Thread: Discussion of Homosexuality Acceptance (Split)

Originally Posted by Shamanite

I'm not saying we should be hateful, but not to treat it as a positive alternative to heterosexuality. It should be treated as a mental illness.

I'm at a loss of words of how angry and sad this comment makes me. There's a very good reason LGBT people are depressed and retreat to their own (at times harmful) cultures; they feel hated by society.

Homosexuality is not an illness. It can indeed be defined as abnormal, but that doesn't mean society has to suppress it. It is simply a matter of preference. Some people prefer different foods, different colours, different entertainment, left, right, men or women.


I don't feel terribly interested in engaging in this topic of discussion, but I will say one thing and also pose a question.

First off, a lot of your sources are old studies, dating back as far as the forties. During these times, society rejected LGBT people completely, which dramatically will skew any analysis on whether these people interact with society and other people in a healthy way. If the vast majority of people hate you because of a single character trait, and some societies would even punish you (in some cases with death) for having said trait, then you are not going to develop into a healthy member of society.

For my question: I'm a bisexual. More accurately I would be pansexual, but those two terms have pretty much become interchangeable. Where do I fit into your image of societal degenerates who must be cured?

Originally Posted by Marvo

For my question: I'm a bisexual. More accurately I would be pansexual, but those two terms have pretty much become interchangeable. Where do I fit into your image of societal degenerates who must be cured?

There is apparently a wide range of opinions being expressed in this thread. Just to be clear and to preempt any misapprehensions people might have, I personally don't consider LGBT to be a mental illness (except in cases where it is, but those are the minority). So don't think that just because I'm on "that side" of this discussion, that I believe all the stupid stuff that other people have said.

And since we're sharing...I'm also bisexual. Yay! I actually think that there are lots of bisexual people, but a lot of them just don't talk about it. And why should they? This gets me fired up on another issue, which is the LGBT lobby telling their "members" that they must "come out" for solidarity and whatnot. Bullshit. Only certain people in my life deserve to know. And don't even get me started on pride parades...

Originally Posted by cmind

There is apparently a wide range of opinions being expressed in this thread. Just to be clear and to preempt any misapprehensions people might have, I personally don't consider LGBT to be a mental illness (except in cases where it is, but those are the minority). So don't think that just because I'm on "that side" of this discussion, that I believe all the stupid stuff that other people have said.

And since we're sharing...I'm also bisexual. Yay! I actually think that there are lots of bisexual people, but a lot of them just don't talk about it. And why should they? This gets me fired up on another issue, which is the LGBT lobby telling their "members" that they must "come out" for solidarity and whatnot. Bullshit. Only certain people in my life deserve to know. And don't even get me started on pride parades...

I mostly agree. I have told a few people about my sexuality, mostly because eventually it would come up. That's kind of a privilege as a bisexual though. Gay people are kind of forced to tell people, since lying all the time just sucks. People keep asking 'do you have a girlfriend?', it just puts a certain pressure on a person.

Originally Posted by Marvo

People keep asking 'do you have a girlfriend?', it just puts a certain pressure on a person.

I can't really relate to that. People rarely ask me if I have a girlfriend, and I just say no (because I don't). It's not unusual for a guy to be single in this day and age. I don't see how gay guys could be feeling pressure from that.

Originally Posted by cmind

I can't really relate to that. People rarely ask me if I have a girlfriend, and I just say no (because I don't). It's not unusual for a guy to be single in this day and age. I don't see how gay guys could be feeling pressure from that.

That's because you aren't gay