originally Posted by Taosaur

"My preferences are empirically superior to other people's preferences. Everyone else is just stupid."

Well I can only report anecdotal evidence, but nearly all people I've ever spoken to agree, that PC is the best platform.

Originally Posted by Marvo

Well I can only report personal anecdotes, but nearly all people I've ever spoken to agree, that PC is the best platform.

And from what I see, the ones that dont' agree aren't actually aware of what kind of a gaming platform the PC actually is.

Well, I have an Xbox 360 and I've gone through 2 in 4 1/2 years. Xbox definitely has the best online experience, but without a doubt PS3 is a must if your a big RPG fan; simply because all of the Japanese devs have signed on with it. I enjoy the Xbox more because, even though their only sole title is Halo, all of the great games transfer to it. Basically, it boils down to: do you want to pay $60 a year for internet, and have an awesome time? Or do you want it for free, with a Blu-Ray player and have a not-as-awesome-time? (Playstation Home)

Originally Posted by JussiKala

And from what I see, the ones that dont' agree aren't actually aware of what kind of a gaming platform the PC actually is.

The PC with all it's bells and whistles still wont allow me to play certain games just because they've never came out for that system. Madden 11, Ridge Racer Series, Kingdom Hearts, Gran Toursimo series, most fighters made by Capcom and Namco such as Tekken and the Vs. Series, hell Forza never came out on the PC...what's up with that? Now when it comes to the PC, the only games I wish that came out for consoles are the Diablo and Warcraft series.

I don't care how many frames per second a PC is pushing if it's not running the games I want to play.