Thread: What combination creates the most discriminated person?

Originally Posted by Oneironaut

I don't really think the South Park sketch made your point very well. Not that you didn't have one. I just don't think it did.

But, yes, there is definitely a stigma that still lingers, as far as racism is concerned - and rightfully so. If racism was completely erradicated, it would be different. Many people like to ignore that racism still exists, and just want the black community to just "forget about it." We (the nation) aren't at the point to where people can just say anything that want to a black person and not be suspected of being a white supremist. It would be great if it were like that, but it's not. Fundamentally, people have to understand that that is a very real truth to why derogatory words to blacks are still buzzwords.

The difference between the concepts of a white person calling a black person a nigger and a black person calling a white person a cracker is that "nigger" is the equivalent of calling a person a worthless piece of shit. It is a word that carries with it connotations that you come from a line of thinking that promotes the hanging of blacks. That black people are, litterally, less than nothing. You can call someone a cock sucker, motherfucker, pansy, pussy, whatever, but none of those words carry with it the power that the word "nigger" does.

"Cracker", on the other hand, is labelling someone as a supremist - basically comparing them to the type of people that did the whip-cracking. You're calling them egotistical. You're calling them ethnocentric. You're calling them anti-semetic, but the word doesn't even come close to rivalling the word "nigger", in context.

Not every black person would have a problem with you saying you're a proud white man. Of course, there are many who would take the statement with a bit of , and I 'know it's not you're fault that making such a declaration might encite those kinds of of assumptions about you, but that's how it is. Imagine watching your mother go through an extremely abusive relationship.

You stuck with it and watched it for years, and she got the shit beat out of her. Finally, she decided to let that drunkard man go, after he'd nearly killed her. Then, later on down the road, she begins dating a friend of his. You see many parallels between the two men, every single day. Even if the man is not the violent monster that his friend was, you'd be a machine to not be somewhat on guard, for your mother's sake, whenever you see those parallels.

As far as just saying the word "black," it has nothing to do with the word, it's how you say it, and the context in which it's said. Many people use the word in a derogatory tone, even when they don't seem to realize that they are consciously doing it. Again, there is a stigma, sure. Not all of the protest is completely rational, but very little of it is without reason.

/rant (That was really to both sandform and half/dreaming, actually. I know sandform did say he understood the nigger thing, but I just thought I'd clarify, for anyone that didn't.

You and I have had this conversation before, and you used this same argument. And yes, its understandable.

Correct. Calling somebody a nigger is like calling them a lesser lifeform; the lowest form of life. So by your definition of the word, a white person could be a nigger? A worthless piece of shit?

You seem to think "cracker" isn't that bad. I must disagree. To me, a cracker is a pompous asswhipe who thinks he is superior because of the color of his skin. It brings up a chapter of our past in which we really did think we were better than the "monkeys" who worked on our farms. To a person such as myself who doesn't think color means shit, its like calling me a racist. So, to sum it up;

Nigger=shitbag
Cracker=racist

They both sound pretty shitty to me, but by your definition, the N word doesn't just pertain to a single race. Cracker does.

To be honest, I really don't care about being called a cracker, and I don't think anyone should get upset about the N word. I kinda just wanted to flip it around on you O.