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UM, just read about Isreal's treatment of Palistinians. I already said I don't feel like explaining it to you. E
That's a very convenient response.

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Wow. You don't know anything about what happened to the deficit under Clinton and under Bush II, do you? Nice legacy, huge debt to China.
I didn't say they are always successful with it. However, I did say that Clinton was the type of politician who was much more concerned about immediate power and not so much about legacy. You are still not reading my posts very carefully.

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I disagree with that. I think it is all for short-term gain. What long-term are you talking about? History? That's not going to keep them in power now, which is what they are concerned about.
Nobody in office right now wants a major terrorist attack to happen on the U.S. and to go down in history as somebody who could have prevented it but didn't. Legacy does matter to politicians, some more than others. If Bush were concerned much more about immediate popularity than legacy, we would be out of Iraq already.

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1. No, they are not conservative in the traditional sense, more in the fascist sense. 2. That is pretty fucking scary. So who do you think we should invade next? Do you think China will keep loaning us money? Should we start drafting to make up for the declining enlistment?
1. They are conservative in the sense that the people who are conservative in the traditional sense on pretty much everything are their supporters. 2. I have already covered this. Do you remember what I said about bringing the world together to liberate the world?

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I'm surprised that you think anyone could be a war criminal in Vietnam; weren't you in favor of containment?
So because I thing the war was necessary, that means I support war crimes? I don't get get your reasoning there.

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I think Kerry and Bush were in league to keep Bush in power.