Well if there is a "perfect" God and he asked you to go to war then he would have to have a good reason for it and therefore the war would be justifiable. |
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If a "God" existed, would Holy Wars (wars declared or waged in support of a religious cause) disgust him, or would he smile in approval? I suppose this may depend upon which God you believe in. I know with certainty that most Eastern religions would never teach nor condone a Holy War of any sort. This does not mean they have never known war, because the east has known many, but none of these wars to my knowledge were centered around religious beliefs. I think this is a bit different when it comes to Christianity or the Muslim faiths. |
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Last edited by ThePieMan; 09-13-2011 at 11:27 PM.
Well if there is a "perfect" God and he asked you to go to war then he would have to have a good reason for it and therefore the war would be justifiable. |
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"For a long time it gave me nightmares, having to witness an injustice like that. It was a constant reminder of how unfair this world can be, I can still hear them taunting him. 'Silly Rabbit, Trix are for kids!'... How come they just couldn't give him some cereal?"
If death is really only a way to get closer to "God", then there's no moral ambiguity at all in killing. So I would go as far as to say that holy wars are justifiable even for imperfect gods. |
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The Nazis destroyed Europe because they were told to by an omnipotent icon, too. Doesn't make it any less abhorrent. Not being able to work out a moral code for yourself (requiring authority to tell you what's right), or acting morally just out of fear of punishment and lust after a reward, are both immoral behaviours. |
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I'm going with that holy wars are a contradiction, complete opposite, because in any religion I can name they have a strict rule against killing. |
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Interesting how many religious texts also have rules permitting or even condoning killing. |
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Thou shalt not kill... Unless they're pagan. |
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No |
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Dat means electrons don't exist? GOD DOES EXist!!! The bible says so. |
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Yea, the bible fucking says he does. You gotta problem with that? |
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This should be in R/S. |
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The only holy war that I can think of that could actually be a holy war is the one that takes place in your head! |
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This is really one of those perspective questions. If there is a God, and he tells you its ok to commit wars on people outside of your faith, you would probably find that justifiable, especially if we are talking about a "perfect god". Now, if said god is not perfect, like say the greek gods, then no holy war would not be justifiable because there would be some way to out reason it. How said god proves he is perfect is...well again up to debate since we dont really know what a perfect god (or human) is do we? |
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A warrior does not give up what he loves, he finds the love in what he does
Only those who attempt the absurd can achieve the impossible.
This is my way of thinking of it; I'm quite certain that if there is a God, he is not perfect. He's not even a god in the traditional sense of the word. If God exists, then he is just another Alien, except a many-multi-demnsional one who, because of his many dimensions, can do things we think impossible. Because this God is so much more powerful than us, we have over time come to equate his power with perfection, probably because most humans are naturally power hungry. So in this case, weather Holy war is not justifiable/ justifiable has nothing to do with God . Why would it? He's just a giant Alien! Who is he to tell us what to do? Even if this giant several-dimensional alien had a hand in our creation, does that mean we are subservient to it forever? |
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Last edited by Lucid_boy; 09-15-2011 at 03:45 AM.
Infinitly greater than you are... Damn that missing E.
Perhaps, because some book I read made sense with strongly supported claims? |
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Jesus Christ, what the hell does God have to do with a justified Holy War? |
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I think God would be laughing or crying for our sake. Maybe both. |
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Jujutsu is the gentle art. It's the art where a small man is going to prove to you, no matter how strong you are, no matter how mad you get, that you're going to have to accept defeat. That's what jujutsu is.
I like the point you're making, even if holy wars are disguised as a battle between spiritual good and evil, they're really a lot more practical. They're about preserving traditions. The Islamist Extremists feel the enticing west is corroding their society, and if their society has any value to it, it will defend itself. |
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Everything works out in the end, sometimes even badly.
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