Thread: What causes physical attraction?

Yeah. She's super hot.



I'd totally tap that.

HAHA, what movie is that from?
EDIT: Oh, Big Fish, I keep meaning to watch that.

The problem with using actresses etc is that the majority of them have had work done.

I'd use my mum as an example. She's 43 and I think she looks really good for her age

Helena Bonham Carter hasn't had plastic surgery. Guarantee it.

Also I think it's a bit of an exaggeration to say a "majority have had work done".
It's pretty damn obvious when someone does. And they usually look worse than before too.

I'm not talking lip plumpers and face lifts, I'm on about stuff like botox (which you CAN get to look subtle. People just use too much) and chemical peels. This make you look younger without over-doing it. There are also laser skin thingys and whatever else I don't know of.

I was going to mention some celebrities as examples of 30/40 year olds who are looking really good, but then realised that they are not everyday people. They have money, stylists, makeup artists, hair stylists, doctors, nutritionists, personal trianers and whoever else to keep them on the path of looking youthful. So I didn't mention any. I figured we were talking of regular people that we meet everyday.

Originally Posted by Raspberry

I'm not talking lip plumpers and face lifts, I'm on about stuff like botox (which you CAN get to look subtle. People just use too much) and chemical peels. This make you look younger without over-doing it. There are also laser skin thingys and whatever else I don't know of.

I was going to mention some celebrities as examples of 30/40 year olds who are looking really good, but then realised that they are not everyday people. They have money, stylists, makeup artists, hair stylists, doctors, nutritionists, personal trianers and whoever else to keep them on the path of looking youthful. So I didn't mention any. I figured we were talking of regular people that we meet everyday.

Oh well you mentioned Johnny Depp which reminded me of her. (They're in pretty much every tim burton movie).

I also know probably 2 or 3 of my friends mums that I've known are beautiful. But that doesn't provide any meaning to Dianeva.

I know right? I love Tim Burton. And Helena Bonham Carter is a beautiful woman. I remember seeing her in Harry Potter and being like "whaaa?"

And I'm sure Dianeva can think of a few DILFs

Helena looked pretty hot in Fight Club and Sweeny Todd

Originally Posted by Raspberry

And I'm sure Dianeva can think of a few DILFs

Not really. I can tell who would be attractive to other women, probably in the same way men can tell what other men might be attractive. But the idea of being with a guy more than maybe 3 years older than I am is repulsive.

I was about to bring up my aunts as some normal people in their 40s who are still attractive, but remembered they have had work done and pay a lot of attention to their appearances.

I'm glad to hear that some older women are found attractive. But that's fixing the problem at a shallow level. My goal is to not care in the first place about how attractive I'm perceived to be. So far it seems impossible, since no matter how much I consciously realize it shouldn't matter (I have a significant other already who I'll be with for life so I'm not trying to attract anyone), it still does. The thought of getting old and wrinkly and ugly is like a nightmare.

Well, it should matter to some extent - I'm assuming you'd still want to be seen as attractive to him/her - so there's nothing wrong with that. As long as you're not obsessing over little things, there isn't really anything wrong with wanting to look good (provided you're not worrying too much).

Yeah, stress will make you age more quickly. So STOP STRESSING OVER IT OR YOU'LL GET WRINKLY AND UGLY!!!!

hehe But really, it's not worth it, it's gonna happen, and if someone comes out with some technology that stops aging, well then that's good.
But worrying isn't going to help that process.

Originally Posted by tommo

Yeah, stress will make you age more quickly. So STOP STRESSING OVER IT OR YOU'LL GET WRINKLY AND UGLY!!!!

Yup. Better learn to let go of that fear quick, Dianeva; while you're still young.

I look at my line-free and youthful face and... don't really think anything. I stay out the sun (and wear suncream), I don't smoke/take drugs, and I try and look after. So I guess I won't be too bad in 30 years time.

But I really like smile-lines

My mum's skin's fine apart from around her eyes. I find it weird since she's a sun-tan freak (she doesn't understand why I stay out of it. "Skin damage!" I tell her, but she doesn't listen) and she used to smoke. She gave up around 10 years ago, but I think she done it for a good while.

I think women who are too focused on looking younger look horrible. Either through getting work done or too much makeup, skanky clothes etc. I think older women look much, much better when they "grow old gracefully"

when youd don't care about how you look, you normally look beautiful naturally. Although beauty is subjective.....

Hmmm I dunno... There's a difference between low maintanence and not caring. I myself am low-maintanence. I look after my skin and hair, but that's kinda necessary. I don't wear much makeup (a little blush and mascara), I don't do the whole wash, blowdry, straighten thing with my hair every morning (just at weekends). My hair's wavy so I just leave it alone. I'm not one of those people who MUST wear the latest fashion and is obsessed with fashion week.. No thanks.

That to me is low maintanence. I make sure I look neat without going over the top. I keep it simple. I know some people who "don't care" and let's face it... They don't look too pretty. Usually they look like they've just rolled out of bed. I'm not saying that doing your hair, clothes and makeup is essential, but making sure you're clean and neat is good. Natural beauty is the best in my opinion, but you kinda need to help it along the way

Mind you, I don't think there's anything worse than seeing a girl who's WAAAAY overdone and looks like a tramp. For example:



There are so many girls who look like this at my school

well I mean not caring in a sense that you do not look in the mirror judging yourself in negative ways. Rather you see yourself for who you are kind of...
I would like not to look ridiculous or like I just got out of bed because I prefer to blend in. And not have people projecting their thoughts on me as much as possible.
so i do what I can to look acceptable by society or whoever I'm surrounded by so I do not stick out. Most of the judgement people umm experience? is self inflicted. I mean you might think your ugly, but most people don't really care, and aren't judging you unless you stand out.

Another thing thats been on my mind is, if you don't feel lustful towards anyone else, you don't judge yourself by how you look. I mean lustful in a sense of being physically attracted to someone that makes you horny. But maybe you would if the person you longed to be loved by judged you by your physical appearance and saw you unworthy based on their expectations. Expectations and judgment are the only things holding us back from unconditional love.
Physical appearance I think is not that important. When you really love someone it is the most amazing feeling ever.

Originally Posted by saltyseedog

when youd don't care about how you look, you normally look beautiful naturally. Although beauty is subjective.....

I have always said that beauty is in the hands of the butt holder.

I myself perfer a woman who does not use make-up, perfumes, nail polish etc., besides, I am alergic to aromatic hydrocarbons--it causes chemical depression in me--the exact opposite of normal people.

I thought you disappeared forever philosopher

I did, I am just a latent image.

I got a question, how do the boys and men of DVs feel about makeup? For so many women, they wouldn't dare go outside in the public without some makeup on. They believe they look ugly without it. It's insecurity in its glory! Of course you have some women who say "but I only wear a little bit of makeup" but even a little bit of makeup means you looked in the mirror and felt ugly.

What I don't know is how do the guys feel, because sometimes I feel like its all in a womens head, but I dont know. So do you guys find women ugly if she doesn't wear makeup? Or do you just notice a women more if she does? Is it dependent on age and health? If youre in a relationship now with a women, are you horrified when you see her in the morning without her makeup glow? And how long does the effect of makeup have on you? Does it just grab your attention when you first see her face, does it hold your attention, or does after awhile her face is just another face?

Theres a whole science to makeup and why its considered sexy. The blush, the red lips, the eye shadow (if pinkish) all imitate an increase in blood flow when a women is excited. The mascara and eyeliner make you notice the pupils more, as you would if they were dilated. The base creating an even skin tone, an illusion of optimum health and youth.

And healthy is sexy!

Of course outside of an illusion, makeup also has personalities attached to it. The makeup of a goth, of a business women, your mom. Some girls just like to dress up to feel more mature, sexually mature of course. Others claim its a form of self-expression.

Self-expression aside, because I think that's actually rare in the makeup world, most women are just insecure!

Im just curious what the guys think. When and where is makeup attractive, when is it not necessary? Who should wear makeup? How much? Is it a measure of her personality? Social status? And, have you ever found a bare naked female face sexy or beautiful? I'm asking because some guys think a women covered in dirt and sweat is sexy, and she doesn't smell pretty!

I have not seen my Avon Lady in decades.

I myself started wearing makeup when I was 11. At the time I thought I was old enough, but now I'm like "whoa... 11?"

The beauty industry uses womens insecurity to sell their product. They make you feel ugly without something, by using a model who's been edited and then offering a product to "fix" something.

When I was 11, my mum took me to a show. She put a little pink eyeshadow on me, and from then on I started wearing it. I felt SO pretty at that show, even with just a little makeup on. I think that's why I started wearing it. I went a little makeup crazy, I started wearing mascara, eyeliner, eyeshadow, foundation... Ugh. I'm glad I stopped that.

Then I just got used to it. I usually stop wearing makeup in the summer, because it just sweats off and I think it's nice to be all clean and natural in the sun. But in the autumn/winter I wear a little., (mascara, blush, maybe a little concealer for dark circles) It's not from insecurity, I like the way I look without makeup. I'm not the type of person who looks in the mirror and tells herself "Oh my god I'm so ugly." I don't pick things out and critisize myself. I live with it and remember that no one is perfect. But saying that, I like the way I look with makeup better.

I like having a glow. In the summer, I tan lightly (even with sun cream) and get it that way. In winter I like a little blush and shimmer because I go pale.

Then again, a lot of my friends NEVER go out without makeup. Ever. I ask them "What if you're just nipping to a store?" and they say nope, they NEED makeup on.

Originally Posted by juroara

I got a question, how do the boys and men of DVs feel about makeup? For so many women, they wouldn't dare go outside in the public without some makeup on. They believe they look ugly without it. It's insecurity in its glory! Of course you have some women who say "but I only wear a little bit of makeup" but even a little bit of makeup means you looked in the mirror and felt ugly.

I feel pretty much the same way about makeup and shaving. I like women that just say no. Makeup can definitely fake the signs of youth and ovulation which is why it makes women look "prettier" but it's just a fake. And it's not that I like hairy armpits on a woman but that I like what it can say about the woman. Some women don't shave because it's fashionable within their circles. They tend to be into kooky shit too. The ones that don't shave or use makeup and still value rational thought are pretty much the type specimens of my perfect woman.

Let me just put it this way. Some women look better with makeup. Some women look just as good either way. But I've never known a woman who looked worse with makeup. (Assuming it's applied in a reasonable way of course.)