Thread: ABORTION: Where do you stand?

Originally Posted by sloth

I used to be pro-choice, until I watched a few abortions through ultrasound.
As the suction tube was sucking up the babies' bodies, they would squirm, and push themselves against the sides of the uteris, trying to get away.

Now I am undecided.

Confused. Are you sure it wasn't a propaganda film? I'm sure it was moving around because of the device itself creating a current. Most aborted fetuses are the size of a peanut, they have no limbs and certainly can't swim, as they have no brain yet. A later abortion still won't swim away (at least not purposefully,) as even though it may have a brain at the time, it's not sentient, nor can it see. That doesn't happen until third trimester. Most likely what you were seeing was it reacting to the ultrasound itself, not the vaccuum. All fetuses react to ultrasound, that is why you aren't supposed to do it very often.

Originally Posted by ninja9578

Confused. Are you sure it wasn't a propaganda film? I'm sure it was moving around because of the device itself creating a current. Most aborted fetuses are the size of a peanut, they have no limbs and certainly can't swim, as they have no brain yet. A later abortion still won't swim away (at least not purposefully,) as even though it may have a brain at the time, it's not sentient, nor can it see. That doesn't happen until third trimester. Most likely what you were seeing was it reacting to the ultrasound itself, not the vaccuum. All fetuses react to ultrasound, that is why you aren't supposed to do it very often.

I'm pretty sure it WAS an... at least biased film.
Your post makes me feel a little better, though I'm still not sure what I saw. It was a large fetus (all three videos), and did have limbs.
I hope you are correct.

Originally Posted by sloth

I'm pretty sure it WAS an... at least biased film.
Your post makes me feel a little better, though I'm still not sure what I saw. It was a large fetus (all three videos), and did have limbs.
I hope you are correct.

Limbs don't happen until second trimester. Well, they are there, but don't really look like limbs, and certainly can't be used for swimming. It wasn't self-aware, and it can't feel or see anything. Large fetuses are a minority of abortions, most are tiny. Peanut size, because most people get them as soon as they find out. In the amount of time it takes a woman to miss her period, the fetus is just a tiny collection of stem cells.

Those large fetuses were probably shown just to make it look more human in a propaganda film. Those are usually aborted because the baby is causing serious health problems for the mother, but of course a propaganda film won't mention that, they want you to think that's what all aborted fetuses look like.

This is what a fetus looks like at 2 months, which is when most are performed.

It's smaller than your thumb, has little to no organs, they eyes don't work, there is little to no brain matter (months from functioning), no skin, no nerves... It's mostly still stem cells.

Originally Posted by ninja9578

Limbs don't happen until second trimester. Well, they are there, but don't really look like limbs, and certainly can't be used for swimming. It wasn't self-aware, and it can't feel or see anything. Large fetuses are a minority of abortions, most are tiny. Peanut size, because most people get them as soon as they find out. In the amount of time it takes a woman to miss her period, the fetus is just a tiny collection of stem cells.

Those large fetuses were probably shown just to make it look more human in a propaganda film. Those are usually aborted because the baby is causing serious health problems for the mother, but of course a propaganda film won't mention that, they want you to think that's what all aborted fetuses look like.

This is what a fetus looks like at 2 months, which is when most are performed.

It's smaller than your thumb, has little to no organs, they eyes don't work, there is little to no brain matter, no skin, no nerves... It's mostly still stem cells.

I hope you're right.

Originally Posted by ninja9578

Am I the only one who thinks that looks more like some horrible type of seafood?