Thread: How could you change the world?

I was thinking about this in the car today....

I have only a couple of questions:
First, we have successfully changed the world, or at least large parts of some societies by using things like ad campaigns, whether they be for quitting smoking or to buy Coke.
To take the cigarette example, we use shock images and descriptions of how smokers harm others, not just themselves. This creates, as a by product, maybe intentionally, a societal norm of hatred of smokers, although more commonly disgust.

So, my question is first, why can that not be done for something positive? Like, say, changing the way we fundamentally think about others? Why can that tactic not create a culture of love for one another? An appreciation of the Universe and a desire to explore?

Why is it so much easier, so much that it's pretty much a default, to use negativity?

I think it could be done, but it would have to be done very specifically and covertly.

I'm going to offer up an unconventional method for changing the world.

The most momentous occasion on the planet, I believe, was when a replicating entity (some form of RNA possibly) formed under just the right circumstances, on Earth, Mars, or wherever it was seeded first. Not only did it replicate itself, but what it created also replicated, ad infinitum.

When changing the world, we talk about a particular meme or cultural idea replicating in people's minds and therefore changing their behavior. What would be the fastest, most efficient way to change people's behavior? First we have to look at how you can change one person. There's a subtle difference between changing a person's life and changing the person himself. Look at Beverly Hillbillies (gosh I'm getting old), sure their lives were changed after finding that oil but they still held on to those backwater charms. To fundamentally change a person takes more than money or an average idea.

Some of you may have been lucky enough to know someone who could change people. I knew two in college, and I daresay I was one for a short couple of weeks before a brief personal matter brought me crashing down.

What are their behaviors like? They're charming, extremely quick-witted, and most overlooked but most important in my belief is their body language. I have visited both extremes of the social spectrum, awkward nerd in high school and fairly buff, personable guy junior year in college. Let's say both versions of me were to approach a clerk at a gas station. There's no doubt whatsoever in my mind that one version's approach wouldn't get a second thought and the other version's approach may produce a pronounced reaction in the clerk, such as him tossing a witty comment or observation my way. This is a change in the clerk's behavior, signaling that just through body language alone I was able to trigger a reaction in his brain.

Sure a lot of people can get that to happen, but by presence alone? That takes some social ability. At what point are people like that able to change others around them? There isn't a certain point, but their ability can be graded based on the three criteria I mentioned before: charm, quickness of wit, and body language (I know there are more and if anyone wants to mention them feel free). A person that changes other people better than others is better at coming up with the right thing to say at the right time, has greatly reduced decision time for processing thought into spoken word (this is important; I guess you'll have to trust me), and can exude more of a presence through his body language.

What if we took charm, quick-wit, and body language to their extremes? What if there were a correct thing to say for every situation that would get the most positive, pronounced response from an audience? What if the person changer said it out loud without even thinking it at first, and somehow subconsciously internalized the decision to say it? What if there were a perfect way to approach that gas station clerk with the person changer's body language? Could a person actually train himself/herself to do this, and how fast would that man/woman radiate change in others?

I have had really fun dreams where everyone's body language syncs up. It's my hope to see something like this in the waking world.

TL;DR: We need to study people who are able to change others positively through their social ability, then accelerate the process by turning one of them into someone that can produce other people changers.

1 word for changing the whole world UNIFICATION

This will happen in 2 ways

1 The world is realizing what harm it does to its planet because its almost about to dye and abolishes the economic system to work together on a solution to escape or repair.
2 The world gets attacked by another civilization that forces everyone to work together witch also abolishes the economic system.

The people in high places are scared of change!! because then they lose control over the situation they either have to see what they are doing is wrong or be forced to change!!

No im not small minded but either way is open debate witch will happen first!!

Originally Posted by TosTurnSyndrome

1 word for changing the whole world UNIFICATION

I agree with this sentiment.

Sharing a deeper understanding of the world, as it is, will help us change how we relate to the world.

I am, as yet, only a weak lucid dreamer. But I am particularly interested in the possibility of the reality of shared lucid dreaming, and the implication that, if we are all connected, across the world, and across time, we have a much greater chance of coming together as one unified humanity, and this will enable us to create the enormous revolutionary changes that are required to ensure not only our sustainable survival but our emergent resilience, and eventual enlightenment.

I believe we are on this path already, but the question is, are we moving fast enough.

Originally Posted by dlaliberte

I agree with this sentiment.

Sharing a deeper understanding of the world, as it is, will help us change how we relate to the world.

I am, as yet, only a weak lucid dreamer. But I am particularly interested in the possibility of the reality of shared lucid dreaming, and the implication that, if we are all connected, across the world, and across time, we have a much greater chance of coming together as one unified humanity, and this will enable us to create the enormous revolutionary changes that are required to ensure not only our sustainable survival but our emergent resilience, and eventual enlightenment.

I believe we are on this path already, but the question is, are we moving fast enough.

dlaliberte

Thank You for the "Like". I enjoyed what you wrote in your Biography, in your profile. It is also your very first post, here on Dreamviews, Here it is:

Biography:

"I am, as yet, only a weak lucid dreamer.

But

I am particularly interested in the possibility of the reality of shared lucid dreaming, and the implication that, if we are all connected, across the world, and across time, we have a much greater chance of coming together as one unified humanity, and this will enable us to create the enormous revolutionary changes that are required to ensure not only our sustainable survival but our emergent resilience, and eventual enlightenment.

*I believe we are on this path already, but the question is, are we moving fast enough.

Sharing a deeper understanding of the world, as it is, will help us change how we relate to the world."

Idlaliberte, I am "friending" you.

Originally Posted by havago

dlaliberte

Thank You for the "Like". I enjoyed what you wrote in your Biography, in your profile. It is also your very first post, here on Dreamviews, [...]

Idlaliberte, I am "friending" you.

Thanks for noticing me, havago. I am quite enthused about this community, and looking forward to great things. However, it appears I've got a lot of catching up to do.

I was looking for the right place to post an idea, but I might as well post here, since it is about how to increase the number of shared lucid dreamers, and thus enable this vision that, together, we can change the world.

So here it is: What would happen if those who can already engage in shared dreaming try to collaborate with the goal of bringing in more people? Activities might focus on one person at a time, if there is a benefit in SD-bombing, so to speak. This might also focus on assisting individuals to enter lucid dreaming more easily, and then guiding them become aware of all the shared dreamers who are trying to help. Maybe smaller teams of SDers with complementary abilities could work more effectively than a large mob. As more SDers awaken (is this a higher level awareness than lucid dreaming?) the whole effort can escalate to awaken even more SDers. Organizational complexities will surely ensue.

Maybe such a project is already underway?!? I volunteer to be so assisted.

How many lucid dreamers and shared dreamers do you suppose there are among the 7 billion people on earth now? How about the many many more entities throughout our galaxy, and the entire universe?