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      What do they have to offer?

      Occupy Wall Street?

      The last issue of Montclarion, a student newspaper at Montclair State University,*published an article of Grover Furr, about the Occupy Wall Street movement:

      The Montclarion » Blog Archive » Letter to the Editor

      Yes, rich people always want to be richer and richer. This is unfortunate; no one knows how to stop this, without taking away constructive motivation. What fraction of Bill Gates' fortune is consumed and what fraction is productively invested? My guess is that the first fraction is much less than 10%, and that he is not a rare exception.

      What does Professor Furr have to offer us? Consider a complex machine which works but not perfectly. Anyone can destroy it; no advanced knowledge is usually needed to accomplish this. But one has to be highly knowledgeable in order to repair it, or to design a better replacement. I am thinking about sophisticated engines, airplanes, TV sets, X ray scanners, computers, airconditioners, oil refineries, etc.

      The same is true for an economic system. No system is perfect; but some are more efficient than others. Trying to destroy US capitalism *without offering something better is likely to create a lot of misery. I am thinking about what Lenin and Stalin did, as decribed in my two short books. These books are now freely available online; the links are at:

      Diary of a former Polish communist; two free books on-line

      Note that even now, one hundred years after the Soviet revolution, standards of living in Russia are much lower than in the US, and in other western countries.

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      http://csam.montclair.edu/~kowalski/life/intro.html It is a testimony based on a diary kept between 1946 and 2004 (in the USSR, Poland, France and the USA).
      The more people know about proletarian dictatorship the less likely will we experience is. Please share the link with those who might be interested, especially with young people, and with potential reviewers.

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      I'd like to be rich!

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      Your post is confusing me, are you saying that Occupy Wallstreet is communist?

      Because its not. Not anymore than our democratic republic is democratic.

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      No, I am not saying this. Some organizers might be communists, others might prefer to reform capitalism, a Mensheviks wanted in 1917. And we know what happened to Mensheviks, after the Bolshevik revolution.

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      Ludwik Kowalski, author of a free ON-LINE book entitled “Diary of a Former Communist: Thoughts, Feelings, Reality.”
      http://csam.montclair.edu/~kowalski/life/intro.html It is a testimony based on a diary kept between 1946 and 2004 (in the USSR, Poland, France and the USA).
      The more people know about proletarian dictatorship the less likely will we experience is. Please share the link with those who might be interested, especially with young people, and with potential reviewers.

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      Sorry not to get off topic but why don't you set a hyperlink to your Wikipedia page in your signature so that way you do not have to keep typing (see wikipedia) after every post you make. (Just a suggestion)

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      Quote Originally Posted by kowalskil View Post
      Occupy Wall Street?

      The last issue of Montclarion, a student newspaper at Montclair State University,*published an article of Grover Furr, about the Occupy Wall Street movement:

      The Montclarion » Blog Archive » Letter to the Editor

      Yes, rich people always want to be richer and richer. This is unfortunate; no one knows how to stop this, without taking away constructive motivation. What fraction of Bill Gates' fortune is consumed and what fraction is productively invested? My guess is that the first fraction is much less than 10%, and that he is not a rare exception.

      What does Professor Furr have to offer us? Consider a complex machine which works but not perfectly. Anyone can destroy it; no advanced knowledge is usually needed to accomplish this. But one has to be highly knowledgeable in order to repair it, or to design a better replacement. I am thinking about sophisticated engines, airplanes, TV sets, X ray scanners, computers, airconditioners, oil refineries, etc.

      The same is true for an economic system. No system is perfect; but some are more efficient than others. Trying to destroy US capitalism *without offering something better is likely to create a lot of misery. I am thinking about what Lenin and Stalin did, as decribed in my two short books. These books are now freely available online; the links are at:

      Diary of a former Polish communist; two free books on-line

      Note that even now, one hundred years after the Soviet revolution, standards of living in Russia are much lower than in the US, and in other western countries.

      Ludwik Kowalski (see Wikipedia)
      We are not attempting to destroy Capitalism; We are attempting to destroy Corporatism
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      ITT In America: The only alternative to capitalism is communism.

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