Thread: Voting McCain?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GEtZlR3zp4c

The same guy has a couple more movies of the same idea.

My chemistry teacher is voting for McCain... he told me "anyone who can serve 5 years in a Vietnam prison camp gets my vote! I don't even care what his policies are..."

I just was like... seriously...

Your chemistry teacher is a simpleton.

In his defense who knows how the editing right there worked out.

Which tax reforms is he talking about and when? etc...

Meanwhile I don't like him anyway.

Mccains foreign policy is identical to George Bush.

But it might not be a bad thing for his election. He announced he promised to talk to Castro, Iran's leader, and Kim Jon-il.

He also said he promised to restore basic democratic rights to Cuba. I think Cubans will go for this.

I personally think Obama has better ideals than McCain, but McCain is alot more decisive than Obama, and he is a hard ass. Unfortunatly McCain is a neo-con, which equals more imperial bullshit.

Hopefully Obama can show he has bigger balls by establishing communication with non democratic nations in the world.

McCain is really a democrat at heart.

Originally Posted by Half/Dreaming

McCain is really a democrat at heart.

How?..

Originally Posted by wasup

he told me "anyone who can serve 5 years in a Vietnam prison camp gets my vote! I don't even care what his policies are...

You should point out to your teacher that anyone can spend 5 years in a prison camp. All they have to do is get caught.

Not to mention, that sort of experience is very likely to mess up your world view, if not your mental health in general. If anything, I consider it a big, big minus.

Originally Posted by skysaw

You should point out to your teacher that anyone can spend 5 years in a prison camp. All they have to do is get caught.

I actually did... I said "well in that case why don't we just get some random person who spent 5 years in a prison camp..." He didn't respond he just looked at me like it was a different thing.

The right-wing jackasses who call themselves conservatives will prevent McCain from really highlighting his dignified and bipartisan style of politics. They will turn him into a right wing parody of himself, and will ultimately cost him the election.

Originally Posted by Captain Sleepalot

They will turn him into a right wing parody of himself, and will ultimately cost him the election.

McCain has the election made. He is going to be up against Obama, and Obama is already over. Obama has way too much negative baggage, and it is not going away. The Ayers and Wright controversies alone make it 100% impossible for Obama to win the election, and I predict that there is more coming. The Republicans saved up both of those stories for a while and then publicized them at strategic times. I think there is a good possibility that they have more.

I don't understand why anyone would want 4 more years of bush...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kDmasopEXao

Obama is the man...

If I were running for presidency my slogan would be.

Shut the fuck up unless you have something important to say.

As far as prison camp goes I'd say it's a plus, a big plus, because though he's probably suffered damage (who hasn't?) events like those make people into very strong individuals.

And UM, Obama is... murdering right now. I don't know what you're talking about with extra baggage either. Like... his preacher? John McCain's spirital leader has said way more or at least equally fucked up things. His middle name? What baggage?

Originally Posted by Sandform

If I were running for presidency my slogan would be.

Shut the fuck up unless you have something important to say.

Got my vote. lol, I was for McCain but I also understood that Obama is an extremely good speaker and has a fair chance running with him. Obama won, so obviously he proved it.

Originally Posted by Universal Mind

McCain has the election made. He is going to be up against Obama, and Obama is already over. Obama has way too much negative baggage, and it is not going away. The Ayers and Wright controversies alone make it 100% impossible for Obama to win the election, and I predict that there is more coming. The Republicans saved up both of those stories for a while and then publicized them at strategic times. I think there is a good possibility that they have more.

Whatever side you're on, it's crazy to assume it's over at this point. I think Obama has a fair chance against McCain, but it's really going to hinge heavily on who the two of them have in mind for running-mates, and if any new bad news appears for either. McCain can certainly hurt himself at this point.

Originally Posted by Universal Mind

McCain has the election made. He is going to be up against Obama, and Obama is already over. Obama has way too much negative baggage, and it is not going away. The Ayers and Wright controversies alone make it 100% impossible for Obama to win the election, and I predict that there is more coming. The Republicans saved up both of those stories for a while and then publicized them at strategic times. I think there is a good possibility that they have more.

You got to be kidding me. The run for U.S president practically restarts after the primaries.

Not to mention some poll said more people are uneasy with McCain's relationship with Bush than Obama's relationship with Wright.

Sorry, but McCain is going to lose badly. Well, all Obama needs to say is Bush and McCain, which puts McCain in a bad position. He needs support from conseratives, that see McCain as a maverick. However, he will lose the independents, not only that but Bushes popular ratings are very low.

So, all we will hear is Bush and McCain from Obama, which in reality will stop most people voting for McCain or Bush 2. See, if Hillary couldn't stop Obama during his worst hour, then McCain won't.

There is a major controversy going on between Clinton and Obama supporters, and it has gotten ugly. I have seen the polls, I have heard and read the opinions, and I have seen the flaming going on between the two candidates.

The party is spilt down the middle, but at the end of the day they would vote Obama not McCain. If it really gets that bad, then Obama can always make Clinton VP, which it won't.

My point was that doing so put an unfixable dent in his campaign and that he cannot win the election, especially when coupled with the Ayers controversy. You have not addressed the Ayers controversy, by the way. Does it concern you at all?

Another guilt by association argument. This is easily disproven, like Obama is a muslim story.

Yes, he is cooking defeat for himself, just like Ron Paul was when you were insisting that he was going to be the Republican nominee. You are going to come back here in November and admit that Barack got his ass whipped in the election, aren't you?

Ron Paul, proberly would do as good as Bush if he was running, which would be as good as McCain. The Wright scandal was good for Obama, as after it his lead with Blacks went from 50% to 96%, and it only caused Obama minimal damage.

America is not that dumb to vote in Bush 2.

P.S. Obama is battle tested, McCain is not.

How is Obama battle tested?

He absolutley cannot be the commander in chief of the armed forces. He would cripple them.

Originally Posted by Sagea

How is Obama battle tested?

He absolutley cannot be the commander in chief of the armed forces. He would cripple them.

Right, because we all know that the billions spent on the war are going primarily to our troops on the ground, and not into the coffers of defense contractors.

Originally Posted by Captain Sleepalot

Right, because we all know that the billions spent on the war are going primarily to our troops on the ground, and not into the coffers of defense contractors.

Cause you know that for a fact. You have the defense spending all laid out in front of ya huh.

And you do know there's a reason we hire contractors right...?

Originally Posted by wendylove

Sorry, but McCain is going to lose badly.

You have officially been quoted. Come back to this thread in November so we can have a recap. When it comes down to it, this country is not going to put a terrorist buddy and "God damn America!" church goer who disrespects religious gun owners in the White House. It is not going to happen.

Ron Paul does not have a chance either, just like he did not have a chance in the primaries. Watch and see for yourself.

Remember: Recap in November.

Originally Posted by Universal Mind

You have officially been quoted. Come back to this thread in November so we can have a recap. When it comes down to it, this country is not going to put a terrorist buddy and "God damn America!" church goer who disrespects religious gun owners in the White House. It is not going to happen.

Ron Paul does not have a chance either, just like he did not have a chance in the primaries. Watch and see for yourself.

Remember: Recap in November.

First off Obama is winning the election, and has more voters than McCain.

Second, McCains economic, and foreign policy SUCK. McCain is an imitation of Bush, and is a neo-con. He is old, and why is it better to be in a prison camp for 5 years? What about the people who didn't get their asses in a prison?

Remember: Recap in November.

I would just like to state that Reverend Wright is not "anti-America." He is "anti-current-American-Administration-who-are-controlling-her(America's)-policies."

He used the phrase "God Damn America" because it was a catchy contrast to "God Bless America," illustrating the point that killing innocent people (as the American Administration is doing, in this war) is an damnable offense, under religious doctrine.

It does not mean "I hate America (the country)," or "I am against America (the country)," as so many try to imply.

Sure he's extremist, in his opinions, but part of Obama's "problem" with him is that people are viewing him as something he's not proven to be.

Originally Posted by Oneironaut

He used the phrase "God Damn America" because it was a catchy contrast to "God Bless America," illustrating the point that killing innocent people (as the American Administration is doing, in this war) is an damnable offense, under religious doctrine.

Originally Posted by Sagea

I've got one, too, and it means just as little as yours.

If you have something to say - say it. I'm not defending him. I'm stating the obvious.