Never hesitate to be more explicit. |
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That was my conclusion as well.... |
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Never hesitate to be more explicit. |
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I stomp on your ideas.
Fair enough. Like I alluded to before, I can be too vague at times. |
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Well firstly, I and noone else for that matter, of any race, has to justify their racial pride to anyone else. Do you have a problem with white pride? And in turn, do you have a problem with Black Pride? I actually pity the fact that you have so much white guilt. White pride isn't about hating other, its merely about NOT constantly putting your own race down, the amount of whiney white prideless people you get saying "Whites are so evil, because of X,Y,Z Blah blah blah. White X/Y/Z is so bad, Black/Asian X/Y/Z is so much better" This isn't to say that you can't appreciate the achievments of other races, nations or cultures, and give credit where credit is due. It is merely about NOT having overwhelming white guilt. |
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So? |
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I stomp on your ideas.
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Disregarding your lack thereof to answering all of my questions, your vague use of terms 'white pride' seems to imply other things than simply the absense of a guilty conscience towards one's race. Thus, I would like to investigate what exactly you mean, and your choice of the term 'pride'. I'll get it out of you by your response to this question: Would a blind man who is ignorant of his racial characteristic of 'whiteness,' be one to have 'white pride? |
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I stomp on your ideas.
ok fair enough i'll go back and answer those questions, and I hope youll also answer mine that you did not answer. |
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@Thatperson Your response is a bit better, albeit still incoherent in some aspects. In any case, with some coherency, I'm now able to fairly critique some of what you've said, or at least manage to do so. Now, to begin: |
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Last edited by Somii; 10-29-2011 at 01:23 AM.
I stomp on your ideas.
It's along the lines of having pride in the achievements of a family member, no it might not be you who has achieved whatever it is, someone may say they are proud of an alcoholic for a long period of abstention, pride is merely observing someone and acknowledging their achivements. |
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It seems that I may be influencing your philosophy, as what usually happens when a person is engaged with a superior reason. Can you see it? |
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I stomp on your ideas.
In order to arrive at the truth, you must first be at least trying to understand the other point of view before you reply. I regret the work I put into this thread. Have fun. |
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I don't see how you are influencing my philosophy. |
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First of all, racism is not merely the distinction of race--it's the recognition of the differences between two or more races and asserting that, because of these differences, one race is superior or inferior to another. Distinction of race is nothing more than an observation, which alone is, by definition, devoid of connotation. Thus, distinction of race cannot be racist. Secondly, I want to lift people of my own race up because people of other races already have members of their own race lifting them up. Normatively speaking we should be proud of everyone, proud of the human race as a whole. Realistically speaking, differences in culture and the overall attitude of people in general prevent this ideology from ever spreading beyond just a relatively small group of people. Does this mean that this way of thinking is wrong? Absolutely not. It simply isn't realistic. Lastly, read what I type more thoroughly or quit assuming. I never said to be proud only of your own race or the members of your own race. I was saying that it's okay to be proud of your race and that you should be. Again, it's possible to be proud of your own race without putting down other races or ignoring their accomplishments. You can be proud of those things too. The purpose of my post was to help dissolve the concept that being proud of your heritage, culture, and race is racist (especially if you are white). |
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I really don't think the average human being is capable of such subtlety of thought. Which is a huge part of my argument. |
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OK this was boring. This race was yellow this race was black, my puppy was ginger and my kitty was white. Who fuching cares? Now the color of your car and your carpet. those things are important/sarcasm. |
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Tall people acting short. |
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To the OP: |
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Like a melting pot as America was where a country went in a few generations from having Black People as slaves to having them head their military and be their President. |
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:< |
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Ok I just had to say something...Everyone has good points in this thread, especially Jeff |
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How is this ironic? I said he was generalizing an entire race because he said "black people say this" "black people are claiming this and that" |
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